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The brave General Raheel Sharif

he he he lagta hai tumhari dukhti rag pakar li hai maine :azn::dance3:

nanhe raj kumar itni kuwatt hai to aao na ek baar fir se is baar poora sood samet hisab le lenge aur wo hashr karenge ki ta qayamat koi hindustan per ankh uthaane ki jurrat nahi karega :butcher:

LOC or working boundry per tumne jo abhi dekha wo to sirk movie ka paoster tha abhi to trailer baaki hai khudda se dua maango ki movie kabhi na dekhni parre tumhhe warna raat to sona to door zinda rehne ke laale per jayenge :butcher:
yar main sirf ek baat kehna chahon ga dono side pay bhio ko kay yar 200 missile hamarey pass hain 180 un kay pass agar chlaney hi hain to phir saray akhty chla den meharbanni kar kay takay na pakistan ka or na hi india ka 1 inch bhi na bchay or yeah kisa hi khtam ho koi south asian hi zanda na choro phir yeah choti moti jang kyu lartay ho ek hi bar main 10 min main kam khatam
 
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No doubt he is successful, brave and best since 1970's. Mushi, Zia, Kiyani all look failed generals infront of him. Therefore, it posses great danger to his reputation and credibility, could be due to professional jealousy. Enemies within launched IK to trap him, things like ''Umpire ki Ungli'' was meant to invite him for Marshal law so people see him in same line of failed generals who violate constitution.
 
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"India wants peace"? but every other day one of their generals comes out with their war bravado against one neighbour or the other.

India can go to war with China,saysVice Chief of Army General Philip

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India wants peace but Pakistan needs to understand that we will not give Kashmir at any cost......

Other than that,if the dialogues can achieve anything such as marking the present border as LoC then we are all up for it .....
if Pakistan wants peace....then they are most welcome......but if not (which is the obvious case) then let the game continue

Let's see who will survive in the long run
 
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I hope we will have more example of General Raheel Sharif in next generations after him, insha'Allah.

Big Salute to his brave and warrior.



Had he been on a beneficial extension or counting his days to retirement, I wouldn’t have expected him to speak out. But he is a man on a mission. Thus far, no military commander has so bluntly and so directly accused the Indian intelligence agency, RAW (it’s usually a veiled reference to ‘foreign governments and intelligence agencies’) of “whipping up terrorism in Pakistan”. This is General Raheel Sharif for you — a very popular military leader, who since the time he has taken over the military leadership, has turned the war on terror on its head with some remarkable military victories against terrorists under his belt already. To showcase his case as a military leader, he is determined to take back what the terrorists stole from his country — peace and tranquillity.

So for the general to accuse RAW of whipping up terrorism in Pakistan, not once but twice (the last time he did this was during his visit to Balochistan on April 15 where he warned “foreign governments and intelligence agencies” against their involvement in the insurgency there) should be seen in line with the policy of the Pakistani government which is “to do everything possible to take the war on terror to its logical conclusion”. RAW and its activities stand out predominantly in the cross hairs of the military’s anti-terrorism sight. It’s marked and like all ‘shadow and invisible wars’ that intelligence agencies fight, the Pakistani military’s twin response of both ‘detection’ and ‘elimination’ of this threat will now not only gain momentum but speed as well.

Over the years, India has successfully built a narrative that it is a victim of Pakistan-sponsored terrorism. It is under the guise of such a narrative that the Indians have tried to block the worldview of their own intelligence agency planning, rolling out and executing terrorism as an instrument of its own state policy to destabilise Pakistan. No intelligence agency will ever undertake any cross-border actions in a neighbouring country without the political approval of its government. The host government not only defines the endpoint in the targeted country but also sets the limits (red lines) to its intelligence agencies’ reach. RAW’s actions in Pakistan have a definite political end and the planners and executors of such an end are not those who wear uniforms but are the people’s representatives who have been voted to power in the largest democracy in the world. Those in doubt of such an assessment can view Indian National Security Adviser Ajit Doval’s remarks almost a year ago about the Indian strategy to weaken Pakistan by promoting terrorism and separatism. The political shame that the planners and executors of such wars bring is that neither these proxy wars can be completely won nor those against which they are waged can be entirely defeated.

Even if I hypothetically assume that the state of Pakistan was involved in the Mumbai tragedy of 2008, what has India been able to do about it? Seven years later, Pakistan is still resolutely fighting to reverse the Indian-recommended, directed and imposed international isolation of Pakistan. The Pakistani national resolve and resilience coupled with an efficient military campaign against the terrorists has forced world opinion to retreat and take a backseat. We may have been accused of keeping ‘snakes in our backyard’ but the same country that levelled these accusations is now giving us the military machine to target these snakes. Our international isolation may top the Indian wish list but China stands with us not only as a partner in economic development but also as a great ally against any security threats that we may face. The warming of our relations with Afghanistan and the fact that now Afghan Army cadets are being trained in the Pakistan Military Academy speaks of the failure of the huge number of Indian consulates in Afghanistan to sell and market their anti-Pakistan narrative to Afghan President Ashraf Ghani. Our cricketers may also have been deprived of participation in the Indian Premier League but we have struggled along to now host Zimbabwe as the first team since 2009 to visit and play international matches in the country. The lesson is for all to see — we may stumble and fall, but we will rise again.

RAW-generated activities stem from the tacit understanding that the harmful consequences of fighting a legitimate war are far too many and what covert actions can achieve today, overt (direct confrontation) cannot. If General Raheel says that “RAW is whipping up terrorism in Pakistan”, it is not with an expectation that such a disclosure will force the Indian intelligence agency to limit its operations in Pakistan. It is to warn India not to provoke a reactive policy from Pakistan as the country will not sit with its hands tied. Pakistan may have withdrawn its policy of actively supporting the Kashmir cause but it still has interest and influence there. India may come to regret provoking a reactive policy by Pakistan. The tit-for-tat response may well be a contingency being considered in this ‘shadow war’ being imposed by the Indians on us. The big question is: is India miscalculating our response? Is Pakistan being considered too weak and too vulnerable a state?

Like militaries, intelligence agencies are never dealt massive defeats. The shadow wars fought by them are always won or lost by following the principle, ‘if you stab our back we will stab yours’. It’s the job of the politicians never to publicly acclaim the achievements of intelligence agencies and it is also their job to publicly disavow all allegations leveled against them. The most important job that Indian politics, led by the Modi government, is failing to do is to settle all outstanding issues with Pakistan through a process of dialogue. The continuity of the policy of fighting proxy wars is a failed policy. Its only eventual outcome can be to put the two countries in direct confrontation. This is something both countries should not desire.
(The writer is a retired lieutenant colonel of the Pakistan Army and is currently pursuing PhD in civil-military relations from the University of Karachi)

The brave General Raheel Sharif - The Express Tribune
 
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yar main sirf ek baat kehna chahon ga dono side pay bhio ko kay yar 200 missile hamarey pass hain 180 un kay pass agar chlaney hi hain to phir saray akhty chla den meharbanni kar kay takay na pakistan ka or na hi india ka 1 inch bhi na bchay or yeah kisa hi khtam ho koi south asian hi zanda na choro phir yeah choti moti jang kyu lartay ho ek hi bar main 10 min main kam khatam
Problem yeh nahin hai keh wo kab, kitne or kahan chala lain.

Problem is that India is the only Hindu State in the World where as Muslim States number 70. If they do get rid of One Muslim State (Pakistan) still they are not going to eliminate all Muslim States where as Hindu would loose India and would also eliminate Hinduism.

If even no other State in the World helps Pakistan's citizens and helps all Hindu people still they would remain as a minority where as Muslims would still remain a majority.

India knows this very well and they have also taken into account the Jew's who had to leave every thing behind. The difference between India and Israel is that when Israel was formed it was only a small country which expanded to the present borders where as India which is huge would have to settle to an area which is negligible.
 
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Killing those assholes who are hiding in mountain by aerial bombing doesn't count for war .....you will have an actual one "if you want one" like the ones we had in 48,65,71,99

really can you bear it, it will hurt india more than pakistan.

Hint: india's economy is about to become the fastest growing in the world.
 
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Blaming RAW without proof also counts for diplomacy and politics
same thing goes for ISI
We are holding it since 47 and we aren't giving it
and u lost more than 30% of it during 48 war. This proves that Kashmir is not ''atooot'' ang. it can be broken.

Drama Queen Raheel Sharif.. Lots of noise but no substance..
hello kid welcome to PDF.

This forum has no place for Childish thoughts and naive arguments

In the past 67 years,we haven't invaded Pakistan even once
So I am all up for peace
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u sure about that? I mean we attacked ''mighty'' India in 65,71,Siachin..............? and now war on terror and its links with India are well known why don't u people prepare your self for a replay shot? Revenge is sweet after all and one sided offensive defense is kind of un realistic. :undecided:
expect back lash.................. and pretty hard one .................. u people have to pay the price of 50000 innocent Pakistani people..................so brace your self :D ...........................
 
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You got it wrong again.....
I am not trying to change your perspective......if you are filled with hatred with wrong notions since your birth then whatever I say is not going to change your perspective.....I know that.......but sometimes someone has to counter the things with arguments....logical argument so that the other people ...the normal ones without hatred either from India or from Pakistan gets to know the truth and doesn't believe this blindly......you need to understand that hatred can do a lot of negative things if you preach it continuously........it never helps

Your arguments are all bogus. And all those "normal" people who don't hate India initially start to hate it after reading your bogus arguments. So you are both wasting your time with you enemies and also making more enemies with presenting them with bogus arguments and lies. You are gaining nothing here for you or your country. It is just your obsession with us despite our hate for you.

he he he lagta hai tumhari dukhti rag pakar li hai maine :azn::dance3:

nanhe raj kumar itni kuwatt hai to aao na ek baar fir se is baar poora sood samet hisab le lenge aur wo hashr karenge ki ta qayamat koi hindustan per ankh uthaane ki jurrat nahi karega :butcher:

LOC or working boundry per tumne jo abhi dekha wo to sirk movie ka paoster tha abhi to trailer baaki hai khudda se dua maango ki movie kabhi na dekhni parre tumhhe warna raat to sona to door zinda rehne ke laale per jayenge :butcher:

Parhi to yeh post bhi nahi main laikin main phr wohi kahon ga jo pehlai kaha tha. Aagia barh aur kisi bengali ya nepali kai samain dhamkian dai. Yeh geedar dhamkian hum par koi asar nahi karteen. Chal aagai bhar ab. Kisi aur ko ja kar chooran baich. Hum Pakistani to apni karain gai aur baar baar karain ga chahai tu kitna hi rota rahai hamarai forums par aa kar.:)
 
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Your arguments are all bogus. And all those "normal" people who don't hate India initially start to hate it after reading your bogus arguments. So you are both wasting your time with you enemies and also making more enemies with presenting them with bogus arguments and lies. You are gaining nothing here for you or your country. It is just your obsession with us despite our hate for you.



Parhi to yeh post bhi nahi main laikin main phr wohi kahon ga jo pehlai kaha tha. Aagia barh aur kisi bengali ya nepali kai samain dhamkian dai. Yeh geedar dhamkian hum par koi asar nahi karteen. Chal aagai bhar ab. Kisi aur ko ja kar chooran baich. Hum Pakistani to apni karain gai aur baar baar karain ga chahai tu kitna hi rota rahai hamarai forums par aa kar.:)
Like dont insult Nepalis,

These indians have gurkha regiment i guess. How these ppl swear by their bravery nd show so much confidence in their fighting bravado that u wonuldnt see themshowing that confidence in their local indian armymen
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Once i was reading a thread on kargil war on some forum and guess what an indian was saying, gurkhas are so brave that they fought ur men bravely on kargil peaks and so and so.

I was like,......dayummmmm cud someone be so dumb, like u are accepting that pak army is so strong n rugged that u are ur bestest men were fighting them. And guess what the bestest men arent even indian men they are nepali gurkha mercenaries. Now indians will quickly come and say there are 200,000 gurkhas already living in india so they are indians etc etc non sense.

We made our point. Lolz.
 
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Killing those assholes who are hiding in mountain by aerial bombing doesn't count for war .....you will have an actual one "if you want one" like the ones we had in 48,65,71,99

Hi,

You missed the opportunity in 2008---. Uncle Sam is not behind you anymore----. With more than 50% of su30 fleet in the shop---there is not much you can do accept to become the laughing stock of the world----.

Remember---if you beat us----what is the world going to say---beat up on the little guy----okay---.

But what if we gave you a thrashing---you will be the laughing stock of the world for ages----all your investment gone---.

When Pakistani politicians used to say---we will break the enemy's jaw---or snap the eyes out---I used to say " please God---get rid of these morons for us---they have no clue what they are talking about "---.

Now----you have politicians on your side doing the same---.

If you do some research---you will find out that your military does not even have ammunition to fight a war for two weeks---. Your military readiness status is in a terrible state right now----.
 
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^read above post indians
You have lost the war against us.

Sorry indians but u cant win any war against us in this janam.

you can console ur hearts by making bollywood movies like border where ur hero jumps down the helicopter from the height of 18000 feet and lands on enemies ammunition dump. The impact of landing is so strong it destroys all mortars,shells entire depot and then the hero walks out of it unscratched then jumps on a tank ,does a dance number whilst the enemy sitting inside the tanks is aiming the rifle canons right at his head. And hero is dodging the shots. Then he twists rifle barrel in enemies direction and somehow this time the shot hits the tank itself and destroys it (twisted barrel but stilll...), then the hero produces a parachutes from somewhr. Normal parachutes work from heigths to ground , this is reversed one , it opens up on ground and goes up in air taking the hero to his territory ,oh and btw did i mention on his parachute flight he also air lifts an injured friend carries him on shoulder and lands back in safety zone.
 
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false bravado aside, Pakistanis should be really concerned. If their commanding general is unable to see things objectively and lets his personal animosity towards India borne out of losing his brother in the 1971 war that Pakistan's own leadership made, force him to babble such inanity as blaming RAW ...it means two things at a minimum:

1) he is immature
2) he in incapable, has now recognized it and is beginning create excuses for failure

and a 3rd and bigger point is proven but I don't think Pakistanis care about that sort of things anymore - namely, the military chief has dropped even the pretense of reporting to the civilian government. In effect a coup has been made and the civilians have been allowed to occupy seats.
 
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false bravado aside, Pakistanis should be really concerned. If their commanding general is unable to see things objectively and lets his personal animosity towards India borne out of losing his brother in the 1971 war that Pakistan's own leadership made, force him to babble such inanity as blaming RAW ...it means two things at a minimum:

1) he is immature
2) he in incapable, has now recognized it and is beginning create excuses for failure


and a 3rd and bigger point is proven but I don't think Pakistanis care about that sort of things anymore - namely, the military chief has dropped even the pretense of reporting to the civilian government. In effect a coup has been made and the civilians have been allowed to occupy seats.
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