Talks for Su-35, Mi-35 sales to Pakistan are underway: Russian Deputy FM

[Albatross]

even so called "west" and russia knows that we are not going to break of with russia or anyone else just becuase of them we never did that and we even today wont do that no matter what and even russia and USA knows this fact too very well

now the thing is how does it helps pakistani cuase to get russian cutting edge hardware ?

bieng a friend with russia doesnt means bieng a enemy of west or vice versa as per indias forign policy and good you mentioned ukrine do you think russia gonna forget indian stand on that when west wanted us to do otherwise ... what changed did we dropped russian interests for sake of so called "west"

think about it

We are in 21st century and things have changed a lot now . India was in Russian block for decades which benefitted both nations one militarily and one economically today India wants to assure Russia that even if she buys weapons from west and US they would still be buying some from Russia so in this scenario India would be having a upper hand to choose what she likes but this is not how world works and you can pick up your history books if you have any to see what I mean.
Power is above money and Russia would not like to loose her influence on India and that too at the hands of her enemies. Though India badly wants things to work in the above mentioned way but Russian recent sales of helicopters to Pakistan and now this "slip" of tongue from their deputy foreign minister clearly shows their warnings to india now choice is yours but this dream of playing ball with both Russian and US,EU block would never materialize and I gave you the example of Crimea to give you a glimpse of Russian thinking they spent 40 billion on war directly and their over all losses including sanctions goes 100 billion plus just because they did what they felt was right.

India will have to choose one of them and under Israeli influence we know what the choice would be so there are bright chances of seeing SU 35 in Pak colors.

 

[GURU DUTT]

We are in 21st century and things have changed a lot now . India was in Russian block for decades which benefitted both nations one militarily and one economically today India wants to assure Russia that even if she buys weapons from west and US they would still be buying some from Russia so in this scenario India would be having a upper hand to choose what she likes but this is not how world works and you can pick up your history books if you have any to see what I mean.
Power is above money and Russia would not like to loose her influence on India and that too at the hands of her enemies. Though India badly wants things to work in the above mentioned way but Russian recent sales of helicopters to Pakistan and now this "slip" of tongue from their deputy foreign minister clearly shows their warnings to india now choice is yours but this dream of playing ball with both Russian and US,EU block would never materialize and I gave you the example of Crimea to give you a glimpse of Russian thinking they spent 40 billion on war directly and their over all losses including sanctions goes 100 billion plus just because they did what they felt was right.

India will have to choose one of them and under Israeli influence we know what the choice would be so there are bright chances of seeing SU 35 in Pak colors.

in short : india doesnt chooses between its partners specially if other party wants it to be used against the third party .... sorry to burst your bubble but thats not owr policy and the main reason by both west and russia are in good terms with us and to get into such a position the first requiremnt is owr inner strenth and thats the main reason why inspite of bieng at logger heads with each other iran and israel , USA and russia, UAE/SA and iran , China and Japan/S korea all have good equations with us ..... we are basicalli like a baniya who delas with every kind of coustmer and supplier on merit rather than emotions or realtions ..... in short its all about buisness nothing personal about it .... hope you can understand that

but no one is stopping you from wrting indian foriegn policies orbetoury over this concept of india onli time will decide it ..... cheers mate

 

[Kakaspai]

Only time can solve this su35 issue

 

[GURU DUTT]

Only time can solve this su35 issue

not just time time and money if pakistan has money tommorow then it can buy whatever it chooses to from whoever it chooses it its a buyers market

 

[batmannow]

in short : india doesnt chooses between its partners specially if other party wants it to be used against the third party .... sorry to burst your bubble but thats not owr policy and the main reason by both west and russia are in good terms with us and to get into such a position the first requiremnt is owr inner strenth and thats the main reason why inspite of bieng at logger heads with each other iran and israel , USA and russia, UAE/SA and iran , China and Japan/S korea all have good equations with us ..... we are basicalli like a baniya who delas with every kind of coustmer and supplier on merit rather than emotions or realtions ..... in short its all about buisness nothing personal about it .... hope you can understand that

but no one is stopping you from wrting indian foriegn policies orbetoury over this concept of india onli time will decide it ..... cheers mate

This time this banyaa has to make hard choices , give up its dhoti or its baiyaan ?
Its India ,s choice to pay mor to whom USA or RUSSIA Both I'll result in Pakistan getting SU-35 s ?lolzz
We are the so called left alone , suicidal patriots of great PAK?
no one likes us , but we are here to make sure that at least in every dam argument you go down ?
In reality you are getting down ?right ?sure ?lolz

 

[Kakaspai]

not just time time and money if pakistan has money tommorow then it can buy whatever it chooses to from whoever it chooses it its a buyers market

And how do you know pakistan doesn't has money.Pakistan bought zulus on cash they bought hinds on cash.

 

[batmannow]

not just time time and money if pakistan has money tommorow then it can buy whatever it chooses to from whoever it chooses it its a buyers market

Pakistan has its hard cash ,its our friendship with China , India just lost its friendship with Russia , cause it acted in very selfish bazari way ?
Now its Russia ,s turn to show India what means bazari thinking ?lolzz

 

[Albatross]

in short : india doesnt chooses between its partners specially if other party wants it to be used against the third party .... sorry to burst your bubble but thats not owr policy and the main reason by both west and russia are in good terms with us and to get into such a position the first requiremnt is owr inner strenth and thats the main reason why inspite of bieng at logger heads with each other iran and israel , USA and russia, UAE/SA and iran , China and Japan/S korea all have good equations with us ..... we are basicalli like a baniya who delas with every kind of coustmer and supplier on merit rather than emotions or realtions ..... in short its all about buisness nothing personal about it .... hope you can understand that

but no one is stopping you from wrting indian foriegn policies orbetoury over this concept of india onli time will decide it ..... cheers mate

This is what I was implying Indians look everything through their baniya eyes but rest of the world doesn't always do that and especially Russia and the crimes proves my point . Only a dumb would accept 100 billion plus losses for a small piece of land but having majority Russian origin people . So if you think Russia will just keep singing Ramain because of the indian dollars you are wrong if you want to diversify your suppliers they want to diversify their buyers whats the problem then why your fellas come with their dollar claims proving how Russian economy depends on India thus they will not supply Pakistan with any lethal machines .

Your own argument nullifies the reasons you gave why Russia wont supply Pak with SU 35.

 

[GURU DUTT]

This time this banyaa has to make hard choices , give up its dhoti or its baiyaan ?
Its India ,s choice to pay mor to whom USA or RUSSIA Both I'll result in Pakistan getting SU-35 s ?lolzz

well then i guess you still dont know anything about how a baniya works

anyway good luck with your dreams to see india going down

This is what I was implying Indians look everything through their baniya eyes but rest of the world doesn't always do that and especially Russia and the crimes proves my point . Only a dumb would accept 100 billion plus losses for a small piece of land but having majority Russian origin people . So if you think Russia will just keep singing Ramain because of the indian dollars you are wrong if you want to diversify your suppliers they want to diversify their buyers whats the problem then why your fellas come with their dollar claims proving how Russian economy depends on India thus they will not supply Pakistan with any lethal machines .

Your own argument nullifies the reasons you gave why Russia wont supply Pak with SU 35.

fact is india or for that matter no one can force russia to choose its coustmers it never realli cared about that ,,... first go and bring moeny for su-35s then see weather russia agrees to sell you or not till then its all speculations and sabre rattling with shadows

And how do you know pakistan doesn't has money.Pakistan bought zulus on cash they bought hinds on cash.

well dont talk about past talk about present and future .... in short money ahi to honey hai

 

[Imran Khan]

yes but in 2032 both will be inducted hahahaha

 

[Kakaspai]

well dont talk about past talk about present and future .... in short money ahi to honey hai

At first indians were like russia wont give you rd93.then they said you cant have hinds.they said we dont have money to buy zulus.how many times you want to be proved wrong.dont you get tired of being wrong.

 

[GURU DUTT]

At first indians were like russia wont give you rd93.then they said you cant have hinds.they said we dont have money to buy zulus.how many times you want to be proved wrong.dont you get tired of being wrong.

sirji in short money talks bull**** walks .... if tommorow you have moeny there is no power in the world that can stop you from buying what you intend to buy from russia provided russians are ok to sell it to you .... india or china doesnt realli matters ... onli thing that matters is money so good luck

 

[Kakaspai]

sirji in short money talks bull**** walks .... if tommorow you have moeny there is no power in the world that can stop you from buying what you intend to buy from russia provided russians are ok to sell it to you .... india or china doesnt realli matters ... onli thing that matters is money so good luck

This is the frist reasonable post I have seen from you

 

[GURU DUTT]

This is the frist reasonable post I have seen from you

 

[bdslph]

the only disadvantage of the Su35 is it dont have stealth