The Chattanooga Shootings: Can Attacking Military Sites of a Nation at War be “Terrorism”?

[doppelganger]

@Jango sir

Oldman does have a point no?

APS was attacked because they were fauji kids.

And your fauj was carrying out operations against these guys at the time (I forget the name of the campaign).

Isn't that what he's pointing out to?

 

[Jango]

@Jango sir

Oldman does have a point no?

APS was attacked because they were fauji kids.

And your fauj was carrying out operations against these guys at the time (I forget the name of the campaign).

Isn't that what he's pointing out to?

He is drawing parallels b/w military installations and a school...that ain't fair game is it?

 

[Oldman1]

So much for the person who calls APS a military installation and thinks ROTC like courses are run there.

Why is it called Army Public School?

 

[doppelganger]

He is drawing parallels b/w military installations and a school...that ain't fair game is it?

No of course not.

But was US nuking two Japanese cities fair game?

 

[Oldman1]

He is drawing parallels b/w military installations and a school...that ain't fair game is it?

So a recruitment center is a military installation as well? They don't have any weapons on hand.

 

[Jango]

No of course not.

But was US nuking two Japanese cities fair game?

I personally think not.

The world thinks it was!

Oh well, who am I to say.

So a recruitment center is a military installation as well? They don't have any weapons on hand.

I personally think not.

Now where did I say it was?

 

[Oldman1]

I personally think not.

The world thinks it was!

Oh well, who am I to say.

Lets bring back some sensibilities shall we. How about attacks on military bases in Pakistan? Does the Pakistanis and you yourself define it as terrorism? Or just a guerrilla attack?

 

[doppelganger]

Why is it called Army Public School?

Sir in this part of the world, we army brats have special schools because our moms and dads get posted every three years, and oftentimes the posting come mid year and its then impossible for us to get admission into normal schools mid term, so we have army public schools, air force public schools, and kendriya vidyalayas, where army kids get preference.

 

[Jango]

Lets bring back some sensibilities shall we. How about attacks on military bases in Pakistan? Does the Pakistanis and you yourself define it as terrorism? Or just a guerrilla attack?

You see though, your argument (and the OP which is the whole premise of this discussion) does not apply to Pakistan's case. For a couple of reasons.

1- In Pakistan, terrorism's definition is totally different from what the US or the West at large perceives it. The Anti-Terrorism courts in Pakistan also cater to murder cases which have nothing to do with terrorism as you perceive it i.e religious violence.

2- Your definition of terrorism is anything done by a Muslim...

Comparing apples and oranges I believe.

 

[Oldman1]

You see though, your argument (and the OP which is the whole premise of this discussion) does not apply to Pakistan's case. For a couple of reasons.

1- In Pakistan, terrorism's definition is totally different from what the US or the West at large perceives it. The Anti-Terrorism courts in Pakistan also cater to murder cases which have nothing to do with terrorism as you perceive it i.e religious violence.

2- Your definition of terrorism is anything done by a Muslim...

Comparing apples and oranges I believe.

Really? Guess you never heard of Timothy McVeigh for example. What does Pakistan's definition of terrorism applied to in case of attacks on Pakistan's military forces especially at their bases?

 

[Jango]

Really? Guess you never heard of Timothy McVeigh for example. What does Pakistan's definition of terrorism applied to in case of attacks on Pakistan's military forces especially at their bases?

Let's talk about the present day scenario please...

As for the second part...what do you mean? Kindly elaborate.

 

[Oldman1]

Let's talk about the present day scenario please...

As for the second part...what do you mean? Kindly elaborate.

If any Islamic group were to attack a military base causing damage and casualties to Pakistani military, would they be charged with terrorism or just be prisoners of war and not sentenced to death?

Also, I do remember reading something about Muslims who were in prison that were executed by the Pakistan govt. in retaliation for the attack on your school. I believe they were terrorists in your view.

 

[Jango]

If any Islamic group were to attack a military base causing damage and casualties to Pakistani military, would they be charged with terrorism or just be prisoners of war and not sentenced to death?

Also, I do remember reading something about Muslims who were in prison that were executed by the Pakistan govt. in retaliation for the attack on your school. I believe they were terrorists in your view.

Oh yeah, no doubt about that. Were we even arguing this fact?

And let me correct you there, not an "Islamic" group, any group that did that would be charged with terrorism. As has been in the past.

We don't think of terrorism as something done by a Muslim alone or for religious reasons only.

 

[doppelganger]

Oh yeah, no doubt about that. Were we even arguing this fact?

Would you call Baloch militants attacking your military installations terrorists or freedom fighters?

 

[Jango]

Would you call Baloch militants attacking your military installations terrorists or freedom fighters?

Terrorists...

Everyone calls them that...nobody calls them freedom fighters.