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By Joshua Gross

Kashmir is a void in U.S. foreign policy, all the more noticeable for its absence in our diplomats' discourse. Ashley Tellis, a former political adviser in the U.S. Embassy in New Delhi, told journalist Steve Coll earlier this year that the best advice for the Obama administration was to "keep hands off." The conventional wisdom holds that prospects for peace are too fragile for a ham-fisted American mediation that pushes India and Pakistan too hard, too fast. In a region where capitulating to the Americans is political suicide, our good intentions would surely backfire.

However, the "hands off" approach ensures the prolongation of a perilous status quo. A perpetually unstable South Asia flooded with jihadi groups, with two combustible nuclear powers, undermines U.S. national security. In the interim, American troops are caught in the web of a conflict dynamic that extends far beyond the borders of Afghanistan. The Obama Administration must finalize the next steps for America's strategy in Afghanistan with a regional perspective. In the quest to stabilize Afghanistan, breaking the diplomatic impasse over Kashmir is a necessity, not a luxury.

Twenty-four of Pakistan's 26 military divisions remain idling on the Indian border, waiting and watching. They refuse to redeploy to the extremist heartland in the west, even as the country is wracked by brazen acts of terrorism. Although bilateral negotiations have identified shared interests in a settlement on Kashmir, the much-trumpeted backchannel between the two governments remains dormant. History and the high-stakes of domestic politics get in the way of a just and sustainable settlement.

Foreign policy experts are divided over the utility of U.S. mediation. Both Indians and Pakistanis distrust American the motivation behind U.S. involvement. Moderate Pakistanis blame the U.S. for opening the floodgates of extremism through their support of the Afghan mujahideen's jihad against the Soviets. Furthermore, U.S. support of India's nuclear program, despite their flouting of the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty, reinforced the perception of a double standard that unfairly favored India. Indians -- proud of their ancient civilization and superpower status -- have no desire to kowtow to an American babysitter. Indian analysts argue that a U.S. envoy could not offer Pakistan a better deal than those already offered by Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh. In an October 29 interview, Indian Foreign Minister S.M. Krishna bristled at the notion that the United States would persuade India to restart talks with Pakistan. "India is an independent country, we take our own decisions...We are guided by ourselves and not by others," he said.

U.S. policy remains timid. The Indian government successfully lobbied the Obama Administration to have Special Representative Holbrooke's overt responsibilities limited to AfPak. Holbrooke has allegedly been pressured to avoid using the "K-word": Kashmir. Indian and Pakistani journalists are adept at baiting high-level U.S. officials into showing their cards on Kashmir, which only encourages the U.S. officials to calcify their poker faces. When pressed this summer, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton told an Indian interviewer, "[O]ur role is not to be involved..." Her insistence last week that the United States will not attempt to pilot a solution signals that Kashmir remains a low priority in Washington.

Now it is time for President Obama to demonstrate genuine faith in diplomacy through a tangible turnaround on Kashmir. The presence of Holbrooke in the region can dramatically enhance the efficacy of U.S. statecraft. In another promising development, Kashmiri separatist leader Mirwaiz Umar Farooq has requested U.S. mediation.

President Obama should pave the way toward formal negotiations through close consultations with Prime Minister Singh. The Prime Minister's upcoming visit to Washington will provide Obama with an ideal opportunity to propose a stronger U.S.-India relationship and greater support for more visible Indian leadership in international organizations like the G20 in exchange for reactivating negotiations with Pakistan. A public track would explore water resource management, an attenuation of the Indian occupation, and the expansion of trade and transportation linkages. Concurrently, a reopened backchannel would negotiate the intractable issues: establishing the borders and the final status of Kashmir; a referendum of the Kashmiri people on independence; counter terrorism cooperation to neutralize Lashkar-e-Taiba and Jaish-e-Mohammed; and a mutual troop drawdown along the Line of Control that separates the two armies. Throughout this process the United States should not be in the spotlight, but it should have a seat at the table.

Past back channel negotiations have failed when negotiators did not prepare their domestic constituencies for the painful compromises ahead. Political elites must manage expectations in both countries. The U.S. could further bolster the process by employing a routine framework that keeps the parties at the table, especially when terrorists seek to disrupt reconciliation with more 11/26-style attacks.

Even if American insistence on formalized negotiations is deemed imprudent, a change in tone is needed. Holbrooke should be liberated from his narrow mandate. Such a move would signal the Obama administration's preference for movement on Kashmir.

Secretary of State Clinton's trip to the region this week was yet another example of a missed opportunity to propose a more ambitious policy. Clinton rebuffed Prime Minister Syed Yusuf Raza Gilani's request for U.S. mediation on October 28, a rare demonstration of Pakistani political will. Hopefully, Pakistan will continue to coax a U.S. about-face.

In his attempt to defuse the 1999 Kargil crisis -- the last time Pakistan and India were eyeball-to-eyeball with their fingers on the nuclear button -- President Clinton talked down then-Pakistani Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif by promising to "take a personal interest in the Kashmir dispute." Now is the time for another visionary U.S. leader to live up to that oft-broken promise.

http://afpak.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2009/11/06/the_forgotten_front
 
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Why do we need a US foreign policy in resolving something between the two neighbors? This is a matter of concern to India and Pakistan and both sides have to step up and discuss things out.
 
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Why do we need a US foreign policy in resolving something between the two neighbors? This is a matter of concern to India and Pakistan and both sides have to step up and discuss things out.

I think that this is the most appropriate thing that should be done to resolve this bone of contention between two countries but I also prefer a vital role to be played by UN in this regard in case both do not reach to a solution. But UN in fact has nothing to offer us as well.

KIT Over n Out
 
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Any solution on Kashmir resulting out of a US mediated peace process would be rejected by the population of both sides. Especially if the solution is seen as bowing to the super power to accept something that is "against national interest".

Secondly, we might have good relations with the US, but we're sane enough to understand that no US foreign policy decision can be termed as a "good deed".
 
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The US would not be 'making a decision' on the dispute, the argument is that the US can facilitate dialog, since the two sides are no talking, by using its influence, not just on resolution of the disputes, but demilitarization etc.

And all the talk about 'bilateral issue and what not' Pakistan and India have shown remarkable ineptness at showing any tangible progress through 'bilateral dialogue'.

We keep going to international arbiters to have issues under the IWT resolved for example.
 
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The US would not be 'making a decision' on the dispute, the argument is that the US can facilitate dialog, since the two sides are no talking, by using its influence, not just on resolution of the disputes, but demilitarization etc.

Perhaps, the the point still stands that neither Pakistanis nor Indians would accept a solution -especially if the solution is against the current position of either parties - if there is even a semblance of US involvement.

And all the talk about 'bilateral issue and what not' Pakistan and India have shown remarkable ineptness at showing any tangible progress through 'bilateral dialogue'.

Agreed. Neither side is willing to compromise because of domestic considerations. We need visionaries on both sides to solve the dispute bilaterally. Unfortunately they are in short supply in both nations.
 
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"Pakistan and India have shown remarkable ineptness at showing any tangible progress through 'bilateral dialogue'."

How about if we privately mediate an agreement that's mutually dissatisfying to both countries and then publically threaten to destroy both of you should you not sign an accord and then sell it to your respective constituencies?:eek:

Think you could sell that?

Seems easy,

"We either sign this thing and get it ratified or the fcukin' yanks will go ballistic on both of us. Azzholes..".

Think about it- an agreement signed to everybody's dissatisfaction and all blamable upon the U.S.? Isn't that what a hyperpower does? Ultimate fall-guy?

What could be better?

Just a thought to maybe help matters out...:azn:

Thanks.:usflag:
 
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While Indian soldiers are still dying because these Pakistanis are unwilling to stop the flow of Jehadis across the LOC? No thanks.

Sentence or deport Hafiz Saeed and half a dozen other Jehadist leaders, and then we'll have some basis for mutual trust and dialogue. Until then, India has no reason to trust a single word that Pakistan's leaders say.
 
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While Indian soldiers are still dying because these Pakistanis are unwilling to stop the flow of Jehadis across the LOC? No thanks.
Oh is that why Chidambaram said that 'Violence in Kashmir was at its lowest level', infiltration across the LoC remains at extremely low levels and guns at the LoC largely silent and India withdrew 15,000 troops?

The problem is that some Indians just cannot credit Pakistan for the steps it has taken to help reduce violence in Kashmir - steps that were initiated under Musharraf (and I include the GoI amongst those who perpetuate the idea that Pakistan has done nothing, and they don't have the excuse of being uninformed) - and that the 'miraculous fence' set up by the IA has accomplished all of this.

BTW, the US might be interested in that 'miraculous fence' on their Southern Border.
Sentence or deport Hafiz Saeed and half a dozen other Jehadist leaders, and then we'll have some basis for mutual trust and dialogue. Until then, India has no reason to trust a single word that Pakistan's leaders say.
The 'half a dozen' alleged terrorists are being tried in Pakistani courts, and when India can provide evidence similar to that provided against the half dozen others, Pakistan can arrest HS as well.

I think deportation is out of the question for now. Hopefully the 'half a dozen others' will be found guilty and sentenced accordingly.
 
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S-2 what is wrong with you, you must be smoking something good there.
You are actually asking them to thik outside the little mind boxes they have got into.
Seriously shame on you for making such a suggestion.:disagree:

Both sides are so stuck in their respective ruts that not even the bright young minds :eek: here can see outside that rut.

Why not just hand Kashmir straight back to the Kashmirians and have the UN class it as a UN protectorate and helped back to the world of reality by any country besides India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, SL, US, Russia and China.

Well now that is a thought well out of the box.

As I have said before on several ocation it is time people here moved forward and kept history as history and not a thing of the present and future.
Ah but that requires thought and doing something. Sorry forgot you don't know how to do that yet.



"Pakistan and India have shown remarkable ineptness at showing any tangible progress through 'bilateral dialogue'."

How about if we privately mediate an agreement that's mutually dissatisfying to both countries and then publically threaten to destroy both of you should you not sign an accord and then sell it to your respective constituencies?:eek:

Think you could sell that?

Seems easy,

"We either sign this thing and get it ratified or the fcukin' yanks will go ballistic on both of us. Azzholes..".

Think about it- an agreement signed to everybody's dissatisfaction and all blamable upon the U.S.? Isn't that what a hyperpower does? Ultimate fall-guy?

What could be better?

Just a thought to maybe help matters out...:azn:

Thanks.:usflag:
 
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^That's not called thinking out of the box. Its called shooting yourself in the foot.

If you think that India is going to simply hand over a chunk of its territory to the blue helmets then you must really be naive.
 
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If you think that India is going to simply hand over a chunk of its territory to the blue helmets then you must really be naive.

The UN, and most of the international community, considers it disputed territory (and so did India when it accepted multiple UNSC resolutions on the issue), not Indian territory, so you would not be handing over 'Indian territory'.
 
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Listen, nobody is interested in your legalese.

The fact is that Indian maps show it as a part of India, and that ain't going to change in a hurry unless someone forces us to do it.
 
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Listen, nobody is interested in your legalese.

The fact is that Indian maps show it as a part of India, and that ain't going to change in a hurry unless someone forces us to do it.

If Indian maps and the Indian constitution show California as part of India will that count as well ... :pop:
 
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The best that India will be willing to offer, is that the 3-4 districts that make up the Kashmir valley, be given some sort of autonomous self-government with sovereignty over internal issues. Something like Bhutan, but without an independent foreign policy.

But all that is only going to happen once the Pakistan-sponsored militancy ends well and truly, and the top terrorists are brought to justice.
 
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