What's new

Technology: China reboots its superpower ambitions...

tw00tw00

BANNED
Joined
Sep 26, 2016
Messages
840
Reaction score
1
Country
Singapore
Location
United States
India is falling even further behind as the dragon prepares for the next stage of revolution... Just how could India have fallen so far behind when it was on par with China as recently as 25 years ago?

======
https://www.ft.com/content/1d815944-f1da-11e6-8758-6876151821a6

Technology: China reboots its superpower ambitions

Tim Byrnes is an unlikely symbol of China’s bid to become the world’s high-tech superpower. For a start he is Australian. Yet the 39-year-old quantum physicist’s decision to swap a research post in New York for Shanghai goes some way to explaining the lengths to which Beijing is going in its efforts to upend the world order.

“Quantum physics is very strong in China,” says Mr Byrnes. “The top groups are as good as anywhere in the world . . . and doing some amazing things.”

Mr Byrnes is working to develop new technologies that will ultimately, he hopes, help deliver the holy grail of the sector — a quantum computer. His position as assistant professor of physics at New York University Shanghai is the result of a global recruitment drive to hire 10,000 of the world’s brightest minds. Recruitment forms part of a broader strategy to build China’s technological might alongside efforts to restructure its industrial policy through a scheme known as Made in China 2025. Billions of dollars have been pumped into research and the acquisition of overseas assets, unnerving global rivals.

In the past two years alone, China has announced more than $110bn worth of tech merger and acquisition deals, according to Dealogic,triggering national security fears due to Beijing’s role in some of the deals. The Made in China plan was characterised by Robert Atkinson, president of the Information Technology and Innovation Foundation, to the US Congress in January as an “aggressive by-hook-or-by-crook strategy that involves serially manipulating the marketplace and wantonly stealing and coercing transfer of American know-how”.


Tim Byrnes is assistant professor of physics at NYU Shanghai. He chose China partly because of its strength in quantum computing © Tim Byrnes

Born out of a drive to modernise its army and navy to keep pace with the US and Russia, China’s state-backed programmes in science and technology have acquired a more civilian bent in an effort to put the country at the forefront of areas including artificial intelligence, biopharmacy and electric cars.

President Xi Jinping last year set out the objectives behind the spending, describing science and technology as “the main battlefields of the economy”. These priorities were further reinforced at this month’s session of the National People’s Congress, China’s parliament.

If successful, the plan could mark a fundamental shift from an economy that earned a reputation as a copycat manufacturer to one that is setting the pace. China has some form. Its “BAT” tech trinity of Baidu, Alibaba and Tencent has enhanced the models those companies aped from Google, eBay and Facebook, but its goal to create national champions in areas like semiconductors and AI represent a far bigger step. The Mercator Institute for China Studies, a Berlin-based think-tank, last year described the plan as being the “building blocks of an overarching political programme”, adding: “In the long run, China wants to obtain control over the most profitable segments of global supply chains and production networks.”

Mr Xi’s clarion call is recognition that competitiveness in technology is one of the three pillars, along with economic and sovereign might, on which any modern superpower stakes its claim. The need is made more acute by slowing domestic growth and concern that the much-touted rebalancing, from an investment-led economy to one driven by consumption, is failing to convince.

There is also an element of old-fashioned fear: the concern of being reliant on technology from overseas has only intensified after Donald Trump’s election as US president on the back of protectionist trade rhetoric.

“From semiconductors to ecommerce, Mr Xi has unabashedly trumpeted the goal of making China the ‘master of its own technologies’,” Mr Atkinson told Congress.

Made in China 2025, launched two years ago, is one of a patchwork of schemes designed to advance the country’s tech goals. Modelled on Germany’s Industrie 4.0, it forms a blueprint for diverting manufacturing away from the low-value labour-intensive plants for which the country is best known into the age of smart technology — doubly useful as the cost of labour rises. Leveraging big data, cloud computing and robotics, it proposes vast automation of industry and aims to lift the domestically produced content of components used in China to 70 per cent by 2025, from between zero and 30 per cent today.

China’s robot revolution

Factories in China are replacing humans with robots in a new automation-driven industrial revolution. How will this effect be felt around the globe?

Beijing has done this before in individual sectors. Frustrated that it was spending more on importing semiconductors than oil it has, since 2014, spent $150bn through a mixture of M&A and domestic subsidies on developing the sector. It has also poured money into its own national champions, led by Semiconductor Manufacturing International Corp, while encouraging multinationals such as Intel and Qualcomm to set up shop in China.

The expansion has not been without controversy. Regulators, most notably the US Committee on Foreign Investment (Cfius), have blocked several deals over fears on national security. Casualties last year included a $3bn Chinese consortium offer for a US-based lighting unit of Philips, the Dutch group, which was thwarted by Cfius. In Europe, the €670m sale of German chip equipment maker Aixtron to Chinese investors also fell foul of regulators.

Most experts predict that there will be even tighter scrutiny on Chinese bids to buy overseas tech assets in future.

However, with a growing number of Chinese companies setting up research and development centres or small operations in the US and other markets, that could become less of an issue. Daniel Roules, managing partner at law firm Squire Patton Boggs in Shanghai, says these ventures could be used as conduits for acquisitions, undermining the national security argument.

“If a foreign-owned company that has operated in the US for several years acquires a tech company today I’m not sure how much Cfius would look at that or people would worry about it,” says Mr Roules, adding that Chinese companies operate on long-term horizons.


The new headquarters of the internet, ecommerce and social media giant Tencent in Shenzhen © Bloomberg

If semiconductors represent Beijing’s boldest foray into shaping the tech industry, the influence of the state can be seen in other private sectors. Baidu, Alibaba and Tencent, which are listed overseas and boast a combined market capitalisation of around $600bn, have worked on joint projects with the state.

The National Development and Reform Commission, which sets economic and social strategy, last year announced the creation of 19 national data labs, most at universities, as part of the Made in China programme. Alibaba’s cloud business is participating in two labs: the first to support online data mining and cloud-based processing for the industrial sector; the other will build a platform for big data software.


The Baidu Technology Park in Beijing. Baidu has a large slice of China's search engine traffic and dominates mobile mapping © Bloomberg

“China has been tapping into global commercial and scientific networks, promoting technology transfers, foreign R&D investment and training of Chinese scientists and engineers overseas,” says Michael Raska, assistant professor at the S Rajaratnam School of International Studies at Singapore’s Nanyang Technological University. “The underlying strategy behind this endeavour became the concept of ’indigenous innovation’: to identify, digest, absorb, and reinvent select foreign technologies in both civil and military domains.”

Luring specialists like Mr Byrnes to China is “no different to what they do with football — buying footballers so they can pass skills on”, says Paul Haswell, Hong Kong-based partner at Pinsent Masons, the law firm.

State-backed schemes, notably Qianren Jihua or Thousand Talents — which brought Mr Byrnes to China — are designed to pluck some of the sharpest minds out of Silicon Valley, Boston and elsewhere and transplant them to hotspots like Beijing or Shenzhen.

Launched a decade ago, the Thousand Talents programme offers deals that most multinationals would struggle to match. On top of a Rmb1m ($144,000) welcome package, there are guaranteed school places for children and job offers for spouses. Applicants are assessed for their qualifications and achievements, but owners of technology or intellectual property score highest. Successful candidates can choose to take up roles in the public or private sector.

Anecdotally, the scheme has spawned developments in areas ranging from gene sequencing to clean energy and national security technology.

In return, the Chinese employer takes a cut of any patents or inventions — important markers in Beijing’s efforts to measure its progress. Mr Byrnes has 42.5 per cent ownership of any patents he develops, while the rest goes to the NYU Shanghai — a joint venture of New York University and East China Normal University of Shanghai. The ratio is the same as the one he obtained in the US.


Agricultural sensors and monitoring, as seen at this pig farm in Tongxiang, eastern China, are part of the Made in China 2025 plan © Bloomberg

The programme has secured significant brainpower and in the process has lured some Chinese scientists home. Zhang Liang-jie, who left the country for the US after a PhD from the prestigious Tsinghua University, is one such recruit. With 40 invention patents to his name he has returned home to work on AI as chief scientist at enterprise software group Kingdee in Shenzhen, the entrepreneurial cradle of China and Asia’s nearest rival to Silicon Valley.

These national programmes are supplemented with a proliferation of local schemes, especially in tech hubs like Shenzhen and Hangzhou. Beyond these schemes there is also direct poaching of the sort that is common in the west but has a shorter history in China. Late last year Baidu, the search engine, hired Lu Qi, a Microsoft veteran, to lead its push on AI. “If you can’t buy the company, buy the head,” quips one analyst.

The results have been mixed. Programme 863, which was created three decades ago to “fill the vacuum” of technologies with military and civilian applications, has pulled off some impressive coups. It built the world’s fastest supercomputer wholly powered by Chinese-made processors, and implanted 3D-printed blood vessels made from stem cells into rhesus monkeys — raising the hopes of printing organs for human transplants.


A fully automated production line at BOE Technology in Chongqing © Bloomberg

But it has also been linked to murkier aspects of Beijing’s drive. Scientist Huang Kexue was jailed for seven years in 2011 for stealing secrets from his employer, the US agribusiness group Dow AgroSciences. Among the groups he said he sent information to was Programme 863.

China is also drumming up plenty of work for lawyers on patent disputes and infringements. “IP, product liability, industrial espionage — these are used as competitive weapons,” says one lawyer who works in China and the US.

Huawei, which holds the world’s biggest trove of patents, fellow telecoms infrastructure group ZTC and the leading internet companies are “buying licences like crazy”, says one lawyer. “Any company in China, if they have cash they will buy patents.”

As testified by the M&A frenzy, subsidies and global talent drive, cash is not in short supply. The same, some feel, cannot be said for other countries, where funding is less consistent.

“The US is the birthplace of information technologies, the internet and both the civil and military information revolutions,” John Costello, a senior analyst at intelligence agency Flashpoint, told Congress last week. “China’s rise as a leader in quantum and related emerging technologies would signal an eastward shift in the locus of innovation.”

View from the west: traditional hubs of innovation fear impact

China’s ambitions have sparked fear and loathing in European countries and the US, where the one-time tech leaders see their positions undermined by a country that combines deep pockets with a strong focus on developing its prowess in the field.

Their fears are twofold: that their own national security could be compromised, and that subsidies tilt the playing field in favour of Chinese companies. Multinationals in areas such as semiconductors often face a Faustian pact on doing business in China — market access in return for technology transfer.

The US Council of Advisors on Science and Technology told an already sceptical White House in January that Beijing’s policies are “distorting markets in ways that undermine innovation, subtract from US market share and put US national security at risk”.

Earlier this month the EU Chamber of Commerce in Beijing released a detailed critique of the Made in China 2025 blueprint and the potential blowback for multinationals. Jörg Wuttke, president of the EU chamber, described the plan as unusual in that it specified precise targets for market share, both domestic and foreign. That triggered global concern of “steroid-fed” state companies swamping lucrative sectors with Chinese production, just as occurred in steel and other low-end manufacturing sectors over the past two decades.

China repudiated the claims in a government work report: “Foreign firms will be treated the same as domestic firms when it comes to license applications, standard-setting and government procurement, and will enjoy the same preferential policies under the Made in China 2025 initiative.”

Companies have also defended government support. Speaking at this month’s National People’s Congress, Robin Li, chief executive of Baidu, said it was “necessary and important”.

But even critics of China’s policy note that blocking exports or deals can have unintended consequences. Addison Snell, chief executive of Intersect 360 Research, cites the example of export restrictions on some processing technologies, including the Intel processors for Chinese supercomputing upgrades. In the interim, he says, China developed its own. “What is certain is that the Chinese initiatives can no longer be thwarted by US export controls.”
 
.
A very biased way of putting made in China 2025 by western report but nevertheless sums up the summary of China future progress. The last paragraph is the best part.

But even critics of China’s policy note that blocking exports or deals can have unintended consequences. Addison Snell, chief executive of Intersect 360 Research, cites the example of export restrictions on some processing technologies, including the Intel processors for Chinese supercomputing upgrades. In the interim, he says, China developed its own. “What is certain is that the Chinese initiatives can no longer be thwarted by US export controls.”

Not even US can stop China if China united and work as a whole.
 
.
Technology: China reboots its superpower ambitions

As Beijing pushes to be self-sufficient in tech by 2025, rivals see a threat to their national security and competitiveness

9 HOURS AGO by: Louise Lucas and Emily Feng Tim

Byrnes is an unlikely symbol of China’s bid to become the world’s high-tech superpower. For a start he is Australian. Yet the 39-year-old quantum physicist’s decision to swap a research post in New York for Shanghai goes some way to explaining the lengths to which Beijing is going in its efforts to upend the world order.

“Quantum physics is very strong in China,” says Mr Byrnes. “The top groups are as good as anywhere in the world . . . and doing some amazing things.”

Mr Byrnes is working to develop new technologies that will ultimately, he hopes, help deliver the holy grail of the sector — a quantum computer. His position as assistant professor of physics at New York University Shanghai is the result of a global recruitment drive to hire 10,000 of the world’s brightest minds. Recruitment forms part of a broader strategy to build China’s technological might alongside efforts to restructure its industrial policy through a scheme known as Made in China 2025. Billions of dollars have been pumped into research and the acquisition of overseas assets, unnerving global rivals.

In the past two years alone, China has announced more than $110bn worth of tech merger and acquisition deals, according to Dealogic,triggering national security fears due to Beijing’s role in some of the deals. The Made in China plan was characterised by Robert Atkinson, president of the Information Technology and Innovation Foundation, to the US Congress in January as an “aggressive by-hook-or-by-crook strategy that involves serially manipulating the marketplace and wantonly stealing and coercing transfer of American know-how”.

http%3A%2F%2Fcom.ft.imagepublish.prod-us.s3.amazonaws.com%2Ffa9a52ba-0b32-11e7-ac5a-903b21361b43

Tim Byrnes is assistant professor of physics at NYU Shanghai. He chose China partly because of its strength in quantum computing © Tim Byrnes

Born out of a drive to modernise its army and navy to keep pace with the US and Russia, China’s state-backed programmes in science and technology have acquired a more civilian bent in an effort to put the country at the forefront of areas including artificial intelligence, biopharmacy and electric cars.

President Xi Jinping last year set out the objectives behind the spending, describing science and technology as “the main battlefields of the economy”. These priorities were further reinforced at this month’s session of the National People’s Congress, China’s parliament.

If successful, the plan could mark a fundamental shift from an economy that earned a reputation as a copycat manufacturer to one that is setting the pace. China has some form. Its “BAT” tech trinity of Baidu, Alibaba and Tencent has enhanced the models those companies aped from Google, eBay and Facebook, but its goal to create national champions in areas like semiconductors and AI represent a far bigger step. The Mercator Institute for China Studies, a Berlin-based think-tank, last year described the plan as being the “building blocks of an overarching political programme”, adding: “In the long run, China wants to obtain control over the most profitable segments of global supply chains and production networks.”

Mr Xi’s clarion call is recognition that competitiveness in technology is one of the three pillars, along with economic and sovereign might, on which any modern superpower stakes its claim. The need is made more acute by slowing domestic growth and concern that the much-touted rebalancing, from an investment-led economy to one driven by consumption, is failing to convince.

http%3A%2F%2Fcom.ft.imagepublish.prod-us.s3.amazonaws.com%2F7fc66888-0b39-11e7-ac5a-903b21361b43

A police robot at Zhengzhou East railway station which can clean, monitor air quality, find fire and perform face recognition in order to track those wanted by the police © Getty Images

There is also an element of old-fashioned fear: the concern of being reliant on technology from overseas has only intensified after Donald Trump’s election as US president on the back of protectionist trade rhetoric.

“From semiconductors to ecommerce, Mr Xi has unabashedly trumpeted the goal of making China the ‘master of its own technologies’,” Mr Atkinson told Congress.

Made in China 2025, launched two years ago, is one of a patchwork of schemes designed to advance the country’s tech goals. Modelled on Germany’s Industrie 4.0, it forms a blueprint for diverting manufacturing away from the low-value labour-intensive plants for which the country is best known into the age of smart technology — doubly useful as the cost of labour rises. Leveraging big data, cloud computing and robotics, it proposes vast automation of industry and aims to lift the domestically produced content of components used in China to 70 per cent by 2025,from between zero and 30 per cent today.

Beijing has done this before in individual sectors. Frustrated that it was spending more on importing semiconductors than oil it has, since 2014, spent $150bn through a mixture of M&A and domestic subsidies on developing the sector. It has also poured money into its own national champions, led by Semiconductor Manufacturing International Corp, while encouraging multinationals such as Intel and Qualcomm to set up shop in China.

The expansion has not been without controversy. Regulators, most notably the US Committee on Foreign Investment (Cfius), have blocked several deals over fears on national security. Casualties last year included a $3bn Chinese consortium offer for a US-based lighting unit of Philips, the Dutch group, which was thwarted by Cfius. In Europe, the €670m sale of German chip equipment maker Aixtron to Chinese investors also fell foul of regulators.

Most experts predict that there will be even tighter scrutiny on Chinese bids to buy overseas tech assets in future.

However, with a growing number of Chinese companies setting up research and development centres or small operations in the US and other markets, that could become less of an issue. Daniel Roules, managing partner at law firm Squire Patton Boggs in Shanghai, says these ventures could be used as conduits for acquisitions, undermining the national security argument.

“If a foreign-owned company that has operated in the US for several years acquires a tech company today I’m not sure how much Cfius would look at that or people would worry about it,” says Mr Roules, adding that Chinese companies operate on long-term horizons.

http%3A%2F%2Fcom.ft.imagepublish.prod-us.s3.amazonaws.com%2F037ab5be-0b33-11e7-ac5a-903b21361b43

The new headquarters of the internet, ecommerce and social media giant Tencent in Shenzhen © Bloomberg

If semiconductors represent Beijing’s boldest foray into shaping the tech industry, the influence of the state can be seen in other private sectors. Baidu, Alibaba and Tencent, which are listed overseas and boast a combined market capitalisation of around $600bn, have worked on joint projects with the state.

The National Development and Reform Commission, which sets economic and social strategy, last year announced the creation of 19 national data labs, most at universities, as part of the Made in China programme. Alibaba’s cloud business is participating in two labs: the first to support online data mining and cloud-based processing for the industrial sector; the other will build a platform for big data software.

http%3A%2F%2Fcom.ft.imagepublish.prod-us.s3.amazonaws.com%2Ff17c1b82-0b32-11e7-ac5a-903b21361b43

The Baidu Technology Park in Beijing. Baidu has a large slice of China's search engine traffic and dominates mobile mapping © Bloomberg

“China has been tapping into global commercial and scientific networks, promoting technology transfers, foreign R&D investment and training of Chinese scientists and engineers overseas,” says Michael Raska, assistant professor at the S Rajaratnam School of International Studies at Singapore’s Nanyang Technological University. “The underlying strategy behind this endeavour became the concept of ’indigenous innovation’: to identify, digest, absorb, and reinvent select foreign technologies in both civil and military domains.”

Luring specialists like Mr Byrnes to China is “no different to what they do with football — buying footballers so they can pass skills on”, says Paul Haswell, Hong Kong-based partner at Pinsent Masons, the law firm.

http%3A%2F%2Fcom.ft.imagepublish.prod-us.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fd5818e2a-0ccd-11e7-a88c-50ba212dce4d


State-backed schemes, notably Qianren Jihua or Thousand Talents — which brought Mr Byrnes to China — are designed to pluck some of the sharpest minds out of Silicon Valley, Boston and elsewhere and transplant them to hotspots like Beijing or Shenzhen.

Launched a decade ago, the Thousand Talents programme offers deals that most multinationals would struggle to match. On top of a Rmb1m ($144,000) welcome package, there are guaranteed school places for children and job offers for spouses. Applicants are assessed for their qualifications and achievements, but owners of technology or intellectual property score highest. Successful candidates can choose to take up roles in the public or private sector.

Anecdotally, the scheme has spawned developments in areas ranging from gene sequencing to clean energy and national security technology.

In return, the Chinese employer takes a cut of any patents or inventions — important markers in Beijing’s efforts to measure its progress. Mr Byrnes has 42.5 per cent ownership of any patents he develops, while the rest goes to the NYU Shanghai — a joint venture of New York University and East China Normal University of Shanghai. The ratio is the same as the one he obtained in the US.

http%3A%2F%2Fcom.ft.imagepublish.prod-us.s3.amazonaws.com%2F39dda10c-0b33-11e7-ac5a-903b21361b43

Agricultural sensors and monitoring, as seen at this pig farm in Tongxiang, eastern China, are part of the Made in China 2025 plan © Bloomberg

The programme has secured significant brainpower and in the process has lured some Chinese scientists home. Zhang Liang-jie, who left the country for the US after a PhD from the prestigious Tsinghua University, is one such recruit. With 40 invention patents to his name he has returned home to work on AI as chief scientist at enterprise software group Kingdee in Shenzhen, the entrepreneurial cradle of China and Asia’s nearest rival to Silicon Valley.

These national programmes are supplemented with a proliferation of local schemes, especially in tech hubs like Shenzhen and Hangzhou. Beyond these schemes there is also direct poaching of the sort that is common in the west but has a shorter history in China. Late last year Baidu, the search engine, hired Lu Qi, a Microsoft veteran, to lead its push on AI. “If you can’t buy the company, buy the head,” quips one analyst.

The results have been mixed. Programme 863, which was created three decades ago to “fill the vacuum” of technologies with military and civilian applications, has pulled off some impressive coups. It built the world’s fastest supercomputer wholly powered by Chinese-made processors, and implanted 3D-printed blood vessels made from stem cells into rhesus monkeys — raising the hopes of printing organs for human transplants.

http%3A%2F%2Fcom.ft.imagepublish.prod-us.s3.amazonaws.com%2F1ea4249c-0b33-11e7-ac5a-903b21361b43

A fully automated production line at BOE Technology in Chongqing © Bloomberg

But it has also been linked to murkier aspects of Beijing’s drive. Scientist Huang Kexue was jailed for seven years in 2011 for stealing secrets from his employer, the US agribusiness group Dow AgroSciences. Among the groups he said he sent information to was Programme 863.

China is also drumming up plenty of work for lawyers on patent disputes and infringements. “IP, product liability, industrial espionage — these are used as competitive weapons,” says one lawyer who works in China and the US.

Huawei, which holds the world’s biggest trove of patents, fellow telecoms infrastructure group ZTC and the leading internet companies are “buying licences like crazy”, says one lawyer. “Any company in China, if they have cash they will buy patents.”

As testified by the M&A frenzy, subsidies and global talent drive, cash is not in short supply. The same, some feel, cannot be said for other countries, where funding is less consistent.

“The US is the birthplace of information technologies, the internet and both the civil and military information revolutions,” John Costello, a senior analyst at intelligence agency Flashpoint, told Congress last week. “China’s rise as a leader in quantum and related emerging technologies would signal an eastward shift in the locus of innovation.”

View from the west: traditional hubs of innovation fear impact

China’s ambitions have sparked fear and loathing in European countries and the US, where the one-time tech leaders see their positions undermined by a country that combines deep pockets with a strong focus on developing its prowess in the field.

Their fears are twofold: that their own national security could be compromised, and that subsidies tilt the playing field in favour of Chinese companies. Multinationals in areas such as semiconductors often face a Faustian pact on doing business in China — market access in return for technology transfer.

The US Council of Advisors on Science and Technology told an already sceptical White House in January that Beijing’s policies are “distorting markets in ways that undermine innovation, subtract from US market share and put US national security at risk”.

Earlier this month the EU Chamber of Commerce in Beijing released a detailed critique of the Made in China 2025 blueprint and the potential blowback for multinationals. Jörg Wuttke, president of the EU chamber, described the plan as unusual in that it specified precise targets for market share, both domestic and foreign. That triggered global concern of “steroid-fed” state companies swamping lucrative sectors with Chinese production, just as occurred in steel and other low-end manufacturing sectors over the past two decades. China repudiated the claims in a government work report: “Foreign firms will be treated the same as domestic firms when it comes to license applications, standard-setting and government procurement, and will enjoy the same preferential policies under the Made in China 2025 initiative.”

Companies have also defended government support. Speaking at this month’s National People’s Congress, Robin Li, chief executive of Baidu, said it was “necessary and important”.

But even critics of China’s policy note that blocking exports or deals can have unintended consequences. Addison Snell, chief executive of Intersect 360 Research, cites the example of export restrictions on some processing technologies, including the Intel processors for Chinese supercomputing upgrades. In the interim, he says, China developed its own. “What is certain is that the Chinese initiatives can no longer be thwarted by US export controls.”


https://www.ft.com/content/1d815944-f1da-11e6-8758-6876151821a6
 
. .
China has lots internal problems to fix. I hope brothers are humble here, our ancestry warned us, Qian Shou Yi, Man Zhao Sun. Shu Da Zhao Feng. Pride can be in our bones, but please be humble especially you're arguing with other people have a different cultural background, my 2 cents.

China should not pursue to be a SUPER POWER, every super power will eventually decline, the more valuable strategy is how to survive longer than others, how to survive better than others.
 
.
Money, government's ambition & determination, talented scientists. Seems China has got all necessary factors to become a creative and high-tech country. Let's wait and see how it works.
 
.
China has lots internal problems to fix. I hope brothers are humble here, our ancestry warned us, Qian Shou Yi, Man Zhao Sun. Shu Da Zhao Feng. Pride can be in our bones, but please be humble especially you're arguing with other people have a different cultural background, my 2 cents.

China should not pursue to be a SUPER POWER, every super power will eventually decline, the more valuable strategy is how to survive longer than others, how to survive better than others.
Rubbish, without power you think British would give back Hong Kong? When you are weak, people will step over your head. The west till today are still scumbags. They never change.
 
.
China has lots internal problems to fix. I hope brothers are humble here, our ancestry warned us, Qian Shou Yi, Man Zhao Sun. Shu Da Zhao Feng. Pride can be in our bones, but please be humble especially you're arguing with other people have a different cultural background, my 2 cents.

China should not pursue to be a SUPER POWER, every super power will eventually decline, the more valuable strategy is how to survive longer than others, how to survive better than others.

dumb comment, wealth and power gives you strength, everything else don't matter.

Rubbish, without power you think British would give back Hong Kong? When you are weak, people will step over your head. The west till today are still scumbags. They never change.

bingo.
 
. . .
Rubbish, without power you think British would give back Hong Kong? When you are weak, people will step over your head. The west till today are still scumbags. They never change.
Well stated. Some Chinese aim to fly low thus risk hitting a mountain or hydro line. They are losers and should never be leaders of anything but a worker bee
 
.
I'm talking to Chinese citizen, not to oversea Chinese. If you're, don't interfere with China internal affairs, lead a happy life in your own country. i'm also not interested in arguing with little kids.
 
. .
China has lots internal problems to fix. I hope brothers are humble here, our ancestry warned us, Qian Shou Yi, Man Zhao Sun. Shu Da Zhao Feng. Pride can be in our bones, but please be humble especially you're arguing with other people have a different cultural background, my 2 cents.

China should not pursue to be a SUPER POWER, every super power will eventually decline, the more valuable strategy is how to survive longer than others, how to survive better than others.

You are absolutely right.
Humility will lead to Chinese greatness. Pride always comes before the fall.

Rubbish, without power you think British would give back Hong Kong? When you are weak, people will step over your head. The west till today are still scumbags. They never change.

And how did the Qing dynasty lose Hong Kong in the first place?
It was humility and the egalitarian values of the communist movement that saved China and made China strong today. The proud and arrogant Qing acted tough and superior but was rotten all the way through.
 
.
You are absolutely right.
Humility will lead to Chinese greatness. Pride always comes before the fall.



And How did the Qing dynasty lose Hong Kong in the first place?
It was humility and the egalitarian values of the communist movement that saved China and made China strong today. The prideful and arrogant Qing acted tough and superior but was rotten all the way through.

I agree. The Confucius humbleness is what made East Asia great. We should not imitate the arrogance of the West (by the West, I mean all Caucasoid people, including Indian). The arrogance can fit a nation for a time and for a specific purpose (without the stupid and blind arrogance, I believe Nazi Germany would not be able to conquer Europe), but in long run, the arrogance would destroy any country.
 
.

Latest posts

Pakistan Defence Latest Posts

Pakistan Affairs Latest Posts

Back
Top Bottom