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And here is a photo of the night club where that happened... Such a wonderful place but for those sub- humans there isn't a day off. What kind of a miserable person you should be to kill a bunch of innocent people celebrating and enjoying life...

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the victims from other nationalities so far are:

* 8 Saudi Arabian
* 1 Palestinian
* 2 Tunisians
* 1 Jordanian
* 1 Iraqi
This is why I don't think Gulf Arabs should travel to Turkey for tourism anymore.

Turkey has gone downhill since the advent of the Arab Spring.
 
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It's too risky to visit Turkey nowadays.

You should wait until 2018 or 2019. Things should get better by then -- assuming ISIS is completely defeated in Iraq and Syria, that is.

Heck, its too risky to visit any random place nowadays. I even purchased my Turkish jersey a while ago in case

of any surprise visit to Turkey. Beşiktaş above all.

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You can call me a bigot, you can call me an islamophobe, you can call me a racist, you can call me whatever you want, i dont care, but i will tell u one thing - until islam has a massive reformation these attacks will not only continue, but will get worse and worse. Anyone who says this has nothing to do with islam is either an islamic apologist, or is totally and absolutely DUMB.
 
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You can call me a bigot, you can call me an islamophobe, you can call me a racist, you can call me whatever you want, i dont care, but i will tell u one thing - until islam has a massive reformation these attacks will not only continue, but will get worse and worse. Anyone who says this has nothing to do with islam is either an islamic apologist, or is totally and absolutely DUMB.
Why doesn't Turkey take the initiative to reform Islam, by the way?

Why does the AKP insist on following the Egyptian-based Muslim Brotherhood ideology instead of forming its own interpretation/version of Islam?

In my opinion, Turkey should create a Turkish version of Islam that's compatible with democracy and secularism. Then, it should try to export its model to the rest of the region.

Unfortunately, that's not what Turkey's doing. The AKP is currently flirting with Islamic movements that originated from places such as Egypt and Syria.
 
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Sen neymissin be abi :D zamaninda Islam'a karsi laf atinca adamlarinda yaninda durardin, noldu sana imana mi geldin? :D

Sen beni baskasi ile karıştırıyor olmayasın? Ben elhamdülillah 5 vakit namazını kılan bir insanım nasıl olurda islama laf atan ile bir olurum?
Dediğim gibi ya sen beni başkası ile karıştırıyorsun yada Erdoğan/akp yi eleştirdiğim yada haklı olarak eleştirene desdek verdiğimi islam karşıtlığı olarak alğılıyor olabilirmisin? Muhtemelen...
 
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Notice Diyanet announced new year celebrations illigetimate in Friday's sermon just 2 days before this brutal massacre
 
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Sen beni baskasi ile karıştırıyor olmayasın? Ben elhamdülillah 5 vakit namazını kılan bir insanım nasıl olurda islama laf atan ile bir olurum?
Dediğim gibi ya sen beni başkası ile karıştırıyorsun yada Erdoğan/akp yi eleştirdiğim yada haklı olarak eleştirene desdek verdiğimi islam karşıtlığı olarak alğılıyor olabilirmisin? Muhtemelen...
Hayir hatirliyorum cok net olarak, Islama karsi tutum olanlar ile zamaninda tartisiyordum ve surekli onlarin safinda yer tutuyordun. 6-7 ay kadar önceleri idi.
 
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Hayir hatirliyorum cok net olarak, Islama karsi tutum olanlar ile zamaninda tartisiyordum ve surekli onlarin safinda yer tutuyordun. 6-7 ay kadar önceleri idi.

Nerede ve hangi konuda lütfen burada paylaş.
 
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You don't understand my point. We always had radical Islamists in Turkey like European countries had Nazis. But the common Turkish Islamist movements never used weapons and bombs and guns. Only socialist groups and Arab Islamists choosed this kind of fight. Even hardcore anti-USA/Israel/Nato/EU Sharia fans from Milli Görüş always prefered a civil and political conflict. These refugees and Arabs unfortunately infected the brains and minds of some Turkish Islamists. That's not acceptable.

are you naive ??
 
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Nerede ve hangi konuda lütfen burada paylaş.
Aklimda kalmisdi, 2-3 tane kemalist ile Islam konusunu tartisdigimda (kemalistlerin tekinin ismi secular&faith biseyler olmasi lazim) sende onlarin safinda duruyordun. Simdi net olarak o tartismayi bulmam vakit alir, ne yazikki vaktim yok.

Mühim olan simdiki tutumun, önceleri ne olup bittiyse bu forumda cok da umrumda degil. Sadece seni böyle görünce sasirdim okadar :-)
 
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