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Dr. S. Haroon Ahmed
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A sure prescription for civil war. —Sindh Police Twitter
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Pakistan teachers get gun training after Peshawar massacre.
Recently, news items with pictures of young girls and boys holding automatic weapons have been flashing in the daily papers. The 'security training' programme is supposed to give them confidence. This situation is simply shocking.

These children have hardly grown out of playing with toy guns and they are now provided with automatic prohibited bore weapons, while being trained to use them too. They also participated in fake exercises, which included how to flee from kidnappers and jump from moving vehicles. The students seemed to be enjoying this part of their education.

To our young, scared children, this seems to be the message we are giving:
“In the process of protecting yourself and in time you can eliminate those whom you do not like, and as the fight heats up, join the armed wing of your own ethnic/sectarian origin”.

That is one sure prescription for civil war, which, for those who care to see, is not too far anyway.

The teachers I have met are unanimous in rejecting such a move. They maintain that besides interference in their studies, such measures by no means equip young girls and boys to become a match for the trained suicide bomber, who also has the advantage of a surprise attack.

The state should put a halt to this foolish idea forthwith and reconsider providing protection and confidence by practical and double actions.

Earlier, in the '70s, when the health policy was under discussion, it was decided that barefoot doctors on the Chinese model would be introduced. From the platform of the Pakistan Medical Association, I wrote a piece “Life in their Hands”, arguing that Pakistan is not China and these semi-trained young boys and girls would soon join the army of quacks.
A sure prescription for civil war. —Sindh Police Twitter
Recently, news items with pictures of young girls and boys holding automatic weapons have been flashing in the daily papers. The 'security training' programme is supposed to give them confidence. This situation is simply shocking.

These children have hardly grown out of playing with toy guns and they are now provided with automatic prohibited bore weapons, while being trained to use them too. They also participated in fake exercises, which included how to flee from kidnappers and jump from moving vehicles. The students seemed to be enjoying this part of their education.

To our young, scared children, this seems to be the message we are giving:

“In the process of protecting yourself and in time you can eliminate those whom you do not like, and as the fight heats up, join the armed wing of your own ethnic/sectarian origin”.



That is one sure prescription for civil war, which, for those who care to see, is not too far anyway.

The teachers I have met are unanimous in rejecting such a move. They maintain that besides interference in their studies, such measures by no means equip young girls and boys to become a match for the trained suicide bomber, who also has the advantage of a surprise attack.

The state should put a halt to this foolish idea forthwith and reconsider providing protection and confidence by practical and double actions.

Earlier, in the '70s, when the health policy was under discussion, it was decided that barefoot doctors on the Chinese model would be introduced. From the platform of the Pakistan Medical Association, I wrote a piece “Life in their Hands”, arguing that Pakistan is not China and these semi-trained young boys and girls would soon join the army of quacks.

That is exactly what happened when the first few batches were given jobs but all of them deserted and set up their private clinics.

Before trying to make out what should be done, we must identify the causes of such intolerance leading to aggression, violence and brutalisation in our country. We must look at the whole picture to learn how we have arrived where we are today.

Without going into details (which is a subject for contemporary historians), it is worth recalling the psychological impact of politics adopted by successive governments and administrations.
The use and abuse of religion and a distorted framework of democracy have triggered a large-scale identity crisis; the voids of identity now being filled with toxic pseudo-religious forces selling identities along ethnic, sectarian and communal lines.

Intolerance and hate are their major weapons, and one of the ways their success manifests itself is the qualitative change in expressed emotion seen on the streets of Karachi and even inside homes – the readiness to bounce at the slightest provocation.

In one of the international forums (People’s Peace 21 – PP 21), our state is aptly summarised as:
“Early 20th century slogan was Progress, late 20th century cry was Survival and 21sh century call is Hope” – which is fading fast.

Stress leading to insecurity is naturally countered by a remarkable process called 'adaptation'.

People undergoing stress resort to unhealthy practices like heavy smoking, drinking, drugs, crime, gambling, religiosity or sexual indiscretion. Yet, in our country, there has been an upsurge of cultural activity as well, such as the revival of cinema, theatre and literary festivals.

Is all this our resilience, adaptation, or sheer denial?

For a healthy society, the state should provide a situation where there is consistency, continuity, predictability and provision for stable orientation and security. Every new political arrangement demonises the previous one. It is a miracle that a few of our role models have survived, despite all our efforts to demolish them.

Mental health is achieved by relatedness, empathy and identity, which is only possible in a secular society.
Intolerance is the major factor shattering the very fabric of our society. How is it that the spirit of brotherhood shown by Pakistanis earlier has been evaporating with every passing year since the Partition? It was a faith-dominated political practice which has guided us to where we are – Taliban phenomenon included.

Faith is uncritical belief where there is no place for dialogue. As such, where religion (meaning faith) gradually and for the benefit of the then rulers is inducted into politics, the result is always the murder of tolerance.
There cannot be any relief from violence, aggression and senseless killings, unless religion is separated from the body politic of a country i.e. our state should be the protector of all Pakistanis irrespective of their cast, colour, religion or sect.
I and you can be Muslim, Hindu or Christian, but the state should be secular.
Secularism is not irreligious or laa-deeniat or atheism. If translated honestly, it can be hama-deeniat. If the state protects all citizens irrespective of their faith, violence, aggression and perpetual fear will disappear as there will be opportunity for dialogue – not on our faith/religion but on social, economic and cultural issues.
This is the only prescription for peace.

If I were to suggest, the areas to be focused on to begin with, are:

  • Educational reform on a massive scale, including radical revision of curricula especially at primary and secondary levels.
  • Teachers of primary and secondary schools be given prestige, remuneration and place they deserve in a progressive society.
  • Extracurricular activities be promoted like sports and now vanishing but once popular debating society and bayt bazi.
  • Empathy, compassion and tolerance be promoted by using appropriate tools by teachers, parents and now upcoming civil society.
  • Student unions be revived, diverting their energies to healthy pursuits.
  • Educational TV channels should be sponsored by the government (need advocacy).
  • Mental hygiene should be a part of teachers training. Sensitisation of parents and students by mental health professionals should be a periodic and mandatory activity.
At the Pakistan Association for Mental Health, we have been monitoring behavioural changes in our society and updating every two years on various parameters from 1996 onward.

In that regard, the most recent and serious developments in the last four years have been: target killing, bhatta mafia, land mafia, kidnapping for ransom and post-Friday prayer rallies, mostly hate-related.

If none of those trends change in the future, we and our children are headed to a very dark place, in terms of sanity and peace of mind.
@Horus @syedali73 @Zarvan @WebMaster @Jango @Akheilos @Oscar @MastanKhan Your Precious Views Gentlemen...




 
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Author of this article (or whatever it is) is running everywhere like a headless chicken. Whereas I do agree with some of his point, there has to be a central theme on which he should have concentrated. I need to re-read it, perhaps few times to get the hold of exactly what he is trying to say. Now that Dr Cheema (former IG motorway) is retired, he should write on such topics or another person would be Dr Shoiab Suddal.
 
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Perhaps Civil war is exactly what we need, or rather an expansion of the civil war.
 
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Good article.

I felt really uncomfortable at the thought of this being a prime response to the madness of some of our countrymen. Even before this article, there was another thread with pictures and an article. Many members here praised the idea of training teachers and pupils.

Training future generation to bring revolution.

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Please elaborate.

Perhaps Civil war is exactly what we need, or rather an expansion of the civil war.

That is exactly what's needed.
 
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I mean this time people will come to streets with weapons to topple the goverment if they fail to keep up with their promisies.
 
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Author of this article (or whatever it is) is running everywhere like a headless chicken. Whereas I do agree with some of his point, there has to be a central theme on which he should have concentrated. I need to re-read it, perhaps few times to get the hold of exactly what he is trying to say. Now that Dr Cheema (former IG motorway) is retired, he should write on such topics or another person would be Dr Shoiab Suddal.
Promoting you to TT is really surprising Sir. Really really surprising.
 
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I mean this time people will come to streets with weapons to topple the goverment if they fail to keep up with their promisies.

Last time I heard these words, I was worried and I called all those people who said this; fools that would see Pakistan burn.
Good for Pakistan that stupid, careless and bloodthirsty movement failed.
 
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This is really a concern. How come this is different than military training militants give to the children? Just one incident cannot be a driver for such large scale school going kids to undergo arms training.

As a side effect, these kids are given confidence to use the weapons, but with their mind not quite mature enough to decide at which situation they need to fire or not if somehow they get hold of weapons.

Look at the examples of US where school going kids kill their school mates using these weapons after steeling their parents weapons. If I am not wrong weapons are quite easy to find in pakistani homes as they are linked to prestige.

Promoting you to TT is really surprising Sir. Really really surprising.
HAHAHAHA!!!!!
 
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Dr. S. Haroon Ahmed
Teaching our students to fire weapons is madness itself - Blogs - DAWN.COM

54ef06ac0e945.jpg


A sure prescription for civil war. —Sindh Police Twitter
828388-peshawarguntraining-1422362078-100-640x480.jpg


54c78467b33de.jpg

Pakistan teachers get gun training after Peshawar massacre.
Recently, news items with pictures of young girls and boys holding automatic weapons have been flashing in the daily papers. The 'security training' programme is supposed to give them confidence. This situation is simply shocking.

These children have hardly grown out of playing with toy guns and they are now provided with automatic prohibited bore weapons, while being trained to use them too. They also participated in fake exercises, which included how to flee from kidnappers and jump from moving vehicles. The students seemed to be enjoying this part of their education.

To our young, scared children, this seems to be the message we are giving:
“In the process of protecting yourself and in time you can eliminate those whom you do not like, and as the fight heats up, join the armed wing of your own ethnic/sectarian origin”.

That is one sure prescription for civil war, which, for those who care to see, is not too far anyway.

The teachers I have met are unanimous in rejecting such a move. They maintain that besides interference in their studies, such measures by no means equip young girls and boys to become a match for the trained suicide bomber, who also has the advantage of a surprise attack.

The state should put a halt to this foolish idea forthwith and reconsider providing protection and confidence by practical and double actions.

Earlier, in the '70s, when the health policy was under discussion, it was decided that barefoot doctors on the Chinese model would be introduced. From the platform of the Pakistan Medical Association, I wrote a piece “Life in their Hands”, arguing that Pakistan is not China and these semi-trained young boys and girls would soon join the army of quacks.
A sure prescription for civil war. —Sindh Police Twitter
Recently, news items with pictures of young girls and boys holding automatic weapons have been flashing in the daily papers. The 'security training' programme is supposed to give them confidence. This situation is simply shocking.

These children have hardly grown out of playing with toy guns and they are now provided with automatic prohibited bore weapons, while being trained to use them too. They also participated in fake exercises, which included how to flee from kidnappers and jump from moving vehicles. The students seemed to be enjoying this part of their education.

To our young, scared children, this seems to be the message we are giving:

“In the process of protecting yourself and in time you can eliminate those whom you do not like, and as the fight heats up, join the armed wing of your own ethnic/sectarian origin”.



That is one sure prescription for civil war, which, for those who care to see, is not too far anyway.

The teachers I have met are unanimous in rejecting such a move. They maintain that besides interference in their studies, such measures by no means equip young girls and boys to become a match for the trained suicide bomber, who also has the advantage of a surprise attack.

The state should put a halt to this foolish idea forthwith and reconsider providing protection and confidence by practical and double actions.

Earlier, in the '70s, when the health policy was under discussion, it was decided that barefoot doctors on the Chinese model would be introduced. From the platform of the Pakistan Medical Association, I wrote a piece “Life in their Hands”, arguing that Pakistan is not China and these semi-trained young boys and girls would soon join the army of quacks.

That is exactly what happened when the first few batches were given jobs but all of them deserted and set up their private clinics.

Before trying to make out what should be done, we must identify the causes of such intolerance leading to aggression, violence and brutalisation in our country. We must look at the whole picture to learn how we have arrived where we are today.

Without going into details (which is a subject for contemporary historians), it is worth recalling the psychological impact of politics adopted by successive governments and administrations.
The use and abuse of religion and a distorted framework of democracy have triggered a large-scale identity crisis; the voids of identity now being filled with toxic pseudo-religious forces selling identities along ethnic, sectarian and communal lines.

Intolerance and hate are their major weapons, and one of the ways their success manifests itself is the qualitative change in expressed emotion seen on the streets of Karachi and even inside homes – the readiness to bounce at the slightest provocation.

In one of the international forums (People’s Peace 21 – PP 21), our state is aptly summarised as:
“Early 20th century slogan was Progress, late 20th century cry was Survival and 21sh century call is Hope” – which is fading fast.

Stress leading to insecurity is naturally countered by a remarkable process called 'adaptation'.

People undergoing stress resort to unhealthy practices like heavy smoking, drinking, drugs, crime, gambling, religiosity or sexual indiscretion. Yet, in our country, there has been an upsurge of cultural activity as well, such as the revival of cinema, theatre and literary festivals.

Is all this our resilience, adaptation, or sheer denial?

For a healthy society, the state should provide a situation where there is consistency, continuity, predictability and provision for stable orientation and security. Every new political arrangement demonises the previous one. It is a miracle that a few of our role models have survived, despite all our efforts to demolish them.

Mental health is achieved by relatedness, empathy and identity, which is only possible in a secular society.
Intolerance is the major factor shattering the very fabric of our society. How is it that the spirit of brotherhood shown by Pakistanis earlier has been evaporating with every passing year since the Partition? It was a faith-dominated political practice which has guided us to where we are – Taliban phenomenon included.

Faith is uncritical belief where there is no place for dialogue. As such, where religion (meaning faith) gradually and for the benefit of the then rulers is inducted into politics, the result is always the murder of tolerance.
There cannot be any relief from violence, aggression and senseless killings, unless religion is separated from the body politic of a country i.e. our state should be the protector of all Pakistanis irrespective of their cast, colour, religion or sect.
I and you can be Muslim, Hindu or Christian, but the state should be secular.
Secularism is not irreligious or laa-deeniat or atheism. If translated honestly, it can be hama-deeniat. If the state protects all citizens irrespective of their faith, violence, aggression and perpetual fear will disappear as there will be opportunity for dialogue – not on our faith/religion but on social, economic and cultural issues.
This is the only prescription for peace.

If I were to suggest, the areas to be focused on to begin with, are:

  • Educational reform on a massive scale, including radical revision of curricula especially at primary and secondary levels.
  • Teachers of primary and secondary schools be given prestige, remuneration and place they deserve in a progressive society.
  • Extracurricular activities be promoted like sports and now vanishing but once popular debating society and bayt bazi.
  • Empathy, compassion and tolerance be promoted by using appropriate tools by teachers, parents and now upcoming civil society.
  • Student unions be revived, diverting their energies to healthy pursuits.
  • Educational TV channels should be sponsored by the government (need advocacy).
  • Mental hygiene should be a part of teachers training. Sensitisation of parents and students by mental health professionals should be a periodic and mandatory activity.
At the Pakistan Association for Mental Health, we have been monitoring behavioural changes in our society and updating every two years on various parameters from 1996 onward.

In that regard, the most recent and serious developments in the last four years have been: target killing, bhatta mafia, land mafia, kidnapping for ransom and post-Friday prayer rallies, mostly hate-related.

If none of those trends change in the future, we and our children are headed to a very dark place, in terms of sanity and peace of mind.
@Horus @syedali73 @Zarvan @WebMaster @Jango @Akheilos @Oscar @MastanKhan Your Precious Views Gentlemen...



We are not facing a normal situation we need to be prepared to defend and fight and for that if we have to learn to shoot and kill than let it be that way. Secularism is completely opposite to Islam you can't be both.
 
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We used to have (perhaps we still have) a program called National Cadet Corps (NCC). Why not reinvigorate it? In-fact I am of opinion that every eligible Pakistani should be made to serve in military for 2 years, just like it is in Israel or Singapore (or perhaps other countries I am not aware of). The program (NCC) is perhaps already in place, all that is needed is to revise the syllabus. In my time, we used to train on M1 Garand semiauto. Following basic training with M1 Garand semiauto, the cadets can be moved on to next level with handguns etc.
 
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We used to have (perhaps we still have) a program called National Cadet Corps (NCC). Why not reinvigorate it? In-fact I am of opinion that every eligible Pakistani should be made to serve in military for 2 years, just like it is in Israel or Singapore (or perhaps other countries I am not aware of). The program (NCC) is perhaps already in place, all that is needed is to revise the syllabus. In my time, we used to train on M1 Garand semiauto. Following basic training with M1 Garand semiauto, the cadets can be moved on to next level with handguns etc.
Isnt Israel an eternal enemy of Pakistan? Why opting their methodologies or way of running a country?
 
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We are not facing a normal situation we need to be prepared to defend and fight and for that if we have to learn to shoot and kill than let it be that way. Secularism is completely opposite to Islam you can't be both.

Its not the secularist who are coming to your schools and killing your kids.
 
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I and you can be Muslim, Hindu or Christian, but the state should be secular.
Secularism is not irreligious or laa-deeniat or atheism. If translated honestly, it can be hama-deeniat. If the state protects all citizens irrespective of their faith, violence, aggression and perpetual fear will disappear as there will be opportunity for dialogue – not on our faith/religion but on social, economic and cultural issues.
This is the only prescription for peace.

I think it is not Islam that is problem, it is thekaydars of Islam who are causing problems, and I have said it before and will say again nobody holds copyrights to Islam. Islam has always afforded respect and rights to minorities, Islam has taught the world the politics, the concept of a welfare state. And lame arguments like jizya fail to recognize that Zakat is charged at higher rate than jizya. If Secularism is all about freedom to practice your religion than I think us Pakistani Muslims interpret Islam in very very wrong ways. Why cannot we (Muslims only) acknowledge this very simple fact that Islam in its true spirit is better than today’s world’s secularism?

On that other part covered by this article

Regarding training school going children on how to fire weapons, what can be more unlucky and disgraceful for us than that our children have to raise weapons to protect themselves. A collective joint failure of our citizens, leaders, law enforcement agencies and whatever, system we have in place to run our country.


However, as we have already started this training better design courses alongside it to train children and teachers so they are mentally strong enough to hold their nerves and know when to use and where to aim these weapons if at all these need to be used.


I am 35 years old and my younger brother won’t let me hold his gun because he thinks it is not fun and I am mentally not strong enough to hold a weapon.

Secularism is completely opposite to Islam you can't be both.

Enlighten me?
 
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