Tamil Nadu: Dalit youth attacked for not covering legs while crossing street

[Star Wars]

There is no point in your post.

The Internet Hindu represents a real constituency which wants to roll things back to the conditions that existed a hundred years ago. You can see their attitudes and belligerence on display here as well. This is a trend - not an irreversible one, but a serious one, which will require serious social engineering to weaken once more. And that may or may not be possible.

Utter nonsense, the only thing these "Filthy Internet Hindus" want is a little respect.Ask for that and you get attacked with all sorts of terms and stereotypes. you might as well stop lecturing others on morality and tolerance, we know how tolerant you are towards people of verying opinions and especially opposite political inclination. You are in fact no better than one of those elitist entitled fools who think themselves and their opinions to be superior to others.

lol, am pretty sure the real story is something else altogether. Considering the history of reporting news in India.

 

[tsinga]

There is no point in your post.

The Internet Hindu represents a real constituency which wants to roll things back to the conditions that existed a hundred years ago. You can see their attitudes and belligerence on display here as well. This is a trend - not an irreversible one, but a serious one, which will require serious social engineering to weaken once more. And that may or may not be possible.

A figment of your imagination.

I, among numerous others fall neatly into the category of Internet Hindus, and yet I, along with most other Internet Hindus despise such caste discrimination. Since you have not only put a label but also ascribed to us "our" social attitude, you should know that most of us want Hindu consolidation - the basic premise of which is absolute removal of caste discrimination. For as long as caste discrimination remains, there cannot be Hindu solidarity.

So no, we do not want the conditions that existed a hundred years ago, despite your biased view on us apparently. On that vein, why not also say Internet Hindus want sati back as well ?

You know a sword cuts both ways. Your views of Internet Hindus are driven by ignorance, not much difference from your 'sickular' tendencies some others would say. I generally hate both terms, but frankly ignorance and downright dismissal of the real concerns of these Hindus is what has led this outburst to reject the leftist-secular narrative(your clique) of what is an ideal Indian.

I know that these same views have been given to you by other "Internet Hindus" as well. Maybe it is your age or a ossified mentality that you refuse to accept these facts as well and change your view on what these "Internet Hindus" want.

Nonetheless, in closing all I would say is that contempt and ignorance breeds the same. Your contempt of them leads to their contempt of you. Your dismissal of their concerns leads to their dismissal of your concerns.

Maybe a younger generation (which is to say not you) is more suitable to take this country forward as they are less hung up on old rigidly defined categories such as the ones you have.

 

[Stag112]

A large no of these dalit stories have no caste angle to it. But then who would print and read a local fight in a small town in India unless caste color is given?

 

[Joe Shearer]

I spent a large portion of my life in "Jharia" near Dhanbad in Jharkhand which is a town located upon burning coalfields which can collapse any moment. If one worries over the fact that you are sleeping over a burning mine which can collapse anytime then one would go crazy. I find my early life quite analogous with the caste/communal tensions in India.

Not saying we should be ostriches but alarmist behavior is counter productive.

Certainly 'alarmist' behaviour would be counter-productive, almost by definition. I prefer to consider remaining on guard as a more appropriate definition.

 

[baajey]

A large no of these dalit stories have no caste angle to it. But then who would print and read a local fight in a small town in India unless caste color is given?

"The police have stated that the five men who belonged to the caste Hindu section told Muniandi that they had been waiting to teach theDalitsa lesson about not covering their feet when walking through the caste Hindus streets. "

Source: Tamil Nadu: Dalit youth attacked for not covering legs while crossing street

please read the above and reply back on how this is NOT a caste related chutiyapa.

 

[nair]

The caste Hindus who attacked the young man said Dalits needed to cover their feet as a mark of respect.

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A young Dalit youth was reportedly attacked by a group of Hindus on Friday, for folded up his lungi while crossing a street. Five people are said to have attacked the man as his legs were not covered as a mark of respect, while crossing a caste Hindu street in Kulasekarapattinam.

A report inThe New Indian Expressstates that the victim Muniandi who hails from Munainchipatti inTirunelvelidistrict had gone to the Kulasekarapattinam beach for Dasara. On Friday, when he happened to cross the caste Hindu street, five men identified as Durai, Anand, Chella, Sammukutty and Esakidurai, took him to an isolated place and hit him with PVC pipes.

The young man is now in hospital and has also filed a police complaint. The police registered a case under the Scheduled Castes/Tribes (Prevention of Atrocities) Act, the report says.

The police have stated that the five men who belonged to the caste Hindu section told Muniandi that they had been waiting to teach theDalitsa lesson about not covering their feet when walking through the caste Hindus streets.




Tamil Nadu: Dalit youth attacked for not covering legs while crossing street | Latest News & Updates at Daily News & Analysis

What is this caste hindus street?

 

[haviZsultan]

The sad thing is, many of the cases including this one, is a result of personal enimity and a "caste" overtune is added to it, so others can booked under SC/ST act. Before you jump on Hindus, out of the 5, 2 are High caste Christians. Even Muslims dont marry outside their caste, particularly if they are high ranking caste order.
Thats a social problem, and religions like Islam and Christianity cannot abolish these.

I think of all this as excuses and both Pakistanis and Indians are victims of such excuse making. For example when a Pakistani Hindu moves to Indian controlled regions we say good riddance. This is a kind of false patriotism stand-we do not focus on addressing the problem of why and what core reasons forced them to move. Moving is a very difficult business. My grandfather did not even have a home nor currency when he moved to Karachi. It is a very difficult experience the reason why despite believing in Pakistan my other grandfather from my mothers side did not move.

Minorities are the gems of a nation. A country makes its reputation on how it treats its minorities-its how an image of a country is built. The responsibility lies on not just the government but the citizens to build an environment of trust. Unfortunately the ones who can help India out of this mess only make random excuses. No offense but shifting the blame is the easiest thing.

"The police have stated that the five men who belonged to the caste Hindu section told Muniandi that they had been waiting to teach theDalitsa lesson about not covering their feet when walking through the caste Hindus streets. "

Source: Tamil Nadu: Dalit youth attacked for not covering legs while crossing street

please read the above and reply back on how this is NOT a caste related chutiyapa.

This is clearly caste tension but Hindus are so insecure today they want to paint everything with the lens of them being oppressed. Somehow a rare case where a majority is oppressed by a minority. It happens apparently no where in the world but India. Pretty funny claim according to foreigners though and these justifications are making things harder. Both for the secular system and the muslims.

 

[baajey]

Minorities are the gems of a nation. A country makes its reputation on how it treats its minorities-its how an image of a country is built. The responsibility lies on not just the government but the citizens to build an environment of trust. Unfortunately the ones who can help India out of this mess only make random excuses. No offense but shifting the blame is the easiest thing.

exactly my viewpoint. it says volumes about a society on how it keeps/represents its weak/underprivileged.

This is clearly caste tension but Hindus are so insecure today they want to paint everything with the lens of them being oppressed.
Somehow a rare case where a majority is oppressed by a minority. It happens apparently no where in the world but India. Pretty funny claim according to foreigners though and these justifications are making things harder. Both for the secular system and the muslims.

agree on the first part.
i can give u scores of examples where the minorities wrecked havoc on majority. but that was/is only possible when the goons were under protection of teh ruling party . example...west bengal, andhra pradesh, uttar pradesh.

 

[Kashmiri Pandit]

A classic case of misinterpretation of religious texts leading to centuries of stupidity .

 

[Maravan]

"The police have stated that the five men who belonged to the caste Hindu section told Muniandi that they had been waiting to teach theDalitsa lesson about not covering their feet when walking through the caste Hindus streets. "

Source: Tamil Nadu: Dalit youth attacked for not covering legs while crossing street

please read the above and reply back on how this is NOT a caste related chutiyapa.

Raising and tying lungi above your knee is considered as a sign of disrespect in tamil nadu. Against political leaders, dons no one dare to raise their lungi as it is a sign of disrespect. People won't raise lungi above knees while interacting with an elderly person, as a mark of respect. Even in school/college hostels seniors won't allow juniors to raise lungis irrespective of their caste.

Rivalry between the two groups(Nadars and dalits) are going for more than 5 decades. Even Nadars weren't considered to be upper caste, there were stories that nadar people will be called only by their name irrespective of their age without any respect 3 decades back.

Anyone who raises their lungi before dalit leaders like krishnasamy or john pandian, are expected to be thrashed as it is a disrespect.

 

[baajey]

Raising and tying lungi above your knee is considered as a sign of disrespect in tamil nadu. Against political leaders, dons no one dare to raise their lungi as it is a sign of disrespect. People won't raise lungi above knees while interacting with an elderly person, as a mark of respect. Even in school/college hostels seniors won't allow juniors to raise lungis irrespective of their caste.

Rivalry between the two groups(Nadars and dalits) are going for more than 5 decades. Even Nadars weren't considered to be upper caste, there were stories that nadar people will be called only by their name irrespective of their age without any respect 3 decades back.

Anyone who raises their lungi before dalit leaders like krishnasamy or john pandian, are expected to be thrashed as it is a disrespect.

going by ur logic, half of the ppl in TN should be thrashed.
no hard feelings bro, this is a caste based hate crime. no use puting a cover over it.

 

[Maravan]

going by ur logic, half of the ppl in TN should be thrashed.
no hard feelings bro, this is a caste based hate crime. no use puting a cover over it.

This logic is not applicable for entire tamil nadu, it applies only on southern tamil nadu. In chennai people will use loose tongue against elders, thats normal over there. But in sothern tamil nadu every single word counts while discussing with an elder. When my cousin came to chennai first time he wasn't used to chennai slang, so he thrashed a chennai guy who made a loose talk and got arrested. It's not the mistake of both, in chennai it's ok but in south it's an offence and the police officer warned him to leave chennai if he is not able to tolerate the chennai slang.

Yes caste/ethnicity is much more intense in TN than religion. It's not happened because he is a dalit, it would happen even a maravar guy walked like that. Only in the two districts tuticorin and tirunelveli, Rivalry still going between thevars-nadars, thevars-dalits, nadars-dalits, these three castes are fighting with one another for a long time but no one will ally against or with anyone.

Yes it happened due to caste, but my point is it's not happened because he is from the lower caste.

 

[punit]

The caste Hindus who attacked the young man said Dalits needed to cover their feet as a mark of respect.

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  Representational Image

A young Dalit youth was reportedly attacked by a group of Hindus on Friday, for folded up his lungi while crossing a street. Five people are said to have attacked the man as his legs were not covered as a mark of respect, while crossing a caste Hindu street in Kulasekarapattinam.

A report inThe New Indian Expressstates that the victim Muniandi who hails from Munainchipatti inTirunelvelidistrict had gone to the Kulasekarapattinam beach for Dasara. On Friday, when he happened to cross the caste Hindu street, five men identified as Durai, Anand, Chella, Sammukutty and Esakidurai, took him to an isolated place and hit him with PVC pipes.

The young man is now in hospital and has also filed a police complaint. The police registered a case under the Scheduled Castes/Tribes (Prevention of Atrocities) Act, the report says.

The police have stated that the five men who belonged to the caste Hindu section told Muniandi that they had been waiting to teach theDalitsa lesson about not covering their feet when walking through the caste Hindus streets.




Tamil Nadu: Dalit youth attacked for not covering legs while crossing street | Latest News & Updates at Daily News & Analysis

blow to modi ! Modi is responsible !

 

[Joe Shearer]

going by ur logic, half of the ppl in TN should be thrashed.
no hard feelings bro, this is a caste based hate crime. no use puting a cover over it.

He was not putting any cover over things; this is how things happen over there. What is the name, @Maravan, of Kamalahasan's film on this?

Was it Thevar Magan?

 

[Maravan]

He was not putting any cover over things; this is how things happen over there. What is the name, @Maravan, of Kamalahasan's film on this?

Was it Thevar Magan?

Thevar magan was mainly based on the rivalry between siblings who belongs to maravar community. Not based on rivalry between castes. Famous dialogue in the movie "Adi ku adi kudukala na aprom ennaiya thevan" (if you don't take eye for an eye then what's the point in being a thevan).

"Thoothukudi" movie to an extent coincides with venkatesa pannaiyar's(nadar) real life.

In my village president will get elected through bidding, those who bid the highest amount will be president. Always president will get elected as an unopposed candidate. Don't know when media is going to report "Tamil nadu ditches democracy and follows authoritarian rule" and thread will be opened for that too