The course India has chosen will lead to its own destruction - DG ISPR

[ASKardar]

DG ISPR Maj Gen Asif Ghafoor pointed out that the Indian army chief should stop threatening Pakistan and end oppression and brutality in Occupied Kashmir. He said the Indian army knows the capability of the Pakistan Army and it has been defeated on several occasions.

He said the Pakistan Armed Forces shot down two Indian jets and captured a pilot. “We released the Indian pilot as a good gesture for promoting peace."

He said, “We defeated terrorism in our country." The DG ISPR said, “The Pakistan Armed Forces know how to defend the country."

 

[SIPRA]

Although the topic was altogether different, but DG(ISPR) carved out an opportunity to screw "Bharat Mata", as well.

"Mogambo Khush Hua"

 

[graphican]

DGISPR teaching new Indian Army Chief. Hope Indians are thankful for a free lesson from the boss!

 

[SIPRA]

He must be on PDF. Half his comments read same as PDF delusions.

The delusions and fantasies, of Indian posters, on PDF, are also reflected in the statements of your civilian and military leaders; so perhaps all or most of them would also be members of PDF.

 

[Maarkhoor]

He must be on PDF. Half his comments read same as PDF delusions.

Protest Again.....

 

[Protest_again]

The delusions and fantasies, of Indian posters, on PDF, are also reflected in the statements of your civilian and military leaders; so perhaps all or most of them would also be members of PDF.

Lol. Not really. You are just saying for the sake of saying. Because our civilian and military leadership has been pretty bold than we could ever be on PDF.

 

[N.Siddiqui]

Modi, Yogi and Amit Shah must be doing something great for India the reason Pakistan is against them...thought there.

Reverse Psychology: If Pak praised Modi then this might be thought as something doubtful and there must be something wrong there in India.

Never interrupts when your enemy is making a mistake, there the fault lines in India are all wide open now and threatening, between the RSS, Sangh Parivar bigots and the educated seculars, between Hindus and Muslims, between regions and states and in linguistic divide there.

 

[Protest_again]

Modi, Yogi and Amit Shah must be doing something great for India the reason Pakistan is against them...thought there.

Reverse Psychology: If Pak praised Modi then this might be thought as something doubtful and there must be something wrong there in India.

Never interrupts when your enemy is making a mistake, there the fault lines in India are all wide open now and threatening, between the RSS, Sangh Parivar bigots and the educated seculars, between Hindus and Muslims, between regions and states and in linguistic divide there.

That divide was always there. Indian nationalists (read rightists) are winning anyway. Leftists can do nothing but protest. Come next elections, the trio is going to win again.

 

[Lincoln]

He must be on PDF. Half his comments read same as PDF delusions.

Fact 1. We have defeated terrorism.

Fact 2. Pakistan did come out on top, clearly, according to every source, in the February skirmishes.

Fact 3. Pakistan has defeated India on several occasions.

Fact 4. This isn't something only said by people on this forum. Former ISI chief himself stated that if Modi comes to power, Pakistan has to simply sit back and watch, a fairly old prediction. India's strength lies in Unity, not in polarization and balkanization. What Modi is doing is upsetting 15% of the population, as well majorities of 3 significant regions in India.

 

[Protest_again]

Fact 1. We have defeated terrorism.

Fact 2. Pakistan did come out on top, clearly, according to every source, in the February skirmishes.

Fact 3. Pakistan has defeated India on several occasions.

Fact 4. This isn't something only said by people on this forum. Former ISI chief himself stated that if Modi comes to power, Pakistan has to simply sit back and watch, a fairly old prediction. India's strength lies in Unity, not in polarization and balkanization. What Modi is doing is upsetting 15% of the population, as well majorities of 3 significant regions in India.

Fact 1: Imran said some 30000 odd terrorists are still residing in Pakistan. They may not be dangerous for you but to the world they are.

Fact 2: India didn't escalate it beyond skirmish. It's only on PDF that a country that doesn't have $10 billion in forex dream of winning against India. Thank your heavens it was election time in India.

Fact 3: Absolute rubbish. Prove otherwise.

Fact 4: no body cares what former ISI chief thinks. If India has alienated 15% of population, then they can change that through their vote in the next election. If they can't, they just have to adjust to new reality. Balkanization? Lol. Except for couple of minor states, muslims are not even 20% of population in any state. And most of them know their hindu neighbor better than next state Muslim. Not all are agitating against CAA.

So all in all, you can dream. But India is just getting stronger.

 

[Lincoln]

Fact 1: Imran said some 30000 odd terrorists are still residing in Pakistan. They may not be dangerous for you but to the world they are.

Fact 2: India didn't escalate it beyond skirmish. It's only on PDF that a country that doesn't have $10 billion in forex dream of winning against India. Thank your heavens it was election time in India.

Fact 3: Absolute rubbish. Prove otherwise.

Fact 4: no body cares what former ISI chief thinks. If India has alienated 15% of population, then they can change that through their vote in the next election. If they can't, they just have to adjust to new reality. Balkanization? Lol. Except for couple of minor states, muslims are not even 20% of population in any state. And most of them know their hindu neighbor better than next state Muslim. Not all are agitating against CAA.

So all in all, you can dream. But India is just getting stronger.

1. Zarb e Azb, terrorism practically ended. Radd ul Fasad, silent cells and supporters are being purged. Terrorism has practically been ended in Pakistan.

2. Here comes the "Oh, we spares you, yada yada." How nice of you guys to throw your self respect down the trash to spare us, then go on a mass information campaign about how you guys won the skirmish. Spare us the bullshit, how about that.

3. This is something you will never agree with, because you believe in a different version of events. Leave it be.

4. You can say nobody cares, I am just pointing out it isn't made up on this forum. This prediction was long back. And that's the thing, 15% of population can't do shit in elections, this is exactly why Jinnah gave us Pakistan, he knew democracy in India would be a farce for Muslims since Hindus would be in a significant majority. You say a couple of minor states. Really? Kashmir is small state? Assam is small state? UP is small state? How many Muslims do you think appreciate this CAA, NRC, or Babri verdict, get real, retard. Usually social media is the voice of the liberal, secular and the sane. But extremist Indians, specially on TOI, on BJP twitter feeds, are calling Muslims Jihadis, calling for their extermination, praising the police for beating them and asking police to plunder more and shoot them.
Wait for an International group to conduct a survey. We will see how many Muslims are happy. You liar.

 

[Protest_again]

1. Zarb e Azb, terrorism practically ended. Radd ul Fasad, silent cells and supporters are being purged. Terrorism has practically been ended in Pakistan.

2. Here comes the "Oh, we spares you, yada yada." How nice of you guys to throw your self respect down the trash to spare us, then go on a mass information campaign about how you guys won the skirmish. Spare us the bullshit, how about that.

3. This is something you will never agree with, because you believe in a different version of events. Leave it be.

4. You can say nobody cares, I am just pointing out it isn't made up on this forum. This prediction was long back. And that's the thing, 15% of population can't do shit in elections, this is exactly why Jinnah gave us Pakistan, he knew democracy in India would be a farce for Muslims since Hindus would be in a significant majority. You say a couple of minor states. Really? Kashmir is small state? Assam is small state? UP is small state? How many Muslims do you think appreciate this CAA, NRC, or Babri verdict, get real, retard. Usually social media is the voice of the liberal, secular and the sane. But extremist Indians, specially on TOI, on BJP twitter feeds, are calling Muslims Jihadis, calling for their extermination, praising the police for beating them and asking police to plunder more and shoot them.
Wait for an International group to conduct a survey. We will see how many Muslims are happy. You liar.

Okay, I'll put it in simpler words. Indian minorities are protected by Indian constitution. GOI cannot make laws affecting them. If there is a grievance, they can take it to courts not do vandalism on streets.

In terms of population, both Jammu and Kashmir, Assam are minor. UP is peculiar but they can't fu$k with Yogi there. Indian electoral system is based on majoritarian vote. You dont like it, tough luck.

Muslims generally dislike modi, it was true in 2014 as it true today. They make not be happy, of course. But the question is what they can do about it, except for voting against the BJP enmasse. But Hindu vote is also consolidating for BJP. Whoever is agitating against CAA, they'll be agitating against the constitution (law of the land). Peaceful protest is fine. No body is bothered if you want to loose your earning for the day. But get yourself involved in vandalism then full constitutional machinery will be upon you. No courts will protect you.

Democracy world over is majoritarian.Look at Netherlands. It is not unique to India. Believe me, no one in the world would be bothered about what Modi is doing to muslims except for leftist media. Even Modi won't bother about world opinion as long as his vote bank stays with him. And It is only increasing. Don't form your opinion on what you see in news articles. Same news organizations predicted defeat (actually worked for his defeat tirelessly), yet he came back with even bigger mandate than before. Majority of Indians actually support CAA. Those who don't are just violent, and have access to leftist media. NDTV, Print, Wire, Scroll, Quint will tell you there is a wave of protests in India.Lol. Reality is they were all once part of Khan Market gang, who got they asses handed to them by Modi, hence the vitriol. INDIANS know that, you'll learn in time. India is marching on.

But before you go on preaching us, why not make your country secular and show our Indian muslims (and other minorities), how great your country's laws are for minorities. For now, Indian Muslims would much rather live in our country with us Hindus than venture and ask for your help. That must tell you something. That is 'mind your business'.

 

[Lincoln]

Okay, I'll put it in simpler words. Indian minorities are protected by Indian constitution. GOI cannot make laws affecting them. If there is a grievance, they can take it to courts not do vandalism on streets.

In terms of population, both Jammu and Kashmir, Assam are minor. UP is peculiar but they can't fu$k with Yogi there. Indian electoral system is based on majoritarian vote. You dont like it, tough luck.

Muslims generally dislike modi, it was true in 2014 as it true today. They make not be happy, of course. But the question is what they can do about it, except for voting against the BJP enmasse. But Hindu vote is also consolidating for BJP. Whoever is agitating against CAA, they'll be agitating against the constitution (law of the land). Peaceful protest is fine. No body is bothered if you want to loose your earning for the day. But get yourself involved in vandalism then full constitutional machinery will be upon you. No courts will protect you.

Democracy world over is majoritarian.Look at Netherlands. It is not unique to India. Believe me, no one in the world would be bothered about what Modi is doing to muslims except for leftist media. Even Modi won't bother about world opinion as long as his vote bank stays with him. And It is only increasing. Don't form your opinion on what you see in news articles. Same news organizations predicted defeat (actually worked for his defeat tirelessly), yet he came back with even bigger mandate than before. Majority of Indians actually support CAA. Those who don't are just violent, and have access to leftist media. NDTV, Print, Wire, Scroll, Quint will tell you there is a wave of protests in India.Lol. Reality is they were all once part of Khan Market gang, who got they asses handed to them by Modi, hence the vitriol. INDIANS know that, you'll learn in time. India is marching on.

But before you go on preaching us, why not make your country secular and show our Indian muslims (and other minorities), how great your country's laws are for minorities. For now, Indian Muslims would much rather live in our country with us Hindus than venture and ask for your help. That must tell you something. That is 'mind your business'.

1. On paper, minorities are even safe in Pakistan . You have to see how practically applied it is... not a lot in practice.

2. Constitution is not, never will be divine. The only constitution I envisage as divine is the one desired by founding fathers of the country, but even that's subject to change. Saying you don't respect the constitution, or don't like it, and wanting it to be changed is not against the law.

3. Peaceful protest is no longer an option if the Government refuses to listen.

4. Why would I need news articles when you can see it all in videos. Wrong is wrong. You have yet to answer about the rightedt comments on TOI, atleast the leftists aren't violent against a group.

5. World is concerned, otherwise India wouldn't have felt the need to contact others over its "internal matter" (double quotation because human rights violations are never an internal matter).

6. Pakistan is 90% secular by law. And we don't want them either here. They're patriotic indians, but your government has no respect for them.

 

[Protest_again]

1. On paper, minorities are even safe in Pakistan . You have to see how practically applied it is... not a lot in practice.

2. Constitution is not, never will be divine. The only constitution I envisage as divine is the one desired by founding fathers of the country, but even that's subject to change. Saying you don't respect the constitution, or don't like it, and wanting it to be changed is not against the law.

3. Peaceful protest is no longer an option if the Government refuses to listen.

4. Why would I need news articles when you can see it all in videos. Wrong is wrong. You have yet to answer about the rightedt comments on TOI, atleast the leftists aren't violent against a group.

5. World is concerned, otherwise India wouldn't have felt the need to contact others over its "internal matter" (double quotation because human rights violations are never an internal matter).

6. Pakistan is 90% secular by law. And we don't want them either here. They're patriotic indians, but your government has no respect for them.

In India, Constitution is supreme. Not like in UK. Where constitution derives its power from parliament here it is the other way around. The parliament itself derives its power from constitution. Hence parliament itself has limitation when it come to amending the constitution. Read up 'basic structure' of the constitution of India. Legislation can only amend what is legally their jurisdiction in the constitution. Otherwise Supreme court will strike it down.

So even if BJP wanted a Hindu rastra, it can't legally. Since being secular is part of basic structure of Indian constitution. Indian muslims can be against BJP but they can't be against the constitution. If BJP as majority party decide on some policies and pass some legislation, and this legislation passes the review of supreme court (which examines whether such law conforms with the spirit of constitution), then no body can do anything about it until the next govt (when in power) abrogate it. It is unlikely that is going to happen before next election.

Your expectation that Indian muslims would react by taking up arms against the state is absurd. Then they'll just play into the hands of BJP. President rule will be imposed. Federal character of the government will become a unitary one (all state governments stand abolished). Its Modi rajya through out the country. Since majority support the bill, those who are opposing face police action. In worst case scenario, there could be civil war, and but that will be even worse for muslims since resulting nation could be out and out Hindu Rasthra.

Your expectation that muslims will carve out a separate state for themselves is hilarious. Instead Muslims will be isolated with no support forth coming. Even the liberals among Hindus would not support a division, Lol. Also, given muslims through out the country are not uniform. They speak a local language and have similar aspirations as his Hindu/Christian neighbor. A South Muslim will not follow a leader from UP asking for separation. I am pretty sure more than half the muslims would actually deride him. If Jinnah couldn't do it, what the heck can a local leader do? This time other Indians will not be so accommodating about division, Lol.

So all in all, muslims have it well in the present constitution and they do so well to preserve that.

 

[Lasit Borphukan]

Okay, I'll put it in simpler words. Indian minorities are protected by Indian constitution. GOI cannot make laws affecting them. If there is a grievance, they can take it to courts not do vandalism on streets.

In terms of population, both Jammu and Kashmir, Assam are minor. UP is peculiar but they can't fu$k with Yogi there. Indian electoral system is based on majoritarian vote. You dont like it, tough luck.

Muslims generally dislike modi, it was true in 2014 as it true today. They make not be happy, of course. But the question is what they can do about it, except for voting against the BJP enmasse. But Hindu vote is also consolidating for BJP. Whoever is agitating against CAA, they'll be agitating against the constitution (law of the land). Peaceful protest is fine. No body is bothered if you want to loose your earning for the day. But get yourself involved in vandalism then full constitutional machinery will be upon you. No courts will protect you.

Democracy world over is majoritarian.Look at Netherlands. It is not unique to India. Believe me, no one in the world would be bothered about what Modi is doing to muslims except for leftist media. Even Modi won't bother about world opinion as long as his vote bank stays with him. And It is only increasing. Don't form your opinion on what you see in news articles. Same news organizations predicted defeat (actually worked for his defeat tirelessly), yet he came back with even bigger mandate than before. Majority of Indians actually support CAA. Those who don't are just violent, and have access to leftist media. NDTV, Print, Wire, Scroll, Quint will tell you there is a wave of protests in India.Lol. Reality is they were all once part of Khan Market gang, who got they asses handed to them by Modi, hence the vitriol. INDIANS know that, you'll learn in time. India is marching on.

But before you go on preaching us, why not make your country secular and show our Indian muslims (and other minorities), how great your country's laws are for minorities. For now, Indian Muslims would much rather live in our country with us Hindus than venture and ask for your help. That must tell you something. That is 'mind your business'.

dude your views are myopic and limited to what RSS/bhakts want you to believe.

"Most of the Indians support CAA" - I am sure these most of the "Indians" are not just living in RSS nagpur office. Go to North East and see how many Indians are supporting CAA. Dont just gallop everything you are told at the RSS sakhas