Terrorists Attack Police HQ in Karachi

[313ghazi]

I would like to point out how proud i am of hazaras/kashmiris. For all their sufferings and attacks they faced whether from afghans/indians they never engaged in terrorism against pakistan or ethnocentric parties no matter how much terror they faced they never used it as an excuse to engage in terrorism within pakistan themselves.

Also proud of punjabis/sindhis/mujahirs. For all the carnage they faced during partition and millions who died at the hands of sikhs/hindus yet they came to pakistan, worked hard without complaining or blaming others and built an economy/industries/businesses in their provinces that could rival 2nd world countries… Again this shows that any community no matter how much carnage they face if they work hard in pak they will progress. Again no matter how much pain these communities faced they picked themselves up and never engaged in terrorism against pakistan.

I don't want to go down this route, but thats a ridiculous statement to make.

If you're going to blame ethnicities for terrorism Does the MQM not count? What about the Sindudesh guys? Also do all the dacoits in interior sindh and punjab fall into a seperate category?

Have some sense.

Pakistan cannot win this war.

Not with out current ch... leadership.

 

[hussain0216]

You used the word tribalism and i think it's very important. What has Pakistan done for any tribal community in any corner of Pakistan? The correlation between disenfranchisement with the state and tribal people, also aligns very accurately with the lack of engagement by the state and tribal people. For most tribal people in Pakistan, be it Sindh, Balochistan, KPK, the only thing they know of the state is security forces and the states political goons.

You also mentioned you are from an Urdu speaking family. It wasn't long ago your community was blamed for supporting the violence of the MQM in Karachi. Does everything thrown at the pukhtuns also apply to your people? Or was it more nuanced when it is closer to home?

What has the state done for them????

So that's why they bomb Mosques and schools?

Why is the go to solution to these backwards idiots bombing and massacre

 

[Samurai_assassin]

Bajwa must be very pleased with the ongoing attacks. He himself dispises Pakistan and wants the people exterminated.

 

[313ghazi]

What has the state done for them????

So that's why they bomb Mosques and schools?

Why is the go to solution to these backwards idiots bombing and massacre

Actually that's exactly why they're bombing mosques and schools. They're uneducated, isolated oafs. It's the same as taking the mongol hordes and putting them in a time machine to the modern world. We have millions of people in our country who are completely uneducated, completely illiterate, who have not been as far as the next village, who's first interaction with the outside world is US or Pakistan security forces. Do you think it's difficult to convince such illiterates to kill others for a salary? All while window dressed as jihad?

The state has fucked up for decades for allowing this powder keg to develop. The state allowed terrorist training camps in these regions to fight it's proxy wars. The state failed to clean them up, the state did that knowing these communities have zero education and zero economic opportunity. They live in houses made of stone mud and straw. The state turned a blind eye when drug runnings and smuggling was the only economic opportunity to these people, because it funded the states proxy wars.

Decades of this bullshit and eventually the savages the state created and nourished turned their guns on the state when their savage friends fucked with the USA and we had no option to take the Yanks side.

What has the state done since? Appeasement, followed by operations, followed by appeasement. They're still trying to have their cake and eat it. If in the last two decades the state had any sincerity of being rid of them, we'd not be facing this today. The state just sent soldiers into the meat grinder when it needed to curb them and push them back to control them.

 

[Tamerlane]

The problem is that the Pakistani state has failed. If the country was being managed properly and there was economic development then there wouldn’t have been any problem.

The best way to integrate all the areas of the country is to provide good education, jobs, health, justice, infrastructure etc.

In Pakistan, development is limited to select neighborhoods in a few major cities. Outside that it’s a jungle full of poverty, illiteracy, disease, crime, corruption, injustice, etc. It’s a hell on earth and a playground for internal and external forces to exploit.

To expect and demand everyone to be patriotic and behave like proper ladies and gentlemen while living in such circumstances is a joke.

People in most countries in the world would have risen up and overthrown such a corrupt system, but not in Pakistan. Thousands of years of oppression has made people in the Indian subcontinent meek and infinitely tolerant of vicious rulers.

 

[Enigma SIG]

State is no more. Hafiz will leave awam to the barbarians while he jacks off to botox nani while touching billo all over the place at the Cult HQ.

 

[TheSolution]

Actually that's exactly why they're bombing mosques and schools. They're uneducated, isolated oafs. It's the same as taking the mongol hordes and putting them in a time machine to the modern world. We have millions of people in our country who are completely uneducated, completely illiterate, who have not been as far as the next village, who's first interaction with the outside world is US or Pakistan security forces. Do you think it's difficult to convince such illiterates to kill others for a salary? All while window dressed as jihad?

The state has fucked up for decades for allowing this powder keg to develop. The state allowed terrorist training camps in these regions to fight it's proxy wars. The state failed to clean them up, the state did that knowing these communities have zero education and zero economic opportunity. They live in houses made of stone mud and straw. The state turned a blind eye when drug runnings and smuggling was the only economic opportunity to these people, because it funded the states proxy wars.

Decades of this bullshit and eventually the savages the state created and nourished turned their guns on the state when their savage friends fucked with the USA and we had no option to take the Yanks side.

What has the state done since? Appeasement, followed by operations, followed by appeasement. They're still trying to have their cake and eat it. If in the last two decades the state had any sincerity of being rid of them, we'd not be facing this today. The state just sent soldiers into the meat grinder when it needed to curb them and push them back to control them.

It's not solely because they're uneducated tbh, it's also because they are culturally insensitive to violence and killings.

It's why you'll see city dwellers join their ranks sometimes from Karachi, or someone sitting in Islamabad and supporting their actions.

It's quite a complex thing but most importantly they need economic development and opportunities. But this is not easily done to an effective level because Pakistan doesn't have money to spend at those levels to completely transform the areas, but small level work is possible.

 

[TheSolution]

@Bleek told you this won't stop until we start by kick Afghans, and than put every other ethnicity in educational camps, forced them to behave like humans. The reason why our issues are not solving is because we are not pointing towards the real issue, we are chasing stupid things and leads.

I agree with first part but the camps stuff is impractical and extreme.

Just increase the availability of education and increase the quality standard with a focus on STEM. Have harsher security measures.

With economic development and infrastructure development, more educated society, things will change.

BLA hiring from Wazirastan??

https://twitter.com/x/status/1626773691563474944

Both TTP and BLA did the attack together

@Signalian

https://twitter.com/x/status/1626658078593540104

 

[Olympus81]

I can’t wrap around my head of the rumors this being a TTP and BLA joint operation.

These 2 groups are at the opposite end of spectrum in terms of ideology and their modus operandi.

 

[SaadH]

I can’t wrap around my head of the rumors this being a TTP and BLA joint operation.

These 2 groups are at the opposite end of spectrum in terms of ideology and their modus operandi.

Rumors going around that this was another false flag by the sepoys to stave off the elections call.

1)Islamabad suicide attack to stave off the local bodies elections
2)Peshawar masjid attack as soon as SC started considering election in 90 days
3)Karachi attack as soon as SC was considering ruling on elections

 

[HttpError]

HAHAHA We all know who is responsible for all this mess what our country is into. Who kept hijacking everything.

 

[Meengla]

You used the word tribalism and i think it's very important. What has Pakistan done for any tribal community in any corner of Pakistan? The correlation between disenfranchisement with the state and tribal people, also aligns very accurately with the lack of engagement by the state and tribal people. For most tribal people in Pakistan, be it Sindh, Balochistan, KPK, the only thing they know of the state is security forces and the states political goons.

You also mentioned you are from an Urdu speaking family. It wasn't long ago your community was blamed for supporting the violence of the MQM in Karachi. Does everything thrown at the pukhtuns also apply to your people? Or was it more nuanced when it is closer to home?

You shouldn't misunderstand and misquote those of us who are trying to point out issues in considerably large number of people who live in the more western regions of Pakistan. Pashtuns of Swat are much more peaceful and integrated than those in the tribal areas. Perhaps it is the geography of the erstwhile FATA that's the factor in the extreme version of 'Islam'. Do you know that ANP, once the most powerful Pashtun party, has resolutely stood against the extremist 'Islam' of the TTP kind? They too are Pashtuns!! What ANP was fighting against, we do the same in this forum.

As for developing poorer regions, you know there is just as much poverty in regions of Sindh like Tharparkar as in FATA areas. But where do you see the level of violence in Sindh? Weren't Sindhis brutally crushed by Zia in mid 1980s (the MRD movement)? Why not so much violence by Sindhis? And about Urdu Speakers, even if Altaf Hussein, at the height of his popularity in the 1980s was killed by the State of Pakistan, there wouldn't be anti-Pakistan movements in Urdu Speakers. There has never been any credible separatism in Urdu speakers despite being subjected to at least two violent crackdowns (Benazir and Nawaz) and systematic denial of employment opportunities; on the contrary, we remain among the most patriotic Pakistanis!!!

And what about Balochs?? Can they rise above the death of Akbar Bugti, who by all accounts, was an oppressive 'leader' of his tribe. And yet his death is a cause for alienation in Balochs?

When would communities take responsibility for their own shortcomings and do something about them?? Why would actions of a lunatic like Mullah Omar, who was sheltering the most hunted global terrorist in decades, be allowed to hurt Pakistan??

Sadly, a considerable segment of Pakistanis want to enjoy the amenities of the modern world while living in a mindset of centuries ago.

 

[hussain0216]

Rumors going around that this was another false flag by the sepoys to stave off the elections call.

1)Islamabad suicide attack to stave off the local bodies elections
2)Peshawar masjid attack as soon as SC started considering election in 90 days
3)Karachi attack as soon as SC was considering ruling on elections

Knock of this ridiculous conspiracy theories and accept the people from Waziristan are utter animals and need to be blamed for their constant fassad

 

[TheSolution]

What is it with terrorist supporting women even defending rapists??

We have this BLA/TTP supporting Baloch woman defending the rapists and wanting officers prosecuted for "extrajudicial killing"

Something is seriously wrong with these women they are now defending gang rapists due to ethnicity, true jahils.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1626797442501836802

Apparently Shahbaz Sharif is well known for being strict against criminals and shooting on site and that's one of the arguments they use against him.

Personally that's not even that bad at all to me, and some people I spoke to say he actually manages to lower crime in Punjab quite well. @Maula Jatt is that true?

 

[Tornado23]

What is it with terrorist supporting women even defending rapists??

We have this BLA/TTP supporting Baloch woman defending the rapists and wanting officers prosecuted for "extrajudicial killing"

Something is seriously wrong with these women they are now defending gang rapists due to ethnicity, true jahils.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1626797442501836802

Apparently Shahbaz Sharif is well known for being strict against criminals and shooting on site and that's one of the arguments they use against him.

Personally that's not even that bad at all to me, and some people I spoke to say he actually manages to lower crime in Punjab quite well. @Maula Jatt is that true?

She was posting about Baloch genocide and disappearances, posting a picture of some woman, who is a convicted terrorist that tried to do a suicide bombing in quetta