BLACKEAGLE
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Read before talking, plz.Yes we are & we're talking about an Israeli Army in 2012 too armed with some of the finest weaponry produced either by the United States or their own domestic industry ! Thinking that somehow what Israel fields is somehow qualitatively inferior to what anyone in their neighborhood has is fallacious to say the least.
Furthermore the stroll down history was to impress upon you that for whatever reason you're rating Egypt or others over Israel simply because one has the quantitative edge too is fallacious for history has proved time & again that Israel outnumbered from all sides has held its own reasonably well to sometimes brilliantly well !
No Pakistan hasn't won a single war she has fought against an enemy 10 times her size, fielding an army 4 times her size, an air force 3 times her size, a navy 10 times her size & an economy 15 times her size but we've done mighty well compared to what Arab Nations have against a country that is dwarfed by even the Province I'm living in right now never mind the country despite outnumbering it vastly & from all sides. If you really want to distort my comment to imply as if I was having a dig at Arabs & in the process have a dig at Pakistan then know that Pakistan is a country created 65 years ago & so were most Arab Countries created about the same time; but if you want to talk about the wars my people have been involved in regardless of time then know that our people, from the fiercely independent Pashtuns of the North-West, the Baloch of the South-West, the Punjabis of the East & the Sindhis of South have had a warrior past & a civilization that exceeds what the Arabs ever came up with.
Don't misconstrue my comments & tempt me to take digs at you !
The Egyptian Army, no matter how well equipped it maybe, holds no qualitative advantage over the Israelis or the Turks & little to no quantitative advantage over either of them. If we were to factor in force-multipliers & the Airforce that gap is widened even further.
Israel outnumbered Arabs in 1948 war, Arab states were either newly dependent or under British/French mandates, aome of their troops fought literally with camels, while Israel got all support from Western countries.
srael: 29,677 initially rising to 117,500 by March 1949. This includes the entire military personnel count—both combat units and logistical units.
Egypt: 10,000 initially, rising to 20,000
Iraq: 3,000 initially, rising to 15,000–18,000
Syria: 2,500–5,000
Transjordan: 8,000–12,000
Lebanon: 1,000
Saudi Arabia: 800–1,200
Yemen: 300
Arab Liberation Army: 3,500–6,000.
However they managed to save:
1948 Arab
While for 1967 war it was a defeat, however Arab air forces didn't have a chance to fight and were destroyed on the ground by surprise. Arabs used to get downgraded arms from USSR while Israel got the best available in American inventory as much as they requested for free or as loans. That's why Egypt cut off ties with USSR after 1073.
India and Pakistan armies were a match and Pakistan was supported by both China and USA.
I wasn't talking about quantity but rather quality. Would you plz check the types and compare for yourself, just once.