The Armor Division of Pakistan Army

[maverick1977]

VT4 coming in. the armor is going to be very strong.. Alkhalid 2 is ready, FCS integration is taking place, once that is complete things will move forward, 2 regiment size is ready, just matter of time...

 

[Gryphon]

Arent these "new" MechBrigs in InfDivs born from joining a MIB to allready existing LATBn(converting to M113 BS) & ArmReg?

These are actually the result of (holding) infantry divisions each committing 1× inf bde to the WoT, and resultantly being left with only 2× inf bdes, thus their lower fighting potential.

To compensate, 2× MIBs & 1× SP Medium Artillery Regt added to armd regt to form mechanized brigade.

Arent MechDivs operating with 3 similar MechBrigs and 1 ArmRecceReg?

Mech Div = 1× IABG + 1× IABG/Armd Bde + 1× IMBG (1× AR + 1× MIB + 1× HAT) + 1× Inf Bde + Div Artillery
+ Div recce regt
+ 1× LAT

(AD regt with each armd/mech bde)

 

[niaz]

These are actually the result of (holding) infantry divisions each committing 1× inf bde to the WoT, and resultantly being left with only 2× inf bdes, thus their lower fighting potential.

To compensate, 2× MIBs & 1× SP Medium Artillery Regt added to armd regt to form mechanized brigade.



Mech Div = 1× IABG + 1× IABG/Armd Bde + 1× IMBG (1× AR + 1× MIB + 1× HAT) + 1× Inf Bde
+ Div recce regt

In other words, PA Mechanized Divs have 4 Brigades + I Rec Regt?

 

[Gryphon]

In other words, PA Mechanized Divs have 4 Brigades + I Rec Regt?

This is structure of 25 Mech Div, must be same for 26 Mech also.

 

[PanzerKiel]

These are actually the result of (holding) infantry divisions each committing 1× inf bde to the WoT, and resultantly being left with only 2× inf bdes, thus their lower fighting potential.

To compensate, 2× MIBs & 1× SP Medium Artillery Regt added to armd regt to form mechanized brigade.

Commitment of an infantry brigade on the western front is not the reason. It has more to do with our new tactical concepts which have now solved a problem we were facing for the past almost four decades.

Mech Div = 1× IABG + 1× IABG/Armd Bde + 1× IMBG (1× AR + 1× MIB + 1× HAT) + 1× Inf Bde + Div Artillery
+ Div recce regt
+ 1× LAT
(AD regt with each armd/mech bde)

I disagree dear.
No infantry brigade in Mech Division.
HAT is a divisional asset(in this case), not a brigade asset.
LAT stays with the infantry divisions. That's why HAT given to Mech Division.

This is structure of 25 Mech Div, must be same for 26 Mech also.

There is no infantry brigade in 25. Three are IAB while one is Mech.

This is structure of 25 Mech Div, must be same for 26 Mech also.

On the other hand, 26 Mech has a brigade less.

 

[Dazzler]

Gosh, it must be raining tanks in Pak! Where are tanks coming from for so many regts?

Vt-4 must be coming. You mentioned 5 regiments of AK-1 or roughly 220 mbts.

 

[PanzerKiel]

The number 35 came from here

When it gets to stop for sleep/rest or resupply, the InfDiv comming to protect them will have a bad time to hold the ground.

Just for this, our infantry division is suitably equipped, in the form of potent of ATGM assets, let me count.....124 ATGMs plus a regiment worth of tanks for one infantry division is a potent enough punch, isnt it?

 

[Signalian]

Just for this, our infantry division is suitably equipped, in the form of potent of ATGM assets, let me count.....124 ATGMs plus a regiment worth of tanks for one infantry division is a potent enough punch, isnt it?

No .
More Regiments of tanks.

Mech Div = 1× IABG + 1× IABG/Armd Bde + 1× IMBG (1× AR + 1× MIB + 1× HAT) + 1× Inf Bde + Div Artillery
+ Div recce regt
+ 1× LAT

(AD regt with each armd/mech bde)

There is enough infantry already, isn't there ?

 

[Nilgiri]

No .
More Regiments of tanks.



There is enough infantry already, isn't there ?

We got a Patton kinda guy here...hehe. More TANKS pls!

Don't mind me, this is placeholder reply so I get alerts from this thread

 

[Signalian]

We got a Patton kinda guy here...hehe. More TANKS pls!

If the logistics can handle it

 

[Nilgiri]

If the logistics can handle it

Smart fella! You build pyramid from the base. I approve.

 

[Blacklight]

There is enough infantry already, isn't there ?

You can never have enough infantry.

 

[Signalian]

You can never have enough infantry.

PA and IA have plenty

 

[Zulfiqar]

1 Strike Corps:
6 Armd. Div.
17 Inf. Div.
37 Inf. Div.
2 Artillery Div.
1x IABG

2 Strike Corps:
1 Armd. Div.
40 Inf. Div.
1x IABG

V Corps (holding)
16 Inf. Div.
18 Inf. Div.
25 Mech. Div. (Includes 2x IABG and 1x IMBG)
21 Artillery Div.
1x IABG

31 Corps (holding)
26 Mech. Div. (Includes 2x IABG and 1x IMBG)
14 Inf. Div.
35 Inf. Div.

@Gryphon since we can't just ask @PanzerKiel directly the orbat (for obvious reasons) but only get hints so can you update the above post again with your latest guess work w.r.t how the armour regiments have been divided between the above divisions, IABGs and inf divisions.

No need to mention unit/brigade names just a summary as this thread is becoming confusing now.



Thank you.

 

[Gryphon]

No infantry brigade in Mech Division.
There is no infantry brigade in 25. Three are IAB while one is Mech.
On the other hand, 26 Mech has a brigade less.

Unless 441 is IAB, all good.

HAT is a divisional asset(in this case), not a brigade asset.
LAT stays with the infantry divisions. That's why HAT given to Mech Division.

Someone still has those BS-equipped jeeps.

Regarding HAT, isn't 45 Azad Kashmir one of them?

Vt-4 must be coming. You mentioned 5 regiments of AK-1 or roughly 220 mbts.

220 AK-1 are contracted, but HIT is yet to cross the halfway mark.

These armd/mech bdes, they have popped up from north to south. I was aware of 7, but Panzer says there are more.