TF-X Turkish Fighter & Trainer Aircraft Projects

[HannibalBarca]

View attachment 391279 This will prove usefull in tfx project ...guess what is it

old BAE prototype...
but not gonna be used for TFX... this one was used for the stealth program...

 

[Mr.Department]

View attachment 391279 This will prove usefull in tfx project ...guess what is it

Mock up of ? TF ? I would be happy

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/turkish-indigenous-jet-fighter-program-tx-fx.256669/page-68

Available on all chinese forums. Posted also from @UkroTurk

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/turkish-indigenous-jet-fighter-program-tx-fx.256669/page-68

 

[-SINAN-]

Mock up of ? TF ? I would be happy

BAE fifth gen replica.

 

[Fledgingwings]

is it in the making??

 

[Hexciter]

There may be a three-staged plan which is as :

Short Term: Initiating the design activities by selecting an existing engine.

Medium Term: Increasing the selected engine’s performance to the desired level by using the development margins of the selected engine and executing serial manufacturing with this engine.

Long Term: Designing more improved engines compatible with the interface and sizes with the serial production engines and conducting improvements with these new engines in the half-life modernization of the aircrafts.

http://www.defenceturkey.com/en/con...erm-and-strategic-defense-industry-plans-2593

That means (to me):

We design with EJ-200,

We produce with EJ-230 and

We modernize with EJ-270 then.

 

[Mr.Department]

That means (to me):

We design with EJ-200,

We produce with EJ-230 and

We modernize with EJ-270 then.

Good dreams . Insallah

 

[Khagan1923]

https://twitter.com/x/status/859325051694440448

 

[Silahtar]

http://www.bagimsizhavacilar.com/tusas-idef-2017de-ilkleri-ile-yer-alacak/

 

[Mr.Department]

http://www.bagimsizhavacilar.com/tusas-idef-2017de-ilkleri-ile-yer-alacak/

Looks like RAPTOR, imagine it with AESA and BVR Göktug

 

[OguzSenturk]

TF-X looks like far way longer than F-22

 

[Kutsanan]

http://www.bagimsizhavacilar.com/tusas-idef-2017de-ilkleri-ile-yer-alacak/

if we can design and produce a fighter like this why we gonna spend billions on f35? actually same thing with tai-625, we can prduce chopper like that but we gonna spend 3 billions for skorsky.

 

[Khagan1923]

if we can design and produce a fighter like this why we gonna spend billions on f35? actually same thing with tai-625, we can prduce chopper like that but we gonna spend 3 billions for skorsky.

Different missions plus TF-X isn't gonna start mass production until who nows when, our F35s will be operational in 2019/20. And we are gonna buy some F35Bs to be operated from our LHD. Do you expect the army to wait 10 years if not even longer for new aircrafts?! Seriously people think sometimes before starting to write. According to your logic we should leave the LHD stay in dock for 10 years until TF-X is ready if not even longer as we would have to engineer a svtol version which 'WE CAN'T. F4s will be retired in 2020 and replaced by the best stealth aircraft in the world at the moment and our F-16s will be replaced by the TF-X if it is successful.



Also how can you compare the T70 with a light utility helicopter?!

 

[OguzSenturk]

Most possibly, TF-X is not going to be operational until 2030s. It could make it's first flight (dull version) in 2023 for showing purpose, then lots of upgrades/integrations/changes will be done in next 8-10 years after 2023, add extra 5 years for establishing serial production line.

 

[Kutsanan]

Different missions plus TF-X isn't gonna start mass production until who nows when, our F35s will be operational in 2019/20. And we are gonna buy some F35Bs to be operated from our LHD. Do you expect the army to wait 10 years if not even longer for new aircrafts?! Seriously people think sometimes before starting to write. According to your logic we should leave the LHD stay in dock for 10 years until TF-X is ready if not even longer as we would have to engineer a svtol version which 'WE CAN'T. F4s will be retired in 2020 and replaced by the best stealth aircraft in the world at the moment and our F-16s will be replaced by the TF-X if it is successful.



Also how can you compare the T70 with a light utility helicopter?!

when we gonna get our 110 f-35s? in 5 year or 10 year or 15? we dont even know that. if you think enough you can see we gonna use unmanned figthers in 20 years.

Also tai-625 can carry 12 people mass produce these choppers and use it. while we spend 3 billion dollars we can design our own chopper with another nation. We all know Usa no longer an ally for us. Lets stop spending our money on these toys and lets produce and design something our own with another nation. Ykraine, Russia, Italy etc..

 

[Khagan1923]

when we gonna get our 110 f-35s? in 5 year or 10 year or 15? we dont even know that. if you think enough you can see we gonna use unmanned figthers in 20 years.

First of all our F-35As will be delivered in 2019 as we are waiting until the operating software of the aircraft has been coded 100% and all the bugs have been taken care off as we intend to use them the minute they arrive. The other countries who have gotten F-35s use them for parades as they can't use them at the moment. Not even the Americans can use theirs as the operating software is not at 100%. F-35Bs will follow in 2020-2021 when our LHD has been completly outfitted. No 5 or 10 years, but 2-3 years. There is a reason our F4s are called 2020.

Second there won't be any unmanned fighters and bombers the next 30-50 years. Operating a Drone is not the same as operating a fighter or bomber. Neither has any country on this world the capacity to build a AI which would be able control your unmanned fighters. If US won't have them in the next 30 to 50 years Turkey will even need more.


To your idea with working with other countries. The russians and chines are years behind the US what military tech concerns and those countries aren't our friends and allies neither. So I rather take the best tech and let my engineers work on it to learn from the best than to wait another 5-6 years until the T50 and J31 are ready for use.