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Taliban: Women can study in gender-segregated universities
By KATHY GANNON2 hours ago


Girls walk upstairs as they enter a school before class in Kabul, Afghanistan, Sunday, Sept. 12, 2021. (AP Photo/Felipe Dana)
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Girls walk upstairs as they enter a school before class in Kabul, Afghanistan, Sunday, Sept. 12, 2021. (AP Photo/Felipe Dana)


KABUL, Afghanistan (AP) — Women in Afghanistan can continue to study in universities, including at post-graduate levels, but classrooms will be gender-segregated and Islamic dress is compulsory, the Taliban government’s new higher education minister said Sunday.
The minister, Abdul Baqi Haqqani, laid out the new policies at a news conference, several days after Afghanistan’s new rulers formed an all-male government. On Saturday, the Taliban had raised their flag over the presidential palace, signaling the start of the work of the new government.
The world has been watching closely to see to what extent the Taliban might act differently from their first time in power, in the late 1990s. During that era, girls and women were denied an education, and were excluded from public life.
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The Taliban have suggested they have changed, including in their attitudes toward women. However, women have been banned from sports and the Taliban have used violence in recent days against women protesters demanding equal rights.
Haqqani said the Taliban did not want to turn the clock back 20 years. “We will start building on what exists today,” he said.
However, female university students will face restrictions, including a compulsory dress code. Haqqani said hijabs will be mandatory but did not specify if this meant compulsory headscarves or also compulsory face coverings.
Gender segregation will also be enforced, he said. “We will not allow boys and girls to study together,” he said. “We will not allow co-education.”
Haqqani said the subjects being taught would also be reviewed. While he did not elaborate, he said he wanted graduates of Afghanistan’s universities to be competitive with university graduates in the region and the rest of the world.
The Taliban, who subscribe to a strict interpretation of Islam, banned music and art during their previous time in power. This time around television has remained and news channels still show women presenters, but the Taliban messaging has been erratic.
In an interview on Afghanistan’s popular TOLO News, Taliban spokesman Syed Zekrullah Hashmi said last week that women should give birth and raise children. While the Taliban have not ruled out the eventual participation of women in government, the spokesman said “it’s not necessary that women be in the Cabinet.”
The Taliban seized power on Aug. 15, the day they overran the capital of Kabul after capturing outlying provinces in a rapid military campaign. They initially promised inclusiveness and a general amnesty for their former opponents, but many Afghans remain deeply fearful of the new rulers. Taliban police officials have beaten Afghan journalists, violently dispersed women’s protests and formed an all-male government despite saying initially they would invite broader representation.
The new higher education policy signals a change from the accepted practice before the Taliban takeover. Universities were co-ed, with men and women studying side by side, and female students did not have to abide by a dress code. However, the vast majority of female university students opted to wear headscarves in line with tradition.
In elementary and high schools, boys and girls were taught separately, even before the Taliban came to power. In high schools, girls had to wear tunics reaching to their knees and white headscarves, and jeans, makeup and jewelry were not permitted.
Meanwhile, the Taliban’s new government faces enormous economic challenges with near daily warnings of an impending economic meltdown and a humanitarian crisis. The United Nations warns it could drive 97% of Afghans below the poverty level by the end of the year.
Thousands of desperate Afghans wait daily outside Afghanistan’s banks for hours to withdraw the $200 weekly allotment. In recent days, the Taliban appear to have been trying to establish an organized system for allowing customers to withdraw funds but it rapidly deteriorates into stick waving as crowds surge toward the bank gates.
Outside the New Kabul Bank, Afghanistan’s first private bank established in 2004, nearly 2,000 people demanded their money Sunday.
For Zaidullah Mashwani, Sunday was the third day he had come to the bank hoping to get his $200. Each night the Taliban make a list of eligible customers the next day and each morning Mashwani said a whole new list is presented.
“This is our money. The people have the right to have it,” he said. “No one has money. The Taliban government needs to do something so we can get our money.”

This is certainly a step towards modernization, which is something i very much welcome.

Please also consider letting women work, somehow.
To keep them prisoners in their own homes, able to go out only with a male escort, is also too restrictive to gain the respect and support of the rest of the world.
 
I have a question to you @PeaceGen How many Afghans has the EU and other Western countries around the world rescued? Don't avoid the question. I repeat don't avoid the question.
 
Good for the new Taliban. They are proving the world wrong with ...
 
I have a question to you @PeaceGen How many Afghans has the EU and other Western countries around the world rescued? Don't avoid the question. I repeat don't avoid the question.
Afghanistan holds 40 million people. According to https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/8/12/10-maps-to-understand-afghanistan-interactive, they produced 2.6 million refugees who now live outside Afghanistan.
According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_evacuation_from_Afghanistan, 122-thousand people were airlifted out of Afghanistan while the west left Afghanistan recently.

But if you're saying we're not doing enough :
Afghans refuse to fight to the death for their own rights. Yes, while the west was in Afghanistan, 60k Afghan soldiers bravely gave their lives, but they folded en-masse once the west retreated their boots on the ground.
Afghans show up for elections with only about 4% of the total population.

I agree with Biden on this point. You can't expect the west to keep shedding blood and massive amounts of treasure for such people. It's pointless to keep trying, and leads to endless wars.

The Afghans themselves chose to live under Taliban rule, and while they were brave enough to hold demonstrations for their rights, it remains to be seen if the Taliban can actually modernize themselves enough to grant enough freedom to modern thinking Afghans.

But don't pin the blame on us. We had to get in there to combat alQuada, we did that (very effectively i might say), and i don't feel we need to stay there to fight the fight that Afghans themselves are unwilling to fight.
Only if the Taliban is foolish enough to once again let terror groups operate in Afghanistan, do we have a real need to project force into Afghanistan again, but that might not mean unseating the Taliban, especially if they are willing to assist in the eradication of terror groups operating in their territory.
 
Good news,

Looks like Allah has given the Afghan Taliban a second chance.
 
Afghanistan holds 40 million people. According to https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/8/12/10-maps-to-understand-afghanistan-interactive, they produced 2.6 million refugees who now live outside Afghanistan.
According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_evacuation_from_Afghanistan, 122-thousand people were airlifted out of Afghanistan while the west left Afghanistan recently.

But if you're saying we're not doing enough :
Afghans refuse to fight to the death for their own rights. Yes, while the west was in Afghanistan, 60k Afghan soldiers bravely gave their lives, but they folded en-masse once the west retreated their boots on the ground.
Afghans show up for elections with only about 4% of the total population.

I agree with Biden on this point. You can't expect the west to keep shedding blood and massive amounts of treasure for such people. It's pointless to keep trying, and leads to endless wars.

The Afghans themselves chose to live under Taliban rule, and while they were brave enough to hold demonstrations for their rights, it remains to be seen if the Taliban can actually modernize themselves enough to grant enough freedom to modern thinking Afghans.

But don't pin the blame on us. We had to get in there to combat alQuada, we did that (very effectively i might say), and i don't feel we need to stay there to fight the fight that Afghans themselves are unwilling to fight.
Only if the Taliban is foolish enough to once again let terror groups operate in Afghanistan, do we have a real need to project force into Afghanistan again, but that might not mean unseating the Taliban, especially if they are willing to assist in the eradication of terror groups operating in their territory.

How many did the European and Western countries evacuate? You still haven't answered the question. The answer is embarrassing.
 
How many did the European and Western countries evacuate? You still haven't answered the question. The answer is embarrassing.
your understanding of the situation, and of my answer as well, is laughable and pitiful at the same time.

i *did* answer your question, with source, in the first paragraph of my reply.
 
your understanding of the situation, and of my answer as well, is laughable and pitiful at the same time.

i *did* answer your question, with source, in the first paragraph of my reply.

LOL

Have a good look at the sentiment in your own country. Afghans are not welcome.
 
I knew they would because they like to have women doctors and nurses and teacher for other girls, where will these female Docs, nurses and teachers come from if they will barred them for education? they will have separate classes for them for sure, but lets hope they keep their promises.
 



This is certainly a step towards modernization, which is something i very much welcome.

Please also consider letting women work, somehow.
To keep them prisoners in their own homes, able to go out only with a male escort, is also too restrictive to gain the respect and support of the rest of the world.
Clarification is needed whether the teachers in such gender segregated female institutions also need to be female?
There may not be many such qualified female Afghans left in Afghanistan to teach.

If so, then restricting to gender segregated schooling would essentially mean no schooling for girls.
 
Clarification is needed whether the teachers in such gender segregated female institutions also need to be female?
There may not be many such qualified female Afghans left in Afghanistan to teach.

If so, then restricting to gender segregated schooling would essentially mean no schooling for girls.

Ganesh seeks clarification. What do you intend to do anyway? Liberate and Hindunize Afghan women?
 
Clarification is needed whether the teachers in such gender segregated female institutions also need to be female?
There may not be many such qualified female Afghans left in Afghanistan to teach.

If so, then restricting to gender segregated schooling would essentially mean no schooling for girls.

Pictures online show class rooms segregated with male teachers.
 
LOL

Have a good look at the sentiment in your own country. Afghans are not welcome.
don't portray demonstrations by our small but sometimes vocal right wing minority as a measure of our average population's opinion, or the actions of our politicians.
we will house as many as we can, but we also have a home pricing issue that's so big now that there was a large demonstration about it in my own city (Amsterdam) today.
Pictures online show class rooms segregated with male teachers.
makes sense. at this infancy stage of Afghan women's rights development, it's probably too early for women to be in teaching or leadership positions.
that took *decades* of peaceful protesting and petitioning over here in the west, too.
 
don't portray demonstrations by our small but sometimes vocal right wing minority as a measure of our average population's opinion, or the actions of our politicians.
we will house as many as we can, but we also have a home pricing issue that's so big now that there was a large demonstration about it in my own city (Amsterdam) today.

makes sense. at this infancy stage of Afghan women's rights development, it's probably too early for women to be in teaching or leadership positions.
that took *decades* of peaceful protesting and petitioning over here in the west, too.

You haven't done anything. The numbers are insignificant. They will remain insignificant because the vast majority of Europeans don't want Afghan refugees in their country.

Your words don't match your actions. If Afghans were a priority you would have rescued at least a million by now. The numbers are shoddy.
 
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