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Taking PMLN lies about Chinese investment & Presidential visit to the cleaners
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Where are lies? So far from the looks of it Only liar here is the one open such threads again n again, even after so many refutes..
Last time the only liar here is Imran Khan
1) first lie, No visit was planned (Reference from both foreign affairs should be enough to proof)
Ref: Foreign Ministry Spokesperson Qin Gang's Remarks on the Postponement of President Xi Jinping's Visit to Pakistan
Ref: Ministry of Foreign Affairs - Islamabad, Pakistan
Last time the only liar here is Imran Khan
1) first lie, No visit was planned (Reference from both foreign affairs should be enough to proof)
Ref: Foreign Ministry Spokesperson Qin Gang's Remarks on the Postponement of President Xi Jinping's Visit to Pakistan
2) Second Point where Imran Khan claim these are actually loans by Pakistani Government, not investments. There are Three parts of it.
a) Power sector funding pure commercial based to Private Companies, not to Pakistani Government so baseless allegation
ref: Going public: Govt unveils list of 36 projects to parliamentary panel – The Express Tribune
b) Connecting Kashghar to Gwadar is based on pure country to country "concessional funding" means after construction road will be taxed/toll plaza etc to recover. Again no loans.
ref: Going public: Govt unveils list of 36 projects to parliamentary panel – The Express Tribune
c) other projects related to provinces, only provinces will decide what projects, how etc stuff (Keep in mind KPK CM rejected to even visit china, forget even decide about payments)
Ref: China asks Pakistan to submit details of all development projects - Pakistan - DAWN.COM
Ps: I specifically selected back dates references to ensure nothing biased comes in.
3) Last Imran Khan put allegation on Chinese President to pay share to Nawaz Sharif.
>> This allegation is enough to be rejected without even searching for proofs..
a) Power sector funding pure commercial based to Private Companies, not to Pakistani Government so baseless allegation
ref: Going public: Govt unveils list of 36 projects to parliamentary panel – The Express Tribune
b) Connecting Kashghar to Gwadar is based on pure country to country "concessional funding" means after construction road will be taxed/toll plaza etc to recover. Again no loans.
ref: Going public: Govt unveils list of 36 projects to parliamentary panel – The Express Tribune
c) other projects related to provinces, only provinces will decide what projects, how etc stuff (Keep in mind KPK CM rejected to even visit china, forget even decide about payments)
Ref: China asks Pakistan to submit details of all development projects - Pakistan - DAWN.COM
Ps: I specifically selected back dates references to ensure nothing biased comes in.
3) Last Imran Khan put allegation on Chinese President to pay share to Nawaz Sharif.
>> This allegation is enough to be rejected without even searching for proofs..
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PTI has more support in educated class that is why they have more prescience on internet. may it fb, twitter any forum. May it be engineering colleges, business schools, medical colleges or organization. these people are major users of internet, Moreover, just see PTI has more supporters in educated parts of lahore, Islamabad, karachi.. where there is less literacy (Rural areas) rate in punjab, PMLN is strong
That's your prospective. My prospective says PTI is generally supported by non-experience kids, who just came to the social network. My father is MSc Botnay, but these social networks are kind of alien tech for him. (He used to have latest tech in his own time).
FB, Twiter, don't give a shit about educated or illiterate people .. even my son (KG-2) can go to FB and update his status (ofcourse with selfies, likes etc)
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Rescheduled itinerary: Chinese mission says fresh dates eyed for Xi’s trip
By Qamar Zaman / INP
Published: September 8, 2014
China's President Xi Jinping. PHOTO: REUTERS
ISLAMABAD:
Islamabad and Beijing are working on new dates for President Xi Jinping’s visit to Pakistan, a senior official at China’s diplomatic mission said on Sunday.
Talking to The Express Tribune, the official said the visit, which was reportedly originally scheduled for the middle of this month, was postponed upon mutual agreement between both sides.
“We [China and Pakistan] mutually agreed to postpone President Xi’s visit and are currently working on new dates which should not be far,” he said. His comment contradicted the statement issued by China’s foreign ministry a day earlier and corroborated the Foreign Office’s statement released the same day.
At a news conference on Saturday, the spokesperson for the Chinese foreign ministry denied the country had officially informed Pakistan about President Xi’s visit. The Pakistani Foreign Office, meanwhile, announced the postponement of the trip was ‘mutually agreed’.
According to the official, the Chinese Embassy had been really busy over the last few weeks with making arrangements for the high-level visit.
“We had been really busy during the last few weeks in making arrangements for the visit of President Xi,” he said, noting that it would be Xi’s first visit to Pakistan since he took office and the first visit by a Chinese president in the last eight years.
When asked about the reasons behind the postponement, the official said the decision was made in light of the current security situation in Pakistan. He expressed hope that relevant parties in Pakistan would work together bearing in mind the fundamental interests of the state and the people.
In response to a question regarding the Chinese foreign ministry’s statement, the official said it pertained only to the official announcement of the visit.
The official also said postponing President XI’s visit has delayed the signing ceremonies of several projects. Both sides, as such, are exploring options to keep the momentum going, he said.
“We are trying to find out ways to get these documents signed so that the momentum is not affected.”
The official said there was a long list of projects up for signing, some of which have already started and some of which, such as the Lahore-Karachi motorway and the economic corridor, have been finalised after discussions. Several others, he added, are currently being discussed.
When asked whether China was offering Pakistan a loan or going for investment, the official said “we have variety of arrangements when it comes to economic cooperation, [all] transparent, fair and mutually beneficial.”
According to the official, President Xi would also be visiting India and Sri Lanka. “But Pakistan and China’s relationship can’t be compared with [our ties with] India.”
“Our [China and Pakistan’s] cooperation goes beyond [development] projects,” he said while referring to both countries’ collaboration on political affairs, global issues and counter-terrorism along with people-to-people contacts. “We have a history of bilaterally relations and a bright future.”
Referring to the four visits to China by Pakistani leadership in the last few months, the official said “no world leader has visited China so frequently.”
Meanwhile, in an informal chat with newsmen on Sunday, a senior Chinese embassy official brushed aside impressions that delaying President Xi’s visit to Pakistan would affect ties between the two countries.
“How can the postponement of a single visit between the two countries their decades old historical strategic partnership?” he said.
Published in The Express Tribune, September 8th, 2014.
By Qamar Zaman / INP
Published: September 8, 2014
China's President Xi Jinping. PHOTO: REUTERS
ISLAMABAD:
Islamabad and Beijing are working on new dates for President Xi Jinping’s visit to Pakistan, a senior official at China’s diplomatic mission said on Sunday.
Talking to The Express Tribune, the official said the visit, which was reportedly originally scheduled for the middle of this month, was postponed upon mutual agreement between both sides.
“We [China and Pakistan] mutually agreed to postpone President Xi’s visit and are currently working on new dates which should not be far,” he said. His comment contradicted the statement issued by China’s foreign ministry a day earlier and corroborated the Foreign Office’s statement released the same day.
At a news conference on Saturday, the spokesperson for the Chinese foreign ministry denied the country had officially informed Pakistan about President Xi’s visit. The Pakistani Foreign Office, meanwhile, announced the postponement of the trip was ‘mutually agreed’.
According to the official, the Chinese Embassy had been really busy over the last few weeks with making arrangements for the high-level visit.
“We had been really busy during the last few weeks in making arrangements for the visit of President Xi,” he said, noting that it would be Xi’s first visit to Pakistan since he took office and the first visit by a Chinese president in the last eight years.
When asked about the reasons behind the postponement, the official said the decision was made in light of the current security situation in Pakistan. He expressed hope that relevant parties in Pakistan would work together bearing in mind the fundamental interests of the state and the people.
In response to a question regarding the Chinese foreign ministry’s statement, the official said it pertained only to the official announcement of the visit.
The official also said postponing President XI’s visit has delayed the signing ceremonies of several projects. Both sides, as such, are exploring options to keep the momentum going, he said.
“We are trying to find out ways to get these documents signed so that the momentum is not affected.”
The official said there was a long list of projects up for signing, some of which have already started and some of which, such as the Lahore-Karachi motorway and the economic corridor, have been finalised after discussions. Several others, he added, are currently being discussed.
When asked whether China was offering Pakistan a loan or going for investment, the official said “we have variety of arrangements when it comes to economic cooperation, [all] transparent, fair and mutually beneficial.”
According to the official, President Xi would also be visiting India and Sri Lanka. “But Pakistan and China’s relationship can’t be compared with [our ties with] India.”
“Our [China and Pakistan’s] cooperation goes beyond [development] projects,” he said while referring to both countries’ collaboration on political affairs, global issues and counter-terrorism along with people-to-people contacts. “We have a history of bilaterally relations and a bright future.”
Referring to the four visits to China by Pakistani leadership in the last few months, the official said “no world leader has visited China so frequently.”
Meanwhile, in an informal chat with newsmen on Sunday, a senior Chinese embassy official brushed aside impressions that delaying President Xi’s visit to Pakistan would affect ties between the two countries.
“How can the postponement of a single visit between the two countries their decades old historical strategic partnership?” he said.
Published in The Express Tribune, September 8th, 2014.
Rescheduled itinerary: Chinese mission says fresh dates eyed for Xi’s trip
By Qamar Zaman / INP
Published: September 8, 2014
China's President Xi Jinping. PHOTO: REUTERS
ISLAMABAD:
Islamabad and Beijing are working on new dates for President Xi Jinping’s visit to Pakistan, a senior official at China’s diplomatic mission said on Sunday.
Talking to The Express Tribune, the official said the visit, which was reportedly originally scheduled for the middle of this month, was postponed upon mutual agreement between both sides.
“We [China and Pakistan] mutually agreed to postpone President Xi’s visit and are currently working on new dates which should not be far,” he said. His comment contradicted the statement issued by China’s foreign ministry a day earlier and corroborated the Foreign Office’s statement released the same day.
At a news conference on Saturday, the spokesperson for the Chinese foreign ministry denied the country had officially informed Pakistan about President Xi’s visit. The Pakistani Foreign Office, meanwhile, announced the postponement of the trip was ‘mutually agreed’.
According to the official, the Chinese Embassy had been really busy over the last few weeks with making arrangements for the high-level visit.
“We had been really busy during the last few weeks in making arrangements for the visit of President Xi,” he said, noting that it would be Xi’s first visit to Pakistan since he took office and the first visit by a Chinese president in the last eight years.
When asked about the reasons behind the postponement, the official said the decision was made in light of the current security situation in Pakistan. He expressed hope that relevant parties in Pakistan would work together bearing in mind the fundamental interests of the state and the people.
In response to a question regarding the Chinese foreign ministry’s statement, the official said it pertained only to the official announcement of the visit.
The official also said postponing President XI’s visit has delayed the signing ceremonies of several projects. Both sides, as such, are exploring options to keep the momentum going, he said.
“We are trying to find out ways to get these documents signed so that the momentum is not affected.”
The official said there was a long list of projects up for signing, some of which have already started and some of which, such as the Lahore-Karachi motorway and the economic corridor, have been finalised after discussions. Several others, he added, are currently being discussed.
When asked whether China was offering Pakistan a loan or going for investment, the official said “we have variety of arrangements when it comes to economic cooperation, [all] transparent, fair and mutually beneficial.”
According to the official, President Xi would also be visiting India and Sri Lanka. “But Pakistan and China’s relationship can’t be compared with [our ties with] India.”
“Our [China and Pakistan’s] cooperation goes beyond [development] projects,” he said while referring to both countries’ collaboration on political affairs, global issues and counter-terrorism along with people-to-people contacts. “We have a history of bilaterally relations and a bright future.”
Referring to the four visits to China by Pakistani leadership in the last few months, the official said “no world leader has visited China so frequently.”
Meanwhile, in an informal chat with newsmen on Sunday, a senior Chinese embassy official brushed aside impressions that delaying President Xi’s visit to Pakistan would affect ties between the two countries.
“How can the postponement of a single visit between the two countries their decades old historical strategic partnership?” he said.
Published in The Express Tribune, September 8th, 2014.
Ohh come on, I have posted references from FO, and you are posting link from some newapaper? Who is responsible for talks between the country on such issues? FO or ExpressTurbenal?
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Oyee Mera Veer, Hosla .. Take a Chill Pill... lol
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Didn't get it, how you are replying me with photoshop? Check my references.
I don't.. I just want the system to keep running, and improvements will come what's so ever. It's meant to happen. May be tomorrow in next elections we have a visionary leader who can see's the future rather then just bunch of political preachers.
Nawaz Sharif may be better PM between what we have now, but definitely to derive the country to be on top, we need a leader.
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