The end of the deal, hopes, delusions and treasons

[veg]

We dont understand Farsi

 

[mohsen]

We dont understand Farsi

Links are for my countrymen, my single line translation is all you should know!

but if you're curious, this is the title of the first link:
Even Turkmenchay (the most hated treaty among Iranian) had a Persian version, but JCPOA didn't have, it's humiliating (according to Iranian law, all treaties between Iran and other countries should have a Persian version endorsed by other party)/
They (current government authorities) were frustrating the society and were saying we should negotiate (to solve the problems)/
(They even) tied people's food to this treaty and all of the country (factories) were closed/
such an important thing (JCPOA) was ratified in 20 minutes (in Parliament).

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The second link is a speech by our leader about why Imam Hasan (Pbuh) accepted the peace treaty with Muawiya.

 

[veg]

Links are for my countrymen, my single line translation is all you should know!

but if you're curious, this is the title of the first link:
Even Turkmenchay (the most hated treaty among Iranian) had a Persian version, but JCPOA didn't have, it's humiliating (according to Iranian law, all treaties between Iran and other countries should have a Persian version endorsed by other party)/
They (current government authorities) were frustrating the society and were saying we should negotiate (to solve the problems)/
(They even) tied people's food to this treaty and all of the country (factories) were closed/
such an important thing (JCPOA) was ratified in 20 minutes (in Parliament).

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The second link is a speech by our leader about why Imam Hasan (Pbuh) accepted the peace treaty with Muawiya.

All these are non issues while:
(1) Details of the deal came out in the media much before the voting in the parliament.
(2) Persian or not, but Khamenei also knew the details much before the voting in the parliament and had already given his blessing to it.
(3) And if it was not in Persian, and the members of the parliament were unable to understand it, and it was against the law .... then all of the fundamentalist lawmakers in the Parliament (whom you support) are blamed for this crime for not protesting against it at that time. These are only double standards from you to blame the reformists
(4) And again the question is why the Fundamentalists members accepted it within 20 minutes?
(5) And even Khamenei becomes criminal why he didn't criticize it and declared it against the law (i.e. bill not being in persian, and members accepting it without debate within 20 minutes).
(6) The fundamentalists accepted it within 20 minutes while they already knew Khamenie approved it, and the value of the parliament in Iran is mostly a Drama, while real powers lie in the hands of Khamenei.

You are only hell bend to make reformists responsible for all the evils in Iran.

 

[raptor22]

All these are non issues while:
(1) Details of the deal came out in the media much before the voting in the parliament.
(2) Persian or not, but Khamenei also knew the details much before the voting in the parliament and had already given his blessing to it.
(3) And if it was not in Persian, and the members of the parliament were unable to understand it, and it was against the law .... then all of the fundamentalist lawmakers in the Parliament (whom you support) are blamed for this crime for not protesting against it at that time. These are only double standards from you to blame the reformists
(4) And again the question is why the Fundamentalists members accepted it within 20 minutes?
(5) And even Khamenei becomes criminal why he didn't criticize it and declared it against the law (i.e. bill not being in persian, and members accepting it without debate within 20 minutes).
(6) The fundamentalists accepted it within 20 minutes while they already knew Khamenie approved it, and the value of the parliament in Iran is mostly a Drama, while real powers lie in the hands of Khamenei.

You are only hell bend to make reformists responsible for all the evils in Iran.

Khameni has tendency to support elected governments in office even if there are disagreements he did it to Khatami (let him to almost shut down entire Iran nuclear program and negotiate with EU3) and also Ahmadinejad,in fact before JCPoA some people were thinking that negotiations with the US would solve all our problems and once we reach an agreement then 1 Rial would be 1 cent many of them voted to Rouhani .. actually these people wanted a deal that's why they voted to a candidate that his main campaign slogans were about this, I think you've seen photos of people whom were dancing in Tehran streets were happy that all their problems is bout to get disappeared.
On the other hand if SL would have prevented the deal some people inside would have said we wanted to have deal to solve problems the Americans were ready too he didn't let us and then blame all the problems and sanctions on him.
SL while highlighted his red lines (which negotiators later on accepted that they could not keep up with), while warned many times that the US ain't trustworthy, didn't opposed what voters to president as (majority) wanted ...
This policy has some benefits for Iran,

First of all, those whom had hope on the US would now realize who is the problem. that means unity.
IRI has already for 12 years tried all ways to reach an understanding with other side the JCPoA and Iran fully compliance to it is a good example, no one could accuse IR of taking people lives hostage for its nuclear ambitions.
All people across the globe whom followed the negotiations have seen which side is trouble maker and whom seek cooperation
And at the end we've not given up our program, since we have the knowledge it would be just a political decision to speed up our enrichment while we've used this time without sanctions to work on our economy, finish isis in Iraq and Syria increase our defensive capabilities and not to mention to develop more advanced centrifuges which are 24 faster than first generation, actually we needed time for all these.

 

[yavar]

 

[Hack-Hook]

Khameni has tendency to support elected governments in office even if there are disagreements he did it to Khatami (let him to almost shut down entire Iran nuclear program and negotiate with EU3) and also Ahmadinejad,in fact before JCPoA some people were thinking that negotiations with the US would solve all our problems and once we reach an agreement then 1 Rial would be 1 cent many of them voted to Rouhani .. actually these people wanted a deal that's why they voted to a candidate that his main campaign slogans were about this, I think you've seen photos of people whom were dancing in Tehran streets were happy that all their problems is bout to get disappeared.
On the other hand if SL would have prevented the deal some people inside would have said we wanted to have deal to solve problems the Americans were ready too he didn't let us and then blame all the problems and sanctions on him.
SL while highlighted his red lines (which negotiators later on accepted that they could not keep up with), while warned many times that the US ain't trustworthy, didn't opposed what voters to president as (majority) wanted ...
This policy has some benefits for Iran,

First of all, those whom had hope on the US would now realize who is the problem. that means unity.
IRI has already for 12 years tried all ways to reach an understanding with other side the JCPoA and Iran fully compliance to it is a good example, no one could accuse IR of taking people lives hostage for its nuclear ambitions.
All people across the globe whom followed the negotiations have seen which side is trouble maker and whom seek cooperation
And at the end we've not given up our program, since we have the knowledge it would be just a political decision to speed up our enrichment while we've used this time without sanctions to work on our economy, finish isis in Iraq and Syria increase our defensive capabilities and not to mention to develop more advanced centrifuges which are 24 faster than first generation, actually we needed time for all these.

There is a reason at the time of khatami all of the government and national security council and supreme leader approved of shutting down the program.
It was that or USA ......... And at the time what we had for defending ourselves ?

 

[yavar]

https://www.youtube.com/edit?o=U&video_id=u69PA_AtB_8

 

[raptor22]

There is a reason at the time of khatami all of the government and national security council and supreme leader approved of shutting down the program.
It was that or USA ......... And at the time what we had for defending ourselves ?

The program started in the same Gov, what happened to our defending means over night? while American were in both Iraq and Afghanistan. I am not saying what you said wasn't a reason but not all because of that.

I think the same people whom now are trying to say war is inevitable if we don't be a good boy were in power back then too and sent that letter in 2003.

 

[OldTwilight]

Well , so calls reformers in reality are opurtunist Conformist

 

[Solomon2]

Kaveh madani (citizen of U.K and U.S) was part of a spy network in the cover of environment activist. his case was being investigated and he was released by bail (by the similar traitors in the cabinet), he escaped to U.K to prevent further loose to this spy network. traitors are those who repeat the same propaganda of the sworn enemies of Iran.

https://twitter.com/x/status/986126577892249600

“Yes, the accused fled from a country where virtual bullies push against science, knowledge and expertise and resort to conspiracy theories to find a scapegoat for all the problems because they know well that finding an enemy, spy or someone to blame is much easier than accepting responsibility and complicity in a problem.”

 

[mohsen]

https://twitter.com/x/status/986126577892249600

“Yes, the accused fled from a country where virtual bullies push against science, knowledge and expertise and resort to conspiracy theories to find a scapegoat for all the problems because they know well that finding an enemy, spy or someone to blame is much easier than accepting responsibility and complicity in a problem.”

So a Zionist wants to defend this spy, thanks for your confirmation!

 

[mohsen]

And the fate of Iranian car industries (or better to say assembly garages):
Peugeot owner PSA begins to suspend Iran joint ventures
French company joins businesses to respond to threat of potential US sanctions
June 4, 2018
Peugeot owner PSA has become the latest French company to signal it will pull out of Iran if it cannot get bulletproof protection from potential US sanctions.

The French carmaker said it had begun to suspend its joint ventures in Iran and will look for a waiver protecting it from US sanctions after the Trump administration pulled out of the nuclear deal.

Following the US withdrawal, PSA “began the process of suspending the activities of its JVs, in order to comply with US law by August 6, 2018. With the support of the French Government, the PSA group is in contact with US authorities to consider a waiver,” said PSA in a statement on Monday evening.
بازخوانی اعتماد دوباره به پژو: از نعمت‌زاده و مدیرعامل ایران‌خودرو تا رسانه حامی دولت+عکس

روزنامه دنیای اقتصاد ادعا می‌کرد که قرارداد پژو به عنوان سپر دفاعی در مقابل تلاش‌های کاخ‌سفید برای نابودی توافق هسته‌ای تبدیل شده است!


though there is a high chance that U.S will exclude the Peugeot, selling expensive junks and holding back indigenous capabilities in Iran is a big achievement itself.


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other achievements:
Daelim revokes $2 billion deal with Iranian oil company in wake of reinstated U.S. sanctions
SEOUL, June 1 (Yonhap) -- Daelim Industrial Co., a major construction firm here, has canceled a construction deal worth 2.2 trillion won (US$2 billion) with an Iranian oil refining company in the wake of the United States' renewed sanctions against the Middle Eastern country, the South Korean firm said Friday.

HMM prepares to wind down Iran business
Hyundai Merchant Marine (HMM) is getting ready to stop calls to Iran as the United States is poised to reimpose sanctions.

HMM’s move comes after CMA CGM became the first carrier to withdraw Iran services following Trump’s 9 May announcement. Maersk Line and Mediterranean Shipping Company, the 2M alliance members that HMM is co-operating with, are also winding down their activities in Iran.

 

[veg]

And the fate of Iranian car industries (or better to say assembly garages):
Peugeot owner PSA begins to suspend Iran joint ventures
French company joins businesses to respond to threat of potential US sanctions
June 4, 2018
Peugeot owner PSA has become the latest French company to signal it will pull out of Iran if it cannot get bulletproof protection from potential US sanctions.

The French carmaker said it had begun to suspend its joint ventures in Iran and will look for a waiver protecting it from US sanctions after the Trump administration pulled out of the nuclear deal.

Following the US withdrawal, PSA “began the process of suspending the activities of its JVs, in order to comply with US law by August 6, 2018. With the support of the French Government, the PSA group is in contact with US authorities to consider a waiver,” said PSA in a statement on Monday evening.
بازخوانی اعتماد دوباره به پژو: از نعمت‌زاده و مدیرعامل ایران‌خودرو تا رسانه حامی دولت+عکس

روزنامه دنیای اقتصاد ادعا می‌کرد که قرارداد پژو به عنوان سپر دفاعی در مقابل تلاش‌های کاخ‌سفید برای نابودی توافق هسته‌ای تبدیل شده است!


though there is a high chance that U.S will exclude the Peugeot, selling expensive junks and holding back indigenous capabilities in Iran is a big achievement itself.


----------------------------
other achievements:
Daelim revokes $2 billion deal with Iranian oil company in wake of reinstated U.S. sanctions
SEOUL, June 1 (Yonhap) -- Daelim Industrial Co., a major construction firm here, has canceled a construction deal worth 2.2 trillion won (US$2 billion) with an Iranian oil refining company in the wake of the United States' renewed sanctions against the Middle Eastern country, the South Korean firm said Friday.

HMM prepares to wind down Iran business
Hyundai Merchant Marine (HMM) is getting ready to stop calls to Iran as the United States is poised to reimpose sanctions.

HMM’s move comes after CMA CGM became the first carrier to withdraw Iran services following Trump’s 9 May announcement. Maersk Line and Mediterranean Shipping Company, the 2M alliance members that HMM is co-operating with, are also winding down their activities in Iran.

So, are these sanctions good for Iran or bad for Iran?

 

[raptor22]

And the fate of Iranian car industries (or better to say assembly garages):
Peugeot owner PSA begins to suspend Iran joint ventures
French company joins businesses to respond to threat of potential US sanctions
June 4, 2018
Peugeot owner PSA has become the latest French company to signal it will pull out of Iran if it cannot get bulletproof protection from potential US sanctions.

The French carmaker said it had begun to suspend its joint ventures in Iran and will look for a waiver protecting it from US sanctions after the Trump administration pulled out of the nuclear deal.

Following the US withdrawal, PSA “began the process of suspending the activities of its JVs, in order to comply with US law by August 6, 2018. With the support of the French Government, the PSA group is in contact with US authorities to consider a waiver,” said PSA in a statement on Monday evening.
بازخوانی اعتماد دوباره به پژو: از نعمت‌زاده و مدیرعامل ایران‌خودرو تا رسانه حامی دولت+عکس

روزنامه دنیای اقتصاد ادعا می‌کرد که قرارداد پژو به عنوان سپر دفاعی در مقابل تلاش‌های کاخ‌سفید برای نابودی توافق هسته‌ای تبدیل شده است!


though there is a high chance that U.S will exclude the Peugeot, selling expensive junks and holding back indigenous capabilities in Iran is a big achievement itself.


----------------------------
other achievements:
Daelim revokes $2 billion deal with Iranian oil company in wake of reinstated U.S. sanctions
SEOUL, June 1 (Yonhap) -- Daelim Industrial Co., a major construction firm here, has canceled a construction deal worth 2.2 trillion won (US$2 billion) with an Iranian oil refining company in the wake of the United States' renewed sanctions against the Middle Eastern country, the South Korean firm said Friday.

HMM prepares to wind down Iran business
Hyundai Merchant Marine (HMM) is getting ready to stop calls to Iran as the United States is poised to reimpose sanctions.

HMM’s move comes after CMA CGM became the first carrier to withdraw Iran services following Trump’s 9 May announcement. Maersk Line and Mediterranean Shipping Company, the 2M alliance members that HMM is co-operating with, are also winding down their activities in Iran.

مشکل مدیرانی هستند که بیشتر به منافع خودشون اهمیت میدن تا رفتن پژو و ترامپ
دشمنی ترامپ قابل فهم ولی این ها چی؟ زه پراید رو کجای دلم بزارم.؟

 

[mohsen]

So, are these sanctions good for Iran or bad for Iran?

In long term they are absolute goodness for Iran.



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فیلم/ ظریف ۹۴: آمریکا "نمی‌تواند" از برجام خارج شود!

Iranian reformist foreign minister Mohammad Javad Zarif ( 2015): U.S can't exit the JCPOA, and if they quit, nobody would listen to them, everyone confirmed my opinion in twitter!




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The day traitors in Parliament ratified JCPOA in 20 minutes:

Conservatives crying:

Reformists celebrating:

and of course Mr genius: