The Decline Of Bengali Hindus

[Bilal9]

'Ka a Turubara Panchabi Dal A
Chanchal chitte Poitha Kal a'
Can a commoner understand the meaning.

Well most of us do get most of it in spite of it being sort of Sanskrit:-

Turubara = Toru+bara = Tree or parts thereof
Panchabi Dal = 'Dal' means flower petal, so some kind of flower (ShataDal means one hundred petals i.e. Lotus)
Chanchal chitte = Restless soul
Poitha = Thread signfying Brahmin class

Not bad for an 'arabized' Bangladeshi...eh? But what is the meaning?

Bangladeshis are fake bengalis who follow a medieval arab tribal warlord with nothing to do with us or this land. The poor bangladeshis polevault over here and crowd our slums and create muslim ghettos by themselves.Bangladeshi cricket fans are acknowledged world over as the worst behaved jokers which is why even sri lankans who never liked us supported us and humiliated you .Bangladeshis have a chip on their shoulder,suffering from a little guy complex because they can never really be significant on the world stage and will always be just puppets in hands of greater powers as was proved in rohingya crisis when 'warrior' bengali muslims peed in their pants against tiny myanmar.If its was not for indian army they wouldn't even exist and would have been exterminated in 1971 and enslaved by punjabis and pathans,but their envy and communal hatred is deep.Jamati types in summary suffer from at once -identity crisis , envy ,communal hatred and inferiority complex.

Good that you got all that hate off your chest Dada. Congrats. Now go to Bhajahari Manna and celebrate.

Patience! We are very good at it...

Exactly! No need for pointless skirmishes to off-track our progress and development.

 

[AUSTERLITZ]

When and how you have become PDF think tank analyst kids?

@WebMaster do you have any criteria for selecting PDF Think Tank? Please read the post.

I answered the jamatis in the language they understand.You jamatis have been spewing hatred against bengalis constantly on this thread and forum,i just showed you your true reality and yanked down your lungi of delusion.Simple as that.I don't address civilized forumers in this manner.But the uncivilized behaviour of bangladeshis is now well acknowledged,the whole cricket community laughs at your fans- always boasting,crying,whining and envious.

 

[Flynn Swagmire]

But the uncivilized behaviour of bangladeshis is now well acknowledged,

LOL, says a person from hindustan. Where hindus gangrape muslim child to create fear among muslims.

That was just another well civilized act from your guys. NO?

the whole cricket community laughs at your fans- always boasting,crying,whining and envious.

We need haters to hate us. It fuels us.

 

[AUSTERLITZ]

LOL, says a person from hindustan. Where hindus gangrape muslim child to create fear among muslims.

That was just another well civilized act from your guys. NO?

We need haters to hate us. It fuels us.

When did such incident happen in west bengal?Hating is all you are taught in your jamati madrasa,so i'm not surprised.

 

[Flynn Swagmire]

When did such incident happen in west bengal?Hating is all you are taught in your jamati madrasa,so i'm not surprised.

So, West Bengal isn't a part of hindustan? You aren't hindustani?

Chutiyami is in your blood! Im not surprised...

 

[Kandari-Hushiyaar]

Wrong, Charyapada was written in an Abahatta that was the common ancestor of Bengali, Assamese, Odia and Maithili. All of them consider it as their oldest form.
'Ka a Turubara Panchabi Dal A
Chanchal chitte Poitha Kal a'
Can a commoner understand the meaning. It was song of Buddhist Tantric or Vajrayana tradition.

Well, There were almost 50 writers of Charyapad. And linguists can prove that Phonetically Majority of the Verse were written by Bengalis. There were Maithali and Assamese writers too. t You probably mean Shandho Vasha which basically mean "the language used is hard to understand, not written in a comprehensible way" . It is itself not a separate language.

And by "can a commoner understand the meaning" you want to say the writers was not using rustic form of the language - Know that the writers are considered rustic rural people mostly involved in menial jobs like begging, hunting or boatman-ship etc. Thus the language is considered so.


Bangali as well as n-Bangali poets composed doha in Abahattha Secular literature was also written in Abahattha. In the 10th century, when Bangla was just developing, there was some rivalry between the two languages. However, poets often wrote in both languages; for example, they composed charyapada in Bangla and doha in Abahattha.

 

[AfrazulMandal]

Not interested in dhuti bindi wearing culture

That's the spirit.

So, West Bengal isn't a part of hindustan? You aren't hindustani?

Chutiyami is in your blood! Im not surprised...

malaun be malauns.

Not sure whether you are a delusional Bangladeshi troll or a delusional Muslim from West Bengal, but do note this; either you will die with your fantasies, or you will die trying.

Lol.
Only Bangali Hindus abscond. We don't have this habit. So sorry.

 

[itsanufy]

Well most of us do get most of it in spite of it being sort of Sanskrit:-

Turubara = Toru+bara = Tree or parts thereof
Panchabi Dal = 'Dal' means flower petal, so some kind of flower (ShataDal means one hundred petals i.e. Lotus)
Chanchal chitte = Restless soul
Poitha = Thread signfying Brahmin class

Not bad for an 'arabized' Bangladeshi...eh? But what is the meaning?



Good that you got all that hate off your chest Dada. Congrats. Now go to Bhajahari Manna and celebrate.



Exactly! No need for pointless skirmishes to off-track our progress and development.

You are a commoner, @Kandari-Hushiyaar please help him to know the meaning if you can.

Well, There were almost 50 writers of Charyapad. And linguists can prove that Phonetically Majority of the Verse were written by Bengalis. There were Maithali and Assamese writers too. t You probably mean Shandho Vasha which basically mean "the language used is hard to understand, not written in a comprehensible way" . It is itself not a separate language.

And by "can a commoner understand the meaning" you want to say the writers was not using rustic form of the language - Know that the writers are considered rustic rural people mostly involved in menial jobs like begging, hunting or boatman-ship etc. Thus the language is considered so.


Bangali as well as n-Bangali poets composed doha in Abahattha Secular literature was also written in Abahattha. In the 10th century, when Bangla was just developing, there was some rivalry between the two languages. However, poets often wrote in both languages; for example, they composed charyapada in Bangla and doha in Abahattha.

So my point is right, its not a language of commoner.

 

[Kandari-Hushiyaar]

You are a commoner, @Kandari-Hushiyaar please help him to know the meaning if you can.


So my point is right, its not a language of commoner.

You are being very stubborn. The likes of Suniti Kumar Chatterji proved that Charyapad is mainly earlier form of Bengali. Having said that the language used here wont be decipherable for a common people of 21st century. You wont be able to understand all the words of 17th century bengali, let alone 8th century.

The language used here doesnt follow the Grammatical control of Sanskrit, promoted by the bhadroloks of Kolkata. Twilight language , intentionally written to make the religious verse more mysterious is a different thing.

 

[Bilal9]

You are a commoner, @Kandari-Hushiyaar please help him to know the meaning if you can.

Proudly so I might add...

Sharadin coffee-house e boshey adda marley to peter bhat jutbey na dada.

Aajkey kothai Bangladesher economy ar kothai West Bengal....jak e niye are kotha bariye luv nei.

 

[Nilgiri]

Proudly so I might add...

No wonder:

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/the-...er-than-pakistans.536089/page-9#post-10141603

Poor little illegal chitbrain chotolok trying to act rich haha.

Look at what your beggars have to resort to:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...ing-dhaka-dubai-turkey-detained-a7713911.html

 

[Species]

You are being very stubborn. The likes of Suniti Kumar Chatterji proved that Charyapad is mainly earlier form of Bengali. Having said that the language used here wont be decipherable for a common people of 21st century. You wont be able to understand all the words of 17th century bengali, let alone 8th century.

The language used here doesnt follow the Grammatical control of Sanskrit, promoted by the bhadroloks of Kolkata. Twilight language , intentionally written to make the religious verse more mysterious is a different thing.

I bet Suniti Kumar Chatterji is not even heard by 99% West Bengalis since he was one of those linguists who proved Bengali doesn't have direct Sanskrit origin. I tried to explain this to some West Bengali (not sure real or not) in this forum and yet he was not convinced rather discarded him as an unreliable reference.

 

[itsanufy]

You are being very stubborn. The likes of Suniti Kumar Chatterji proved that Charyapad is mainly earlier form of Bengali. Having said that the language used here wont be decipherable for a common people of 21st century. You wont be able to understand all the words of 17th century bengali, let alone 8th century.

The language used here doesnt follow the Grammatical control of Sanskrit, promoted by the bhadroloks of Kolkata. Twilight language , intentionally written to make the religious verse more mysterious is a different thing.

Proudly so I might add...

Sharadin coffee-house e boshey adda marley to peter bhat jutbey na dada.

Aajkey kothai Bangladesher economy ar kothai West Bengal....jak e niye are kotha bariye luv nei.

You are being very stubborn. The likes of Suniti Kumar Chatterji proved that Charyapad is mainly earlier form of Bengali. Having said that the language used here wont be decipherable for a common people of 21st century. You wont be able to understand all the words of 17th century bengali, let alone 8th century.

The language used here doesnt follow the Grammatical control of Sanskrit, promoted by the bhadroloks of Kolkata. Twilight language , intentionally written to make the religious verse more mysterious is a different thing.

For your information charyapad is a must in our syllabus. We learn these mystical dohars a a part of our study of Bengali literature.

Mr Suniti Kumar Chatterji never proved that it was an earlier form of Bengali, he suggested it. Whereas the scholars from other states have their view.

You people has no idea what charyapad is all about. Even you are telling charyapad was some form of Sanskrit. My god. Now one question, can any of the Bangladeshis name the oldest book of Bengali Literature?

Still we are debating about the original carriers of Bengali Language. It was Kolkata, it is Kolkata and will be Kolkata.

@Bilal9, you are right, you need to spend more time for work than spending in PDF. I know your love for coffee and that of a Rs 250 coffee in Dacca cafe which is very common with commoners in Dacca.

It is useless comparing WB and Bangladesh. Still loads of Bangladeshis coming to Kolkata for Medical treatment every day, I will say you are economically advanced when you have proper, economic medical care back home.

I bet Suniti Kumar Chatterji is not even heard by 99% West Bengalis since he was one of those linguists who proved Bengali doesn't have direct Sanskrit origin. I tried to explain this to some West Bengali (not sure real or not) in this forum and yet he was not convinced rather discarded him as an unreliable reference.

I am Impressed, you people know about Mr Chatterjee.
But you missed "at least 25% of the words came from Sanskrit(Tatsama and Ardha-Tatsama) and 67% indirectly corrupted from it( Tadbhava)". So it sums up to 92%. Rest 8% are indigenous or videshi word.
Long story short, yes Bengali is derived from Sanskrit... not directly but in a way.

 

[Bilal9]

Still loads of Bangladeshis coming to Kolkata for Medical treatment every day

How can they resist? The medical treatment in Calcutta is designed around your Calcutta salaries which is minuscule compared to those of Dhaka (therefore almost half as cheap as in Dhaka). They come to treat in Calcutta because medical treatment is CHEAP.

You make it sound like Calcutta is the advanced medical science center of the universe and you are giving these Bangladeshis charity medical care.

I have seen both places. Your sad-sack back-dated Calcutta hospitals would fold up shop tomorrow if Bangladeshi medical tourists (mostly lower class) stopped coming, I doubt you have the gonads to stop it since business interests are involved. And if you did (like it seems with your lamba chowra baat) then what would you eat?

Customer is always right.

No hard feelings dada. I suggest you petition the Indian govt. at this very moment to stop this medical tourism to India by Bangladeshis since you Calcutta folks hate it so much.

So Bangladeshis can take their medical tourism to someplace they are appreciated. Like Thailand and Singapore.

 

[Species]

Still we are debating about the original carriers of Bengali Language. It was Kolkata, it is Kolkata and will be Kolkata.

Even the prime institution to promote Bengali language in West Bengal, the Paschimbongo Bangla Akademy, was built on the model of Bangla Academy in Dhaka, enough said.

You can always tell yourself otherwise to soothe yourself.