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The depth of Turkey's miscalculation, in Syria

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Two years have elapsed in the Syrian conflict, and no apparent end to the bloodshed is in sight, as the warring sides are locked in what looks increasingly like a war of attrition. Ankara's calculations concerning Syria seem to have amounted to nothing over the past few years.

But even more than that, Syria has turned out to be the crisis on which Turkey’s ambitious Middle East policies foundered in ways expected by neither Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan or Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu — the architect of the now-defunct “zero problems with neighbors” policy.

Just over two years ago, Syrian President Bashar al-Assad and Erdogan met in a friendly atmosphere for the groundbreaking ceremony for the so-called “Friendship Dam,” to be built on the Orontes River which separates the two countries.
Erdogan couldn't have predicted that this friendship would turn sour just a few months down the road.

Turkey and Syria had not only lifted visa restrictions in order to enable the two nations to mingle and increase their economic interaction, but had also held joint cabinet meetings to demonstrate just how close the two countries had become.
There was also a tone of defiance in Ankara’s Syrian policy at the time — sending a message to a West increasingly wary of these ties that Turkey, and not others, would decide who Ankara would establish ties with.

In the meantime, Ankara demonstrated its potential as a regional “soft power” when it mediated indirect negotiations between Syria and Israel. Although that effort ended abruptly after Israel unleashed its brutal “Operation Cast Lead” against Gaza at the end of 2008, it nevertheless showed that Turkey could act for the benefit of the region.

Another development along these lines was the 2010 deal spelled out in the “Tehran Declaration,” worked out by Turkey with Brazil for Iran’s enriched uranium stocks. That deal was eventually rejected by Washington, but nevertheless proved Turkey’s ability to mediate regional disputes.
But all that is a distant echo today: Assad has turned into Erdogan’s archenemy, and Turkey retains scant leverage over Iran due to the radically different positions of the two countries on Syria. What went so wrong for Turkey that it finds itself in this situation?
There was nothing wrong in Ankara’s opening up to the Arab world, with Syria as the main litmus test in this regard. Erdogan and Davutoglu’s intentions on Syria were ultimately good.
Their mistake was adopting overly ambitious policies that misjudged the Middle East and miscalculated Turkey’s capacity to influence the course of events in the region. Those were the days when Davutoglu claimed that Turkey knew the Middle East better than most because of its past there, and uttered remarks to the effect that not even a leaf could budge in the region without Ankara’s consent.

According to Davutoglu, Turkey was “the region’s game setter.” Armed with that kind of self-assurance, he went to Damascus in August 2011 with the hopes of convincing Assad to reform his country and avoid the fate of Tunisia’s Zine El Abidine Ben Ali or Egypt’s Hosni Mubarak.
But six hours of talks with Assad bore no fruit, and ties between Ankara and Damascus took a nosedive after that failure. Davutoglu had simply overestimated his capacity to convince Assad. But Davutoglu's misjudgments of Syria didn't end there. He also failed to consider Syria's complicated demographic makeup with its ethnic, sectarian and regional fault lines, and he overlooked the bad blood that went back to the Hama massacres of 1982.

Erdogan and Davutoglu preferred to see the situation in Syria simplistically, as a case of a brutal dictator attacking and killing his own people. Ankara failed to consider the fact that Assad still retained support from minority Alawites and from Christians who feared Sunnis were out to avenge the past.

In the end, Turkey’s support for the “oppressed Syrian people” came to be seen by Syria's Alawites and Christians as support for the Syria's Sunni majority. As a result, many in the region now think Ankara is pursuing a divisive policy in Syria based on its own sectarian preferences.
Another major misjudgment by Ankara concerned Syria’s historic links with Russia, a permanent member of the Security Council, and Iran, as well as radical groups like the Lebanese Hezbollah, for whom Assad’s survival is vitally important.

Turkey has had no success in diplomatic efforts aimed at convincing Moscow and Tehran to desert Assad for the opposition — a clear indication that Davutoglu didn't understand the nature of the strategic relationship these countries seek to protect with Syria.

The irony is that Volkan Bozkir, a deputy from Erdogan’s own party who is a former senior diplomat, and currently heads the Foreign Relations Committee in the Turkish parliament, has said on numerous occasions that there can be no settlement to the Syrian crisis which does not factor in Russian interests. One could add Iran's interests to this equation.
This realistic piece of advice from a seasoned diplomat was not taken seriously by Erdogan or Davutoglu, who instead put all of Turkey’s eggs into single basket and developed a one-dimensional policy of dispatching Assad by any means possible. Turkey today continues to bet on a military victory by the opposition, even as that seems increasingly impossible.

Ankara also underestimated the “Kurdish dimension” of the Syrian uprising, and Turkey was caught unexpectedly when Syrian Kurds started gaining ground along the border with Turkey. Kurdish reports claim that Ankara went on to pursue a proxy war by supporting jihadist elements such as Jabhat al-Nusra fighting the Syrian Kurds.

As a result of these miscalculations, Ankara today faces a multidimensional crisis in Syria, with refugees continuing to stream into Turkish territory and new threats posed to Turkey’s security. Ankara is no longer a key player, let alone a “game setter,” in the search for a resolution to the crisis, having lost its impartiality in regional disputes.

No mater what policy it pursued, the Erdogan government would have been faced with a serious crisis on its borders as a result of the uprising in Syria. But had it positioned itself better with a deeper understanding of the region, instead of operating on the basis of subjective assumptions, it could have left some useful channels of communication open with the Assad regime.
Instead, it preferred to burn bridges instead and turn Assad — who was no less of a brutal dictator when Ankara enjoyed good ties with him — into an arch-enemy. It chose to pursue policies that have left Turkey facing Shiite and Alawite accusations of destabilizing the region with sectarian policies, which in turn have deepened the divisions in Syria.


Read more: Turkey Miscalculates Syria - Al-Monitor: the Pulse of the Middle East
 
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Turkey’s hopes fade as rebels fail in Syria

Turkish rulers seem to have miscalculated badly about events in Syria but there is little proof they are about to admit the error and make course correction.
As the rebellion in Syria loses momentum, one of the most deeply involved parties in the conflict — Turkey — emerges as the biggest loser of the war, barring of course the Syrian people themselves. From the beginning of insurrection, Turkey has sided with the US, Saudi Arabia and Qatar to overthrow the government of Bashar al-Asad. In order to achieve this, Turkey embraced a leading role in the plot that has been financed by Saudi Arabia and Qatar with full political and intelligence backing of the US and its Western allies.


The perpetrators expected a quick victory similar to the one that occurred in Libya. The initial timeframe was expected to be about three months as Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu anticipated and preparations were made accordingly. However, they miscalculated al-Asad’s resilience; based on this, international and domestic support rallied behind him. The rebellion peaked in mid-July. A major rebel assault was launched to take control of Damascus and Aleppo, the two most import cities in the country. Additionally, the assassination of top Syrian security officials on July 18 gave impetus to the rebel campaign as they paralyzed the highest decision-making body of the Syrian government.


During the rebel campaign Turkey took every possible military and political measure to support the rebels. In terms of military help, Turkey supplied shoulder held Stinger missiles to the rebels in an attempt to cripple the Syrian air force that provides significant advantage to government forces. Şefik Çirkin, MP of the National Movement Party, told the media that Turkey had supplied the Syrian rebels with Stinger missiles. As a result, the rebels shot down a Syrian MIG-21 aircraft, all the while filming the incident with a view to falshing its images on the internet.


Further, after the major rebel attack to take control of Damascus and Aleppo, the Syrian government changed its war strategy and redeployed its troops from the borders and rural areas to the cities. This enabled the Syrian government to reinforce troops in the urban centers to root out the rebels. The strategy has worked well and reinforcements have enabled government troops to regain control of most parts of Damascus and Aleppo that had fallen into rebel hands.


The Turkish military also staged several unscheduled large scale war-games on the Syrian border in August. The aim was to create the impression that Turkey was about to cross the border to attack Syria. This was intended to force the Syrian government to deploy troops that are fighting the rebels in the cities, to the border region. This would have eased pressure on the rebels. The Syrian government did not fall for this trap and instead concentrated on fighting the rebels in the cities.


Diplomatically, Turkey has been appalled at the US, Europe and UN failure to create a buffer zone inside Syria that would serve as a safe haven for the rebels. They soon realized the improbability of such a scenario, as it would have required partial occupation of Syria. Barack Obama facing presidential elections later this year has been reluctant to become militarily involved in Syria. The West and allies’ support to the rebels is limited to military, financial and intelligence aid. Turkey then pressed for a no-fly zone between Aleppo and the Turkish border. On the pretext of preventing Syrian refugee influx into Turkey that hopefully would prompt the UN Security Council to authorize military intervention, Turkish politicians called upon the international community to intervene in the conflict.


During funeral prayers for security forces that were killed by the Kurdish guerrilla group, the PKK, Turkish Foreign Minister Davudoglu was asked about the high number of Syrian refugees. One estimate puts them at 75,000 in Turkey. He said “Yes, if the numbers exceed 100,000 this is no longer a refugee problem; it rather becomes mass migration. In 1991 when Saddam used chemical weapons, around 500,000 Kurdish brothers took shelter in Turkey and it attracted the world’s attention. This incident [therefore] cannot be considered as normal tension, instead it becomes a catastrophe so it requires UN involvement.”


Further, Turkey has also been trying to drag in the US to take direct military action against Syria and Turkish officials have held several meetings in this regard. However, in a statement last month, Obama made clear that the US would only consider attacking Syria if the Syrian government used chemical weapons against the rebels.


While there is no evidence that the Syrian government is planning to do any such thing, Turkey has already made claims that Syria has been using chemical weapons against the rebels. This is part of a ploy to force the US to attack Syria. Yenisafak, a newspaper considered a mouthpiece of the AKP government, took the lead and based on a video that was uploaded by Syrian rebels on the internet, claimed that the Syrian army has used chemical weapons. Past rebel claims have turned out to be equally false and there is little reason to believe this one either but in war, propaganda, no matter how false, is a handy tool.


The Syrian government’s quick recovery from the rebel offensive was a major blow to expectations in Ankara, as they thought the rebel campaign would surely topple the government. Since then Turkey has started to realize that despite its expectations the Syrian government might survive this upheaval and if so the consequences for Turkey would be devastating.


The most worrying consequence would be the Kurdish problem. Turkey is extremely worried about increasing Kurdish activities in the Northeastern region of Syria. Syrian security forces have pulled out of the Kurdish dominated region in the northeast and allowed local militia to take control. They also reached an agreement with the Kurds that make up 9% of the population, according to which they would defend the region against the rebels. Thus, the Syrian government managed to kill two birds with one stone. First, troops were relieved from the Kurdish region to fight the rebels in the cities and second, lack of government control has given the PKK greater opportunity to increase its presence in the region.


The PKK intensified its attacks against Turkish security forces and it has been one of the bloodiest summers in the 30-year history of the conflict. In August alone, 19 Turkish armed forces personnel and nine civilians were killed. The same month, the PKK also launched one of the most daring attacks in its history; they planned to overrun Semdinli, a district of the city of Hakkari. The attacks started on July 23 and continued till the end of August. According to the testimony of a captured PKK fighter, the aim was to use Semdinli as a test case and launching pad. If successful, this would boost morale of the Kurdish rebels elsewhere, enabling them to spread it to larger cities and create a situation in Turkey similar to that in Syria. However, adept use of indigenous Turkish UAVs foiled the plot and Turkish security forces managed to suppress the operation before the PKK could take control of the town.


Turkey is also extremely worried about the de facto autonomous rule of the Kurds as it might lead to the creation of an independent Kurdish state. Thus, increasing casualties due to PKK attacks and the danger of an independent Kurdish state have put the AKP government under immense domestic pressure.


In order to prevent PKK assaults being launched from Syria and to prevent the establishment of an independent Kurdish state, Turkey has begun Operational Mechanism Meetings with US officials. According to the Turkish daily, Hurriyet, the first meeting took place in Ankara on August 23.


Turkey has played all its cards against Syria at the cost of straining relations with its other neighbors, Iran and Iraq. Turkish officials had until now firmly believed in the imminent collapse of the Syrian government. However, they are now beginning to realize that this is unlikely and that they might end up losing completely. Ankara now has to live with the mess it created along the Syrian border and the animosity of the Syrian government while aligning itself with such oppressive regimes as those in Saudi Arabia and Qatar as well as serving the interests of imperialism and Zionism. These are hardly policies that serve the interests of Turkey or advance the cause of the broader Muslim Ummah.

Turkey?s hopes fade as rebels fail in Syria, Ahmet Aslan, Crescent Magazine
 
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Erdoğan didnt miscalculate what would happen in Syria, but in Turkey. He expected the people's support and while Turkey has the power to do whatever it wants in Syria, the people aren't going to throw their weight behind the government and it would be a political disaster
 
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Erdoğan didnt miscalculate what would happen in Syria, but in Turkey. He expected the people's support and while Turkey has the power to do whatever it wants in Syria, the people aren't going to throw their weight behind the government and it would be a political disaster

you hadn't any power ... and does not become arrogant because of some weapons you have ... Syria army hadn't a clear target to attack it in civil war but if turkey interfere in Syria , then SAA would has a clear targets to attack ... and don't think others will sit an watch you to invade Syria ....

while we had not any power , we acted against both Soviet and USA in Afghanistan and Iraq , so we can destroy your economic in proxy war ... even USA economic couldn't handle the price .... and they can print dollars like toilet paper but Turkey has to earn it with hard work ...

Erdogan wanted another Libya scenario in first place but he forget that Syria is Syria not Libya ....
 
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To be fair, Turkey did hold off for quite awhile before getting fully involved.

However,Erdogan miscalculated because he thought the Turks would be on board and this would be the conflict that would propel him to regional hero amongst the Arabs and Turks.

The Turks are not interested in a conflict that has extreme jihadists in it.

Turkey does unfortunately have a duty to aid the refugees. This happens to all countries that have borders with a warring state.
 
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you hadn't any power ... and does not become arrogant because of some weapons you have ... Syria army hadn't a clear target to attack it in civil war but if turkey interfere in Syria , then SAA would has a clear targets to attack ... and don't think others will sit an watch you to invade Syria ....
I agree with what you're saying about having a target, this is as much the case in Syria not being able to wipe out the FSA as Turkey's problems with the PKK are. Insurgents don't fight out in the open and again, I agree. But comeon, if Turkey ACTUALLY put their military might in full force we both know Syria would have been defeated.

Which countries are you suggesting won't watch us invade?
 
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you hadn't any power ... and does not become arrogant because of some weapons you have ... Syria army hadn't a clear target to attack it in civil war but if turkey interfere in Syria , then SAA would has a clear targets to attack ... and don't think others will sit an watch you to invade Syria ....

while we had not any power , we acted against both Soviet and USA in Afghanistan and Iraq , so we can destroy your economic in proxy war ... even USA economic couldn't handle the price .... and they can print dollars like toilet paper but Turkey has to earn it with hard work ...

Erdogan wanted another Libya scenario in first place but he forget that Syria is Syria not Libya ....
You have so much power the world is shaking,the only ''power''you have is talk on internet.
Did you have your daily Red Bull yet?
Must be cause you flying,dreaming!
You lost Syria so just give up,dont take on Turkiye out of your league!
 
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Which countries are you suggesting won't watch us invade?

Two countries on the top of my head. Russia and Iran.
If Turkey had the power to do anything it wanted, it wouldnt be begging the US to attack it for them. How did Erdogans meeting with Obama go? Erdogan seemed rather in despair and looked very depressed.
Let's face it, Turkey overstepped.
 
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Two countries on the top of my head. Russia and Iran.
If Turkey had the power to do anything it wanted, it wouldnt be begging the US to attack it for them. How did Erdogans meeting with Obama go? Erdogan seemed rather in despair and looked very depressed.
Let's face it, Turkey overstepped.
Ok lets say we go in and you attack us,be rational what will happen then?
 
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I think you already know the answer to that.

Now please, any Turk or Iranian don't start please but I'm going to ask this question very seriously to resurgentiran.

A) Would Iran actually, political and military considerations included, attack Turkey?

B) What theaters would this play out in, in your opinion? Missile strikes only or would they actually attack via the land border?

C) What would Iran's counter to Turkey's conventional superiority be?




edit:also, wouldn't this invoke Article 5 (NATO) ?
 
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Now please, any Turk or Iranian don't start please but I'm going to ask this question very seriously to resurgentiran.

A) Would Iran actually, political and military considerations included, attack Turkey?

B) What theaters would this play out in, in your opinion? Missile strikes only or would they actually attack via the land border?

C) What would Iran's counter to Turkey's conventional superiority be?

It is neither in Turkeys or Irans interest to attack one another. It would be very devastating for both countries, which is why neither Turkey or Iran would let it escalate to the point where they were in direct confrontation with one another.

And that is why Turkey would never invade. But let the conflict battle itself out on proxy level.
 
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The fact is assad is technical down. Only reason why he is in charge is help of terrorists from hizbullat, iraq and iran. There is no landforece of syrian goverment anymore. They have big problems wit the maintance of the jetfighters. with the help of russia they are for now operational.

When the airforce fals down then it wil be finished. This wil be vietname for iran and not of america, turkey or other country.
 
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I agree with what you're saying about having a target, this is as much the case in Syria not being able to wipe out the FSA as Turkey's problems with the PKK are. Insurgents don't fight out in the open and again, I agree. But comeon, if Turkey ACTUALLY put their military might in full force we both know Syria would have been defeated.

Which countries are you suggesting won't watch us invade?

Americans had the same thought when they went into Iraq and then Afghanistan thinking it will be a walk in the park.2014 Americans move out after losing 1000s of soldiers and trillions of dollars are you telling me Turks would have been able to do better in Syria whos armed forces have much more equipment then Afghans.
 
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It is neither in Turkeys or Irans interest to attack one another. It would be very devastating for both countries, which is why I believe that neither Turkey or Iran would let it escalate to the point where they were in direct confrontation with one another.

And that is why Turkey would never invade. But let the conflict battle itself out on proxy level.

I agree, that's what would happen between Iran and Turkey and that's exactly why, as you're saying it yourself it would not be in Iran's interests, I don't think Iran would attack Turkey if Turkey made the mistake of invading Syria.

But seriously, if Iran did decide to attack Turkey how would they go about it? The reason I'm insisting on an answer is because the land border is so small and undeveloped that I can't see any major land conflict going on which would have been a more balancing theater between the two countries. Otherwise wouldn't it just be Iranian missiles flying one way and the Turkish airforce decimating Iranian targets on the ground?
 
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It is neither in Turkeys or Irans interest to attack one another. It would be very devastating for both countries, which is why I believe that neither Turkey or Iran would let it escalate to the point where they were in direct confrontation with one another.

And that is why Turkey would never invade. But let the conflict battle itself out on proxy level.


What makes you so sure that Iran could seriously hurt Turkey, in all seriousness?
Let's ignore Turkey's capabilities for a second and just talk about the next logic step once Iran shoots just one rocket or whatever at Turkey: NATO will get involved. The USA are probably just waiting for an incident to take your Mullahs out. They have more then enough troops and aircraft carriers close to Iran to make you stop within a few days.
 
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