The Bengal paradox

[GURU DUTT]

I can't explain in words how wrong you are, what superiority complex mere Bhai? what hatred against hindi speakers? U ever been to Bengal? lol we are lazyass fish lovers, we don't even hate Bangladeshis how can we hate our fellow Indians? darru zyada charha liya hai apne gurubhai I respect u a lot please don't come up with this kind of outrageous statements. We fought and bleed for India, if need arise will do that again along with other Indians. heck we don't even have a ethno nationalist party like shiv sena how can u say we look down upon other Indians?

bhai most of my extended family (marwaries) lived in bengal and then came CPI & mumtaz begum trust me i know what i was talking about most of bengalies whome i met in my childhood in calcutta use to look down(they thought bengalies were more culturred and had a class while we marwaries onli had money) upon us and use to say names on owr face but then its another story .... no hard feelings.. cheers mate

 

[bongbang]

We were potent enough to produce a whole country called Bangladesh, and you are doubting our ability to produce kids!!

Son BD was always there like India. BD is as much child of Indira Gandhi as India is to the British, Bangladeshis and Pakistanis.

On topic: Irrespective of the literacy level, maybe rural Bengal is socially enlightened enough to understand the benefits of lesser number of kids. Communist governments generally perform well in social awareness schemes.

Dont lie Bengal's lower fertilty rate is due to migration towards other states, poor man.

You are Indian and we gonna merge you in later

Spoiler: yes

Economically

Sure in PDF

 

[Nilgiri]

Dont lie Bengal's lower fertilty rate is due to migration towards other states, poor man.

You don't understand what fertility rate means do you?

 

[ni8mare]

Dont lie Bengal's lower fertilty rate is due to migration towards other states, poor man.

fertilty rate dont depends on the migration

 

[bongbang]

You don't understand what fertility rate means do you?

After certain amounts of times there will be headcounts. If previous year there was 100 people and this year 99 migrated. 1 remaining produced 100, so the fertility rate will be 100 or 0? If working couples in a bulk number move to other areas. Then there will be population deficiency to begin with to get the fertilty rate in comparison to previous year. Whole country like BD and India can give an accurate figure but not the states.

 

[AUSTERLITZ]

TFR has nothing to do with migration....or increase in population

@MilSpec @AUSTERLITZ @ oke kichu negative raring didle hoye na ..or negative rating ekdom clean

He's a little man.Why bother?

 

[Nilgiri]

After certain amounts of times there will be headcounts. If previous year there was 100 people and this year 99 migrated. 1 remaining produced 100, so the fertility rate will be 100 or 0?

You are confusing fertility rate with population growth rate. TFR is simply the expected number of children an average woman will bear in her entire lifetime if present conditions continue and she lives out her full reproductive life (normally 15 - 49 years of age)

It is similar to life expectancy in that regard.

It doesn't matter if this Bengali woman moves to Botswana or Brazil later in life...or a woman from Bangladesh comes to west bengal....TFR only looks at the current snapshot and tells you if the snapshot is held in perpetuity, the number of children that the average woman will have is whatever number.

When it is below 2.1 it is below replacement fertility.

Migration is a whole different thing altogether. A Bengali woman migrating elsewhere has no bearing on her current expected value of number of children.....since it is a figure for lifetime "ceterus paribus" "holding things constant"

Total Fertility rate is normally estimated (it cannot be directly measured since it is an expected value and not a raw one...similar to how mortality can be measured but life expectancy can only be estimated).

If working couples in a bulk number move to other areas. Then there will be population deficiency to begin with to get the fertilty rate in comparison to previous year. Whole country like BD and India can give an accurate figure but not the states.

Again net migration has no bearing on TFR which is a current "snapshot"....looking at summing up of the various age specific fertility rates.

Whether we talk about States or Countries, they are simply cohorts of population experiencing the exact same phenomenon whether it be births, deaths and net migrations.

In this context we are looking from the State residency perspective rather than State-origin perspective. So someone living with West Bengal is counted but a West Bengali in another state is not (in the snap shot). Similar to the difference between GDP and GNP.

 

[ni8mare]

After certain amounts of times there will be headcounts. If previous year there was 100 people and this year 99 migrated. 1 remaining produced 100, so the fertility rate will be 100 or 0? If working couples in a bulk number move to other areas. Then there will be population deficiency to begin with to get the fertilty rate in comparison to previous year. Whole country like BD and India can give an accurate figure but not the states.

let me reqoute what @Nilgiri said

You don't understand what fertility rate means do you?

 

[dray]

bhai most of my extended family (marwaries) lived in bengal and then came CPI & mumtaz begum trust me i know what i was talking about most of bengalies whome i met in my childhood in calcutta use to look down(they thought bengalies were more culturred and had a class while we marwaries onli had money) upon us and use to say names on owr face but then its another story .... no hard feelings.. cheers mate

That was out of jealousy, not superiority complex. Many Indians also brag about their culture to the much more rich west.

 

[Samudra Manthan]

where the hell did you get that garbage from? Please do not promote such ridiculous divisive concoctions on a public forum. Indian Bengalis have been always been as patriotic as any other, there contribution to the social fabric of India has been equal as any other. There exists no such superiority complex that you claim.

Weren't you the guy who asked Patriotism kis bazaar mein milta hai?

 

[MilSpec]

Weren't you the guy who asked Patriotism kis bazaar mein milta hai?

sarcasm and context.

 

[Samudra Manthan]

sarcasm and context.

It was neither sarcasm nor out of context. It was nothing more than a bong expressing his disdain for India.

 

[MilSpec]

It was neither sarcasm nor out of context. It was nothing more than a bong expressing his disdain for India.

Please point to one such post. I challenge to you point to one post of my disdain towards my own country....

 

[Samudra Manthan]

Please point to one such post. I challenge to you point to one post of my disdain towards my own country....

I have pointed it out to you before and we have debated the issue. Right now I do not remember your previous ID Sandy something and am not going to spend my time searching for it. It was a Bong's specialty here looking down on India.

 

[MilSpec]

I have pointed it out to you before and we have debated the issue. Right now I do not remember your previous ID Sandy something and am not going to spend my time searching for it. It was a Bong's specialty here looking down on India.

This it probably the first time I'm ever interacting with you since you joined a few months ago... unless ofcourse this is another one of your ID's.... And you can keep bengali bashing to yourself... only bigots here would run such divisive agendas of looking down upon their own countrymen.