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The Battle for Bajaur - PA seizes control

Ahmed Humayun's comments are spot-on if late.

He should be sued for plagarizing this thread and related posts elsewhere here at def.pk.

We've been WAAAAY out front on these observations-

conventional battle against a dug-in enemy, 300,000 refugees with winter onsetting, need for immediate, tangible, and visible civil reconstruction. All of it.

We're so smart.:P
 
ASIA PACIFIC
Date Posted: 09-Dec-2008

Jane's Defence Weekly

NATO, Afghanistan and Pakistan build border co-operation

Trefor Moss JDW Asia-Pacific Editor - London

Co-operation between NATO and Afghan forces and their counterparts in the Pakistani military is beginning to bear fruit, according to a senior officer with NATO's International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) in Afghanistan.

ISAF has long identified the lack of cross-border co-ordination as a handicap when it comes to tackling the Taliban, whose fighters use the Afghan-Pakistani border to their tactical advantage by attacking ISAF forces inside Afghanistan only to escape into Pakistan and so avoid reprisals.

However, Captain Benjamin Brink, ISAF's officer in charge at the tripartite Joint Intelligence and Operations Centre (JIOC) - a Kabul-based facility staffed by Afghan, ISAF and Pakistani officers - said on 8 December that co-operation between the three militaries "has improved greatly over the past year".

He added: "There is a real feeling of co-operation and we're beginning to feel that we're seeing some success here."

ISAF and Afghan National Army (ANA) troops have been supporting Pakistan Army operations in Pakistan's Federally Administered Tribal Areas (FATA), he explained, by blocking the passes that lead out of the FATA's Khyber agency into Afghanistan. Called Operation 'Lionheart', this blocking tactic has succeeded in inhibiting the militants' movements, Capt Brink explained.

Improved communication has also yielded results in Afghanistan's Paktika province and North and South Waziristan: two more FATA agencies.

Capt Brink said: "There's been cross-border firing and there's been co-operation with the Pakistanis to locate where that firing's been coming from. And that's been very successful; we have seen a significant drop-off there."

The hub for co-operation around the Khyber Pass since its operational inception in August has been the Khyber Border Co-ordination Centre (KBCC) at Torkham in Nangahar: the first of a series of such centres set to be established along the border. However, none of the other five BCCs planned for Regional Command East are yet online, despite an original schedule, outlined by ISAF to Jane's in May, for all six to be operational by the end of 2008.

Instead, Capt Brink revealed that the second BCC was due to by operational by April at the Lawara Pass to the north of Torkham, with the remaining four BCCs opening later in 2009 or 2010. Discussions on the establishment of BCCs in Regional Command South were only just under way, he added.

However, he expressed confidence that the KBCC was proving a highly successful model for the subsequent centres, describing a "watch floor" peopled by officers from ISAF, the ANA, the Afghan Border Police, the Pakistani military and Pakistan's Frontier Corps.

"They resolve issues, co-ordinate movements, intelligence feeds come in and are shared," Capt Brink said. "It's been very successful so far in terms of improving co-operation."

© 2009 Jane's Information Group
 
AP IMPACT: Pakistan offensive shows slow success
SABAGAI, Pakistan – From atop a craggy hillock, the silver-haired Lt. Col. Javed Baloch gestures toward a small black opening in a sandstone outcropping. It's the mouth of a cave.

Two minutes later a powerful explosion rattles the hillock, and a massive plume of grayish-white smoke rushes skyward.

Cave by cave, the Pakistani army is trying to blow up the underground labyrinth running from tribal areas toward the border with Afghanistan to keep militants away.

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This is the front line of Pakistan's battle against militants on its own soil. The three-month-old offensive is the country's most aggressive effort to date, countering U.S. and Afghan charges that it is not doing enough to root out Taliban and al-Qaida fighters who crisscross the border. It is also the Pakistani military's first foray into the Bajur region, where militants are dug in and have in places set up a parallel administration.

An Associated Press team traveled with the Pakistani military deep into a tribal area late last month, almost to the Afghan border. The operation shows the army can put pressure on militants and even wrest some territory back from them, but it may never be able to drive them out from a rugged area of nooks and crannies. More militants are already sneaking in from Afghanistan as reinforcements, and U.S. troops in Afghanistan have installed 68 motion sensors along the border to try to detect them.
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The battle is for Bajur, a key base and transit route for Arab and other foreign militants headed for Afghanistan. Here a CIA drone once targeted al-Qaida's No. 2, Ayman al-Zawahiri, without success.

Any progress, however, is now in danger from an unexpected front. The recent terrorist attack in Mumbai has raised the prospect that Pakistan might shift troops from its tribal regions to the border with India. Both sides want to avoid a confrontation, but emotions are running high.

In the meantime, the Pakistani army has used helicopter gunships and fighter jets to blast entire villages in Bajur to rubble, driving 250,000 tribesmen out of their homes and burying 82 of their own soldiers. Pakistan has battled militants in tribal areas before, but never with such intensity.
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"I feel hurt. There is so much destruction. That is why always we are trying to prevent war, but we were left with no choice," Baloch says.

He bristles at any U.S. questioning of the will of Pakistani soldiers to fight the militants.

"Listen, I have picked up the bodies of my dead soldiers and carried them out. I haven't left a body behind. Do you think this is something we do without pain in our heart?" he asked. "I tell everyone who is saying we aren't doing enough, 'Send your brothers, your fathers, your uncles and I will take them into battle with me. I will show them.'"

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The convoy of Pakistani soldiers rumbles out of Khar on a crisp morning, a slight mist hanging in the air.

It was from here, the capital of Bajur, that the army had launched its offensive on Sept. 8. Previously, only the ill-equipped Frontier Corps, a paramilitary force, was deployed in Bajur.

"Since it was ignored, not easily accessible, it was an ideal breeding ground," says Gen. Tariq Khan, the commander of the Frontier Corps.

In August, the Frontier Corps fought militants in one village in Bajur but was driven out with several dead and many more wounded. That's when the army was called in.

The army has since wrested control of the key road link from Khar, clearing the road of insurgents. As of late last week, troops were taking their offensive into the Mohmand tribal belt that borders Afghanistan.

The signs of battle litter the roadside: flattened markets, bomb craters and mud homes scarred by mortar fire.

At Nazirabad, six miles (10 kilometers) from Khar, troops faced a two-day battle against nearly 100 militants. Insurgents popped up from fields of shoulder-high corn stalks to launch rockets or fire bursts with Kalashnikov rifles, then seemingly disappeared, says Maj. Kamal, who gave only his first name. Two soldiers were killed and 22 wounded.

"We couldn't see where they were firing from," Kamal says. "We discovered later that they would fire at us and then run into caves hidden by the corn."

The army found an extensive network of caves and tunnels reminiscent of those dug in the 1980s by Western-backed anti-communist rebels in Afghanistan during the Soviet occupation. In one compound of nine mud homes surrounded by a high wall, the army found six underground rooms and a maze of tunnels.

Kamal climbs a precarious steel ladder that leads to a lookout. Peering over sandbags lined up against the mud wall, he points toward a dark speck in a series of eroded sandstone hills.

"That's another cave. The tunnel runs from here, 100 meters to there."

More caves lie at the end of a 20-foot-deep (6.1-meter-deep), narrow mud staircase barely wide enough for a thin person. Inside the small underground rooms, the army finds bedding and weapons, from anti-tank guns modified to fire 22 mm mortars to homemade bombs planted by roads and detonated from afar as military vehicles pass.

The Nazirabad compound was one of several hubs established by militants in Bajur, Kamal says.

"We were expecting a lot of resistance, but these tactics — the tunnels. I never expected this," he says. "One room could hold five or six men."

Every day, Kamal's men search the caves to make sure the militants don't return.

The Bajur operation is an example of cooperation between the U.S. and Pakistan, with U.S. forces on the Afghan side of the border providing intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance to Pakistani forces.

"The Pakistani army's drive to retake this Taliban hotbed demonstrates to the world that they are serious about tackling the threat of terrorism," says Brian Glyn Williams, associate professor of Islamic history at the University of Massachusetts.

However, Bajur is just one part — the northernmost of seven major jurisdictions — of the vast tribal belt that borders Afghanistan. The scorched-earth tactics in Bajur contrast with the softer approach taken farther south in another tribal area, Waziristan, where most of Pakistan's 70,000 soldiers are based. U.S. officials have questioned whether Pakistan is accommodating the insurgents in Waziristan rather than rooting them out.

U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Mike Mullen, visiting Pakistan last week, praised the Bajur offensive but also encouraged the military to step up efforts elsewhere.

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Roughly nine miles farther, the convoy stops at Loi Sam, set in the middle of undulating corn fields.

This town has been flattened. The market that dominated the town square was pummeled to ruins. Electricity poles list to one side. The only gas station is half collapsed; giant holes mark where the pumps once stood.

It was early October when the army backed by fighter jets and helicopter gunships drove the militants out of Loi Sam. But less than a week later, the militants were back, firing at soldiers from the buildings that remained standing. Only after a fierce air assault did the army take full control.

From Loi Sam, it's a short drive past seared fields and ruined villages to Sabagai, barely two miles from Afghanistan.

A white banner hanging inside a militant's former home in Sabagai is signed by "relatives of the martyrs of Kashmir." The banner is worrisome evidence of coordination among militant groups in the tribal area and those battling India in the disputed territory of Kashmir.

Two secret meetings revealed earlier this year by the AP also suggested militants are pooling their resources. Several militant groups — including Lashkar-e-Taiba, blamed by India in the Mumbai attacks, and Jaish-e-Mohammed, another group with links to Kashmir — met to settle differences and forge common goals, according to a militant and a Pakistan military official.

The militants also called for a recruitment drive among the relatives of fighters killed in Kashmir. The banner in Sabagai suggests the drive has met with some success.

The persistence of the militants is sobering. Baloch gazes toward the towering peaks that embrace Bajur and straddle both Pakistan and Afghanistan.

"They are still out there," Baloch says. "They are everywhere around us. ... The best we can do is make it difficult for them to move and to have free run of the area."
 
Its pathetic to see our forces being used on th territory of Pakistan against our own citizens (however primitive or miguided), for whatever reason.

The bogus logic of "war against terror" does not cut much ice with majority of Pakistanis, much less with the people of FATA.

Our political and military leadership has brought America's war to our own home; for rather paltry wages!
 
Thanks to PakShaheen79. I'd read the article elsewhere but without the photos. Helpful and superb photos if only a modest peek at the situation.

Wasn't that Col. Balouch's battalion that was followed in the earlier reporting from late October?
 
Its pathetic to see our forces being used on th territory of Pakistan against our own citizens (however primitive or miguided), for whatever reason.

The bogus logic of "war against terror" does not cut much ice with majority of Pakistanis, much less with the people of FATA.

Our political and military leadership has brought America's war to our own home; for rather paltry wages!

Its pathetic to see our 'citizens' beheading and mutilating Pakistani civilians and soldiers and carrying out suicide bombings.

I am not sure why you think we should not fight against and rout out murderers and thugs like these militants who have challenged the writ of the state and caused so much devastation in Pakistan.

The government has given them a simple option - disarm, and the operation ends.
 
Thanks to PakShaheen79. I'd read the article elsewhere but without the photos. Helpful and superb photos if only a modest peek at the situation.

Wasn't that Col. Balouch's battalion that was followed in the earlier reporting from late October?

See this for high resolution pictures with narrative:

CTCentral - News from the Associated Press

Click on "Pakistani military clears caves" in the multimedia section on middle right side of the page.
 
Pakistan pledges fight to the death

By Jane Corbin
BBC Panorama reporter

Maj Gen Khan's troops have been involved in fierce battles
"No permission is required - just open fire on anything that moves," came the order from Maj Gen Tarik Khan, commander of Pakistan's Frontier Corps.

We were sheltering in a traditional mud-walled compound in in the tribal area of Bajaur on the border with Afghanistan.

His men had seized it from militants the day before, after fierce hand-to-hand fighting.

Bursts of fire still rang out and shell cases smoked underfoot as I explored the network of tunnels connecting these compounds, some stretching for several kilometres underground.

The Taleban and al-Qaeda had dug in here over the years, threatening the local tribes and becoming the effective power in the land.

The Pakistani government in the past has been accused of not being committed to the US-led "war on terror" because offensives turned into truces before the job was finished.

But now the new civilian government led by President Asif Ali Zardari - whose wife, Benazir Bhutto, was killed by extremists a year ago - has declared that this time it is a fight to the death.

"If they do not lay down their arms, we will kill them," declared Gen Khan. "There is no other way to bring this to a close."

Sanctuary

Pakistan's commitment to the fight against terrorism affects many of us - the majority of serious terror plots in the UK lead back in some way to Pakistan, which has also become a launch pad for the growing insurgency in neighbouring Afghanistan.

"It's a life and death struggle for Pakistan as well as Afghanistan," Brig Gen Mark Milley told me as we flew in a US army helicopter along the Afghan side of the border just a few miles away.

The scenery below was spectacular, rugged and wild, and clearly no barrier to the insurgents.

"The terrain and the culture lends itself to multiple groups, amongst them al-Qaeda, who have established a sanctuary here," explained Gen Milley.

He has lost 16 men to well-trained and motivated insurgents in the past few months alone.

Pakistan is under intense international pressure to destroy the militants who established a safe haven and training camps after fleeing Afghanistan in the wake of the 9/11 attacks in the US.

That pressure has increased following the attacks in Mumbai, which India blames on a Pakistan-based Kashmiri group.

Both generals explained to me that the strategy now is to trap the militants between the hammer of the Pakistani army's offensive in the tribal areas and the anvil of US forces ranged on the other side of the border.

Suicide bombers

This winter could be decisive in preventing the insurgents retreating back into the tribal areas - but only if the Pakistani army and government hold firm.

But a local Taleban leader who operates from the Pakistan side of the border was defiant.

"Pakistani and Afghan soldiers will die," he said. "We Muslims are not disabled and this war is not going to end."
 
"Pakistani and Afghan soldiers will die," he said. "We Muslims are not disabled and this war is not going to end."

They are showing greater resolve now than they showed in Afghanistan which they ruled in 2001!

Why did they run on their donkeys and the backs of motorcycles when the time was there to stand up and fight?

Idiots, they will die a useless death.
 
Dear AgNoStIc MuSliM:

Your logic is very interesting indeed.

Beheadings and mutilations are wrong, and so is the act of “benign” killing through bombings, shelling. or a bullet in the back of head? BOTH are deplorable and barbaric actions, when perpetuated by Pakistanis on Pakistani soil against each other.

FATA tragedy began with the first full scale incursion of Pak Army into Waziristan as far back as 2003. Gen. Musharraf, with no real roots in Pakistan threw his lot with the US Forces, and sucked in our complete civil and military establishment into an unwanted uncalled for “War” of sorts. Pakistan Army was misused for “scoring” with the US and NATO. In order to create some raw gory action our troops were let lose on Swat, Waziaristan, Bajaur and Mohmand agencies.These operations had no purpose other than CREATING an insurgency, and CREAYE intrinsic hatred between the Army and the people. Unfortunately Gen Musharraf succeeded where a 100 Gen Aroras would have failed.

Talking of the writ of the State? Any State loses its writ once it resorts to violence against its own inhabitants. Whose writ is it anyways?

These operations are a cheap way to relieve pressure on the US / NATO troops in Afghanistan, and for a few despised souls to collect a bit of “booty” so proudly referred to by Gen Musharraf in his book.

Pakistan and Pakistanis are the biggest losers in this game. Now that India is breathing down our neck we are looking at the US with imploring eyes to save us; this is despite having one of the best equipped and trained forces that cost about 7% of the national GDP to sustain.
 
Dear AgNoStIc MuSliM:

Your logic is very interesting indeed.

Beheadings and mutilations are wrong, and so is the act of “benign” killing through bombings, shelling. or a bullet in the back of head? BOTH are deplorable and barbaric actions, when perpetuated by Pakistanis on Pakistani soil against each other.

FATA tragedy began with the first full scale incursion of Pak Army into Waziristan as far back as 2003. Gen. Musharraf, with no real roots in Pakistan threw his lot with the US Forces, and sucked in our complete civil and military establishment into an unwanted uncalled for “War” of sorts. Pakistan Army was misused for “scoring” with the US and NATO. In order to create some raw gory action our troops were let lose on Swat, Waziaristan, Bajaur and Mohmand agencies.These operations had no purpose other than CREATING an insurgency, and CREAYE intrinsic hatred between the Army and the people. Unfortunately Gen Musharraf succeeded where a 100 Gen Aroras would have failed.

Talking of the writ of the State? Any State loses its writ once it resorts to violence against its own inhabitants. Whose writ is it anyways?

These operations are a cheap way to relieve pressure on the US / NATO troops in Afghanistan, and for a few despised souls to collect a bit of “booty” so proudly referred to by Gen Musharraf in his book.

Pakistan and Pakistanis are the biggest losers in this game. Now that India is breathing down our neck we are looking at the US with imploring eyes to save us; this is despite having one of the best equipped and trained forces that cost about 7% of the national GDP to sustain.

The deployment into FATA would not have been necessary had the Taliban groups not used Pakistani territory to attack NATO. If the PA had not gone int to enforce the writ of the State, then the US would have argued that she reserved the right to attack militants launching cross border attacks that the GoP outright refused to do anything about, as you suggest it should have done.

Any way you look at it, Taliban groups based in Pakistan were responsible for casting the first stone that necessitated the deployment of the military in FATA.

The offer from the government is to restore the original status - the Pakistani militias should disarm and cross border attacks be ceased.

As to your first point - the State (the Government) has the authority and the responsibility to use deadly force to maintain the writ of the State, and the rule of law. The state exercises that authority and responsibility through law enforcement, and in this case, through the military.

Private militias, acting in the name of some God or ideology, do not have that right. Therefore the actions of the Pakistani military were completely necessary, just and legal, whereas the bombings and mutilations by the Taliban were nothing but barbaric crimes
 
"Beheadings and mutilations are wrong, and so is the act of “benign” killing through bombings, shelling."

In other words, you attempt to dissemble and equivocate without basis.:tsk:
 
My only problem is how ISAF has no way of distinguishing Taliban between Pashtun, wandering farmer or pissed off civilian in many cases nor do I think most of their leadership know the difference. I am pretty sure ISAF is now fighting for the former NA and nothing more. They know once they leave the Taliban will come for the government, this is their long term strategy...kill anyone who shoots back, attribute it all to the Taliban, stifle the Afghan government's opponents otherwise there will be even more civil war and a chance of Taliban back in power. So far the situation is teetering on the edge, Obama thinks 120,000 troops will do it. In either case, once the US leaves there will be civil war guaranteed. I think the same is probable in Iraq. This is because the US is creating deep rifts in society by mis-labeling and inciting civil tension.
 
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