Talks for Su-35, Mi-35 sales to Pakistan are underway: Russian Deputy FM

[batmannow]

China is not our concern, Everybody knows quality of Chinese product.

Russian want us to buy 40 more Su-30s which we would obliges but these type of media outing would do more harms than good to Russian sanctioned economy.

Su 35 are not Chinese made !
& China is one of the leading manufactures of the different weapons ?
Also not to mention , Chinese economy ?
& Russian s aren't dependent on India , for them China alone is enough ?
So basicly MOODI JEE , polices are going to hurt India in.longer term ?

 

[Sipahi]

We should buy some "Amreeki" ...

 

[Kambojaric]

The Russian Deputy FM Ryabkov referred to Pakistan as Russia's closest partner and said, "I do not think that the contacts under discussion will cause jealousy on the part of any of the two sides."


Pak-Russia talks on delivery of Su-35, Mi-35s underway: Russian Deputy FM - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

I find this statement quite confusing. Sure our relations are improving but we are far from being Russia's closest partner. Poor translation maybe?

 

[Yaduveer]

Su 35 are not Chinese made !
& China is one of the leading manufactures of the different weapons ?
Also not to mention , Chinese economy ?
& Russian s aren't dependent on India , for them China alone is enough ?
So basicly MOODI JEE , polices are going to hurt India in.longer term ?

Read this.

Do you know how much these costs .. atleast $200-250 Billion dollar (equal to Pakistan's GDP), Russia don't have guts to throw them in dustbin for sake of couple of Heli and su35s


India and Russia have several major joint military programmes including:

• BrahMos cruise missile programme
• 5th generation fighter jet programme (This alone is worth of $35 billion dollar)
• Sukhoi Su-30MKI programme (230+ to be built by Hindustan Aeronautics)
• Ilyushin/HAL Tactical Transport Aircraft

Additionally, India has purchased/leased various military hardware from Russia:

• Kamov Ka-226 200 to be made in India under the Make in India initiative.
• T-90S Bhishma with over 1000 to be built in India
• Akula-II nuclear submarine (2 to be leased with an option to buy when the lease expires)
• INS Vikramaditya aircraft carrier programme
• Tu-22M3 bombers (4 ordered)
• US$900 million upgrade of MiG-29
• Mil Mi-17 (80 ordered)
• Ilyushin Il-76 Candid (6 ordered to fit Israeli Phalcon radar)
• The Farkhor Air Base in Tajikistan is currently jointly operated by Indian Air Force and Tajikistan Air Force.

 

[cmpk1]

first off, good news! Gives PAF more options!

secondly, you can't just say these are just "rumours", today's news isn't coming from a "source", it is directly coming from the deputy FM!

third; India will be sweating on this news & the fact that Moscow is coming closer to Islamabad

fourth; I don't think money will be an issue as our economy is getting better, & such deals are not done on up front cash basis lol people with zero economic background amuse me, specially these Indian kids These are long term defence deals! soft loans!

Now why India must be really worried? I've already said on PDF that Russia will become an important ally of Pakistan! why? Can India give access, to Russia, to warm waters? NO. Russia, & other central Asian states, will gain more from Pakistan! energy pipelines to India will go through Pakistan then these countries will have access to Gawadar. It's about business, not friendship

 

[Foxtrot-Bravo]

SU-35 ... We gotta get this.

 

[batmannow]

Read this.

Already done , that was past not the future ?
Russians are cold heart peoples ?
Once you forget them they forget you forever ?Lil
China is the new financial super power so RUSSIA is more on China ,s side ?
& china,s interest in Pakistan right now economic corridor ?
Man they will make Pakistan so strong , that India would even forgets to think about COLD OR UNCOLD of its starts ?
Its up to India now to accept its stupid fake economical blackmailing of Russia in its past & be a good boy ?

 

[Paksanity]

It's up to Russia to decide whether they want India or Pakistan.

Do you know how much these costs .. atleast $200-250 Billion dollar (equal to Pakistan's GDP), Russia don't have guts to throw them in dustbin for sake of couple of Heli and su35s


India and Russia have several major joint military programmes including:

• BrahMos cruise missile programme
• 5th generation fighter jet programme (This alone is worth of $35 billion dollar)
• Sukhoi Su-30MKI programme (230+ to be built by Hindustan Aeronautics)
• Ilyushin/HAL Tactical Transport Aircraft

Additionally, India has purchased/leased various military hardware from Russia:

• Kamov Ka-226 200 to be made in India under the Make in India initiative.
• T-90S Bhishma with over 1000 to be built in India
• Akula-II nuclear submarine (2 to be leased with an option to buy when the lease expires)
• INS Vikramaditya aircraft carrier programme
• Tu-22M3 bombers (4 ordered)
• US$900 million upgrade of MiG-29
• Mil Mi-17 (80 ordered)
• Ilyushin Il-76 Candid (6 ordered to fit Israeli Phalcon radar)
• The Farkhor Air Base in Tajikistan is currently jointly operated by Indian Air Force and Tajikistan Air Force.

Don't worry, Russians will not ditch India. They will sell you too while they sell us military equipment. If India can keep both US and Russia hooked at the same time, why can't Russians do it? You are not the only ones who know diplomacy. Russians are old players of world politics. They will play us both so chill out! They are here to mint money from both of us and they will do it besides some benefits from strategic location of Pakistan.

 

[Yaduveer]

Don't worry, Russians will not ditch India. They will sell you too while they sell us military equipment. If India can keep both US and Russia hooked at the same time, why can't Russians do it? You are not the only ones who know diplomacy. Russians are old players of world politics. They will play us both so chill out! They are here to mint money from both of us and they will do it besides some benefits from strategic location of Pakistan.

Simple answer: Indian economy is not sanctioned but Russia economy is.

So it's not that they can ditch us , We will ditch them if they sell any critical hardware to Pakistan.

Read this :Help Russia during testing time of sanctions, Rostec appeals to Modi government - The Economic Times

 

[Preacher]

One of the greatest decision yet.
Can anyone give an idea how many of these Su-35s we will be getting ?

 

[cmpk1]

@Yaduveer


umm $300 billion for SU-35? you must be drunk or something!!! are you 16 yo? lol

anyway, hope you guys stay buddies, if that's what you believe in. Times change & you're living in the past

 

[Yaduveer]

@Yaduveer


umm $300 billion for SU-35? you must be drunk or something!!! are you 16 yo? lol

anyway, hope you guys stay buddies, if that's what you believe in. Times change & you're living in the past

Are you completely blind ? Where did I say $300billion for SU35 ?

 

[Zarvan]

If we can manage to get two squadrons of SU-35 it would change entire scenario in fact I am pretty sure if we soon sign the deal even USA will offer us lot more F-16 and most latest version. USA and Russia specially after CPEC can't afford to ignore us.

 

[graphican]

Pakistan should look to get something off-the-shelf with 1-2 years of delivery time frame.

 

[cmpk1]

It's up to Russia to decide whether they want India or Pakistan.

Do you know how much these costs .. atleast $200-250 Billion dollar (equal to Pakistan's GDP), Russia don't have guts to throw them in dustbin for sake of couple of Heli and su35s

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lol.