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Taliban attacks PA for the third day from Afghanistan. America asleep!

This is something serious. If NATO and ISAF are unable to control the border then they should admit their shortcomings. It also goes to show that our Military and the intel was right. There are a lot of anti-Pakistan elements inside Afghanistan who intend to use the sanctuary to attack Pakistan.

After these events, will the US still have any moral grounds to demand action against terrorists from the Fauj?

If $10 billion every month are insufficient to control the situation in Afghanistan, how can one expect the Pakistani Military with an annual budget smaller than that to "DO MORE" ?
 
Non state actor. What PA is doing there...

Non-state actors, huh?
I hope certain countries don't mind the non-state actors themselves and stop associating ISI with these non-state actors.
 
Non-state actors, huh?
I hope certain countries don't mind the non-state actors themselves and stop associating ISI with these non-state actors.

Well if you don't have balls, brain wash some kids and send across boarder. Say non state actors.
 
Well if you don't have balls, brain wash some kids and send across boarder. Say non state actors.

Your relevance to the topic is? we are discussing something else here, Now don't come here with your sarcastic bad mouth and derail the thread, go back to indian forum, and deal with your matters and let us deal with ours.Thankyou
 
Pakistan forces back militants near Afghan border


PESHAWAR, Pakistan – Pakistani helicopters and artillery on Friday forced back militants who crossed over from Afghanistan this week and triggered battles that have killed scores of people
, an official said. The government demanded that NATO and Afghan troops do more to control insurgents on their side of the long, porous border.

The Pakistani Taliban, the country's most prominent militant group, claimed responsibility for the incursion in a telephone call to reporters. If true, the group's presence in Afghanistan's Kunar province marks a new demonstration of the instability of the border area 10 years after the U.S.-led invasion of Afghanistan.

Taliban spokesman Ahsanullah Ahsan said between 40 and 50 fighters took part in the raid, much less than the 400 claimed by the government. He said just two of the militants died and that many Pakistani troops were killed.

The insurgents entered Pakistan's Upper Dir region from Kunar province on Wednesday. They attacked a security checkpoint, villages and schools, according to the Pakistani government.

Regional administrator Ghulam Mohammad Khan said the militants were retreating Friday and under Pakistani attack in one district.

As of Thursday night, 25 soldiers, 35 militants and three civilians had died in the clashes, Khan said. He had no information about casualties from Friday's fighting. Reporters were blocked from traveling to the scene of the fighting.

A Pakistani government statement late Thursday said the foreign secretary had "stressed the need for stern action by the Afghan army, U.S. and NATO/ISAF forces in the area against militants and their hideouts in Afghanistan and against organizational support for the militants."


Beyond emphasizing the difficulties of fighting an enemy that pays no attention to borders, the battle hints at challenges ahead for the U.S. and Pakistan when Washington begins withdrawing troops from Afghanistan later this year. Pakistan maintains that NATO already needs more troops along the Afghan side of the border.

In the past, NATO and Pakistani forces have staged coordinated "hammer and anvil" operations against militants on the border, but relations between Washington and Islamabad have hit a particularly rough patch, especially since the unilateral American raid in Pakistan that killed Osama bin Laden on May 2.

Even so, NATO officials say that border cooperation has not suffered as a result of the chill in ties.

Elsewhere along the border, a volley of American drone-fired missiles hit three compounds in a northwestern insurgent stronghold, killing at least four people, intelligence officials said.

The officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity in line with department policy, did not say who was killed.

America has launched several hundred drone strikes targeting militants. They are intensely unpopular among many Pakistanis and are publicly criticized by the government. Though they are believed to have tacit consent from the Pakistani military, relations have soured this year.

U.S. officials do not comment on the CIA-led program but privately say the attacks are highly accurate.

This week, Lt. Gen. Asif Yasin Malik, who commands Pakistani troops in the tribal regions, said the attacks "were nothing to do with me" and said he did not know whether the missiles were killing militants.

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Associated Press writer Rasool Dawar contributed to this report.


It is feeling good first time hearing Pakistan said to US/NATO -- "DO MORE":cheesy:

:pakistan:
 
certainly.. NATO and American are FATASSES.. they are simply dying without trying to do more. HEHE
 
Sorry but Govt did not say DO MORE, only rehman malik "appealed" to NATO to take notice...

the official words of rehman malik "I would like to appeal to nato"...:hitwall:gulabi english
 
Pakistan forces back militants near Afghan border


PESHAWAR, Pakistan – Pakistani helicopters and artillery on Friday forced back militants who crossed over from Afghanistan this week and triggered battles that have killed scores of people
, an official said. The government demanded that NATO and Afghan troops do more to control insurgents on their side of the long, porous border.

The Pakistani Taliban, the country's most prominent militant group, claimed responsibility for the incursion in a telephone call to reporters. If true, the group's presence in Afghanistan's Kunar province marks a new demonstration of the instability of the border area 10 years after the U.S.-led invasion of Afghanistan.

Taliban spokesman Ahsanullah Ahsan said between 40 and 50 fighters took part in the raid, much less than the 400 claimed by the government. He said just two of the militants died and that many Pakistani troops were killed.

The insurgents entered Pakistan's Upper Dir region from Kunar province on Wednesday. They attacked a security checkpoint, villages and schools, according to the Pakistani government.

Regional administrator Ghulam Mohammad Khan said the militants were retreating Friday and under Pakistani attack in one district.

As of Thursday night, 25 soldiers, 35 militants and three civilians had died in the clashes, Khan said. He had no information about casualties from Friday's fighting. Reporters were blocked from traveling to the scene of the fighting.

A Pakistani government statement late Thursday said the foreign secretary had "stressed the need for stern action by the Afghan army, U.S. and NATO/ISAF forces in the area against militants and their hideouts in Afghanistan and against organizational support for the militants."


Beyond emphasizing the difficulties of fighting an enemy that pays no attention to borders, the battle hints at challenges ahead for the U.S. and Pakistan when Washington begins withdrawing troops from Afghanistan later this year. Pakistan maintains that NATO already needs more troops along the Afghan side of the border.

In the past, NATO and Pakistani forces have staged coordinated "hammer and anvil" operations against militants on the border, but relations between Washington and Islamabad have hit a particularly rough patch, especially since the unilateral American raid in Pakistan that killed Osama bin Laden on May 2.

Even so, NATO officials say that border cooperation has not suffered as a result of the chill in ties.

Elsewhere along the border, a volley of American drone-fired missiles hit three compounds in a northwestern insurgent stronghold, killing at least four people, intelligence officials said.

The officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity in line with department policy, did not say who was killed.

America has launched several hundred drone strikes targeting militants. They are intensely unpopular among many Pakistanis and are publicly criticized by the government. Though they are believed to have tacit consent from the Pakistani military, relations have soured this year.

U.S. officials do not comment on the CIA-led program but privately say the attacks are highly accurate.

This week, Lt. Gen. Asif Yasin Malik, who commands Pakistani troops in the tribal regions, said the attacks "were nothing to do with me" and said he did not know whether the missiles were killing militants.

___

Associated Press writer Rasool Dawar contributed to this report.


It is feeling good first time hearing Pakistan said to US/NATO -- "DO MORE":cheesy:

:pakistan:

US wanted to engage Pakistan Army is long Gurrilla war but wanted peace deal with Afghan Talaban , Haqqani group is supporting Afghan Talaban from last 10 year , NATO and US failed to defeat them how Pakistan Army could defeat them if all these groups declared war against Pakistan.

US and NATO expenditure is 150 Billion per year what will be Pakistan Army expenditure on this war?

Pakistan ARMY annual budget is 1.5 Billion , who will provide expense of this war ? Pakistan already suffered losses of 35000 deaths and 70 Billion US dollars.

If this war started annual Pak Army estimated expense will be 25 Billion USD per year

Who will defend western boarders and Kashmir etc
 
Afghan Taliban deny involvement in Dir attacks.

PESHAWAR: Disowning the attacks in Upper Dir district, the Afghan Taliban on Friday said they had nothing to do with acts of sabotage in Pakistan. “We are facing a big enemy in Afghanistan and fighting its forces. We are active neither in Pakistan nor any other part of the world. Our operations are restricted to Afghanistan,” Zabihullah Mujahid, a spokesman for the Taliban, told the Afghan Islamic Press by phone from an undisclosed location.

“Not a single Afghan Talib took part in the Dir attacks. These are false and baseless allegations levelled against us. What happened in Dir is a local problem and not related to us,” he argued.

Bloody clashes between Pakistani security forces and armed militants have been continuing for the past three days in the border area of Upper Dir, which shares the borders with Afghanistan’s Kunar province. Around 27 security men and several civilians along with some militants were killed in the incident. There were some reports that the attackers were Afghan Taliban who crossed into Pakistan from the bordering Kunar province.
 
Its pretty ironical. Pakistan is blaming Afghanistan for the same thing it has been doing for decades, where Taliban from its safe havens in Waziristan kept wrecking havoc in Afghanistan. They do say what goes around, comes around ..

what nonsense are you writing man?. first the ruskies came and destroyed afghansitan, then they fought amongst themselves and now iits the ISAF. and before the ruskiies they also fought amongst themselves. and before claiming that we created the taliban , get to know the facts first that the US also had a big hand in that.
 
the US asks us to launch an op in NW, but they should be told to first sort out their place and see 200 people from those shitty drones, the 2 people on our side can be taken care of by PA.
 
"Before talking about NWA operation, Nato should prove that it has control over Afghanistan at least."

Well...at least we're fighting and have been for ten years even if 6,000 miles from home. Afghan taliban have sat upon your lands for ten years now and all Pakistan has done is talk.

There are 100,000 U.S. troops fighting every damned day from Nimroz and Herat north to Kunduz and Mazur-I-Sharif, east to Kunar, Khost, Nangahar and Nuristan and south to Kandahar and Helmand. Afghanistan is not our land but we are there fighting and, sometimes, dying. In Pakistan your precious sovereignty has been conveniently violated by afghan taliban usurpers for ten years yet not a peep from the Pakistanis here.

Why?

Do you wish for these men using your land without ONE offensive ever conducted against them to win in Afghanistan?

Of course you do. As that's the case aren't you really the enemy of Afghanistan, the U.N., N.A.T.O and America?

Yup.

Naturally, nobody here wishes to see their mothers, sisters, wives and daughters caned and beaten by TTP. OTOH, nobody cares if they're afghan women. Works for you. Keeps those silly pashtun busy thinking of something other than a Punjab empire.:lol:

Just wish we could all be honest and declare war upon each other. Things would be so much less frustrating.
 
"Before talking about NWA operation, Nato should prove that it has control over Afghanistan at least."

Well...at least we're fighting and have been for ten years even if 6,000 miles from home. Afghan taliban have sat upon your lands for ten years now and all Pakistan has done is talk.

The problem arises when after 3 days of attacks the US could not stop attacks originating from its own territory and Pakistan had to push them back on their own without "hot pursuit". Hence, America is asleep! This incident has shown how ready America is to walk its talk.
 
"Before talking about NWA operation, Nato should prove that it has control over Afghanistan at least."

Well...at least we're fighting and have been for ten years even if 6,000 miles from home. Afghan taliban have sat upon your lands for ten years now and all Pakistan has done is talk.

There are 100,000 U.S. troops fighting every damned day from Nimroz and Herat north to Kunduz and Mazur-I-Sharif, east to Kunar, Khost, Nangahar and Nuristan and south to Kandahar and Helmand. Afghanistan is not our land but we are there fighting and, sometimes, dying. In Pakistan your precious sovereignty has been conveniently violated by afghan taliban usurpers for ten years yet not a peep from the Pakistanis here.

Why?

Do you wish for these men using your land without ONE offensive ever conducted against them to win in Afghanistan?

Of course you do. As that's the case aren't you really the enemy of Afghanistan, the U.N., N.A.T.O and America?

Yup.

Naturally, nobody here wishes to see their mothers, sisters, wives and daughters caned and beaten by TTP. OTOH, nobody cares if they're afghan women. Works for you. Keeps those silly pashtun busy thinking of something other than a Punjab empire.:lol:

Just wish we could all be honest and declare war upon each other. Things would be so much less frustrating.


For last ten years, what have you done really? Karzai issuing warning to you guys not to kill innocents? Taliban emerging back and up beat once again? Pakistan is destabilized due to your invasion? What exactly did you have dont that contributed towards the global security?Instead of your incasion and your continuing invasion. World is becoming more dangerous now
 
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