The expanding Shiite Crescent

[Armstrong]

Bro imo ismailis do it more than twelvers, I am 90 percent sure ismailis make up most of Pakistani Shia. Anyway if the Aga Khan could fine the time away from his enormous wealth made off of his sheeple for two minutes to issue a fatwa prohibiting it, it would be much obliged.

Oh bhaiii the Ismailis don't do any of those things & Ismailis aren't even in double figures in Pakistan !

 

[RazPaK]

Dude they're slicing up their back-side....I think it would be somewhat natural of me to ask 'Why in God's name do you do that ?'

To punish themselves for betrayal of Hussein.


I could be wrong.


Ask @iranigirl2, she has better understanding, and again I could be very wrong.

 

[anonymus]

Your not getting it completely right here. Comparing performances in conventional warfare and LI-combat is not a really good way to establish anything.

Indeed attacking an entrenched Iran is utter foolishness..and even the Americans with all the firepower they can muster are not too eager for that. On the other hand fighting a short and high intensity conflict would definitely result in a conclusion in Pakistan's favor today wrt to Iran.

There are far too many variable atm..both economies are suffering and not at the top of their game. Most importantly Pakistan and Iran will not enter into hostilities in the near future so all of this becomes academic.

My point was this.

Terrain favor defender and Pakistan is no USA. Short intensity/ long intensity does not matter.

iran's airforce is 3rd class only have 3rd generation fighters.

Islamic Republic of Iran Air Force - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Pretty true.

 

[iranigirl2]

To punish themselves for betrayal of Hussein.


I could be wrong.


Ask @iranigirl2, she has better understanding, and again I could be very wrong.

90% of shias don't this, self harm is prohibited. I've never seen this in my life, only on YouTube!

 

[Armstrong]

Again, why is it Sunnis business what Shias do??

Because they are Pakistanis !

An Arab or an Iranian Shiite or Sunni for that matter can do whatever the hell they do..it doesn't matter ! A Pakistani Shiite on the other hand is my own flesh & blood & naturally I'm concerned about this.

 

[KingMamba]

To punish themselves for betrayal of Hussein.


I could be wrong.


Ask @iranigirl2, she has better understanding, and again I could be very wrong.

To feel his pain and mourn his death while lamenting they were not there to assist is what I heard.

 

[Armstrong]

To punish themselves for betrayal of Hussein.


I could be wrong.

I do believe your right; however at the end of the day when my Shiite mates ask me about it I have one term for this sh*t - Sado-masochism !

 

[iranigirl2]

Because they are Pakistanis !

An Arab or an Iranian Shiite or Sunni for that matter can do whatever the hell they do..it doesn't matter ! A Pakistani Shiite on the other hand is my own flesh & blood & naturally I'm concerned about this.

so you want to tell them what to do, and not to do?

BTW, I don't agree with that either , but it's not my business. Everyone is free to do as they please.

 

[RazPaK]

Actually religion is a banned discussion on the forum guys. It's best to not discuss religious beliefs.

Everybody can do their own research.

 

[Dillinger]

My point was this.

Terrain favor defender and Pakistan is no USA.




Pretty true.

My friend terrain favors Pakistan in northern Kashmir too. Your point being?

Iran is surrounded..you think they'll be foolish enough to gain another declared enemy?

Iran's only trump card would be to go crazy and fight unrestricted submarine warfare..in which case even more sanctions will alight on their heads.

I don't like the ayatollah's policies but I don't think he's foolish.

Chill it..at best..EVEN IF they decide to hate each other they'll go at each other with proxies.

 

[Armstrong]

so you want to tell them what to do, and not to do?

BTW, I don't agree with that either , but it's not my business.

If they're slicing up their backsides then yes...I do make it my business to plead with them not do that !

 

[Yzd Khalifa]

@anonymus

Do you think the US will attack Iran any time soon? We heard something different from the Iranian president today than what he had been saying prior to the elections.

 

[iranigirl2]

BTW, this self-flagellation is very popular with Sufi sects too...

BBC News - In pictures: Ajmer's Sufi Muslim saint remembered

http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/RlJX...ate+12th+Century+Persian/4aRF6rpq-NJ/Ali+Shah


http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/babylonbeyond/2008/04/iraqs-sufis.html

 

[KingMamba]

@Dillinger listen Iran and Pakistan wont actually ever go to war. Pakistan wont intefere and fight a Muslim country on anyones behalf, Pakistani nationalism is based on Islam and the majority still adhere to the concept.

In the first Gulf war I believe the Arabs asked Pakistan to help fight Iraq in the coalition but Pakistan refused and only sent soldiers to guard Mecca and Medina. Mind you this was after they found weapons in Iraqi embassy and were no fans of saddam.

 

[Dillinger]

If they're slicing up their backsides then yes...I do make it my business to plead with them not do that !

You eat soo much nihari every day that your arteries are about ready to choke you to death...see slice your back..drown in nihari..its all the same.

@Dillinger listen Iran and Pakistan wont actually ever go to war. Pakistan wont intefere and fight a Muslim country on anyones behalf, Pakistani nationalism is based on Islam and the majority still adhere to the concept.

In the first Gulf war I believe the Arabs asked Pakistan to help fight Iraq in the coalition but Pakistan refused and only sent soldiers to guard Mecca and Medina. Mind you this was after they found weapons in Iraqi embassy and were no fans of saddam.

I already made it clear that no such war was likely in my first post on the topic.

Hostilities and competition..even proxies but never open warfare.

I was just telling my compatriot that his analysis wasn't exactly accurate.