Taiwanese protest against Japan's rising militarism

[Aepsilons]

In addition, stay in Taiwan three hundred thousand Japanese have not been repatriated, was the Chinese government's mercy. Today, some people of Japanese descent in Taiwan, is also relatively small, in the general population.

There were over 500,000 Japanese civilians in Taiwan by the end of the war. That was 1/12th of the entire Taiwanese population. Many of them stayed in Taiwan, marrying with other Taiwanese people. Now Taiwan's population is over 25 million.

I do believe that many Taiwanese people probably don't identify that they are Japanese decent, or , perhaps, many of them do not know they are Japanese.

Remember that 500,000 Japanese civilians (out of 6 million overall) in Taiwan never returned to Japan. Also, Japanese soldiers that were stationed in Taiwan stayed in Taiwan. Not many returned to Japan, many stayed in that country. As you may know that Japanese soldiers did not commit any crimes in Taiwan in the war, and Taiwan was practically untouched during the war.

You know that Taiwan was really developed by Japan during the colonial years, right? It was even more industrialized that some areas of Japan proper.

 

[Sonyuke_Songpaisan]

There was a time when Taiwan was part of Japan. For 50 years Taiwan (Taihoku) was a Japanese territory. And Taiwan people were considered Japanese.

So , naturally, we are eternally linked with Taiwan. And most Japanese have very strong, positive opinion of Taiwan and Taiwan people.

Korea was once Japanese land, so how about it?

 

[Aepsilons]

Korea was once Japanese land, so how about it?

Yes, we consider Korea historically linked with us as well. The industrialization that Japan brought to Korea cannot be denied or ignored. Under Japan's protection and warm embrace, we brought industrialization, modern (western) education, modern health care to Korea. Under Japanese rule, Korea's population increased:

Note that in 1910 it was at around 12.5 million. By the end of 1945, their population was at 26 million. Let us juxtapose this to the industrial revolution, agricultural revolution, health revolution and educational revolution we introduced to Korea:

The rise in population is directly related to the growth of industry, fisher, forestry, and agriculture.

Now look at educational development under Japanese colonial period:

Japan influenced the literacy rate in Korea, my dear. Prior to our arrival, they had practicaly no schools, under us, we built over 3,000 schools, which built the foundation of educating over 2 million Korean children. These educated Koreans would , in turn, play a role in South Korea's post-independence period.

Actually, all of the colonial possessions of Japan : 1) S. Korea and 2) Taiwan are Asian Tigers and one of the leading economies in Asia.

 

[Sonyuke_Songpaisan]

Yes, we consider Korea historically linked with us as well. The industrialization that Japan brought to Korea cannot be denied or ignored. Under Japan's protection and warm embrace, we brought industrialization, modern (western) education, modern health care to Korea. Under Japanese rule, Korea's population increased:

Note that in 1910 it was at around 12.5 million. By the end of 1945, their population was at 26 million. Let us juxtapose this to the industrial revolution, agricultural revolution, health revolution and educational revolution we introduced to Korea:

The rise in population is directly related to the growth of industry, fisher, forestry, and agriculture.

Now look at educational development under Japanese colonial period:

Japan influenced the literacy rate in Korea, my dear. Prior to our arrival, they had practicaly no schools, under us, we built over 3,000 schools, which built the foundation of educating over 2 million Korean children. These educated Koreans would , in turn, play a role in South Korea's post-independence period.

Actually, all of the colonial possessions of Japan : 1) S. Korea and 2) Taiwan are Asian Tigers and one of the leading economies in Asia.

so, wants to have it again? there is no harm to korean when JP occupied it?

 

[IsaacNewton]

@Nihonjin1051

Mao Zedong recruited many Japanese officers into his army after Soviet captured 1.2 million soldiers during the end of WW2.

In fact, Mao wouldn't have won the civil war without the captured Japanese equipments and the officers to teach them how to use it.

There are many Japanese people still in China today, so by that view, is China historically linked to Japan since there are Japanese blood in China?

 

[Aepsilons]

so, wants to have it again? there is no harm to korean when JP occupied it?

Occupying Korea? No. The age of imperialism is over, friend. What I was saying is that there have been massive contribution(s) Japan gave to Korea. I believe that most of the good we contributed is drowned by the anti-Japanese propaganda being enunciated by their government.

@Nihonjin1051

Mao Zedong recruited many Japanese officers into his army after Soviet captured 1.2 million soldiers during the end of WW2.

In fact, Mao wouldn't have won the civil war without the captured Japanese equipments and the officers to teach them how to use it.

There are many Japanese people still in China today, so by that view, is China historically linked to Japan since there are Japanese blood in China?

@IsaacNewton ,

Many of the Japanese soldiers who were sent to the frontiers in Asia -- never returned to their Ancestral Land of Japan. There were over 130,000 Japanese who fought in Papua New Guinea, tho many died in the battles against the Allies, many who did survive stayed in Papua. There were over 200,000 soldiers who occupied Indonesia. After the war's end, many Japanese soldiers returned to Japan, but there were thousands who chose to stay in Indonesia and aided the local Malays to fight against the Dutch. The same also in Vietnam. So I am not surprised if some of our soldiers decided to stay in China. Remember that by the end of the war, the size of the Kwangtung Army in China was over 600,000 strong.

I would not be surprised if many Japanese soldiers abandoned their Japanese identity and decided to start new lives in China as Chinese people.

 

[dlclong]

There were over 500,000 Japanese civilians in Taiwan by the end of the war. That was 1/12th of the entire Taiwanese population. Many of them stayed in Taiwan, marrying with other Taiwanese people. Now Taiwan's population is over 25 million.

I do believe that many Taiwanese people probably don't identify that they are Japanese decent, or , perhaps, many of them do not know they are Japanese.

Remember that 500,000 Japanese civilians (out of 6 million overall) in Taiwan never returned to Japan. Also, Japanese soldiers that were stationed in Taiwan stayed in Taiwan. Not many returned to Japan, many stayed in that country. As you may know that Japanese soldiers did not commit any crimes in Taiwan in the war, and Taiwan was practically untouched during the war.

You know that Taiwan was really developed by Japan during the colonial years, right? It was even more industrialized that some areas of Japan proper.

The Japanese then stay in Taiwan, up to the total population does not exceed 4.6-7.5%. Relatively speaking, the Japanese descent in taiwan , Negligible，taiwanren have more chinese descent,heritage China Cultural , sayingChinese. In northeast China, some peole also Japanese descent, is it also Japan's land? Thailand 30%people More or less have Chinese descent, lol
Japan colonized Korea, also have Japanese descent.It does not mean anything
Korea, Vietnam also have Chinese descent, also has a very long history belongs to China.
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Of course, there have such as lee Teng-hui Japanese descent, posing as Han Chinese, fraud Taiwanren, yearned for the Japanese people

 

[Aepsilons]

The Japanese then stay in Taiwan, up to the total population does not exceed 4.6-7.5%. Relatively speaking, the Japanese descent in taiwan , Negligible，taiwanren have more chinese descent,heritage China Cultural , sayingChinese. In northeast China, some peole also Japanese descent, is it also Japan's land? Thailand 30%people More or less have Chinese descent, lol
Japan colonized Korea, also have Japanese descent.It does not mean anything
Korea, Vietnam also have Chinese descent, also has a very long history belongs to China.
.

Of course, there have such as lee Teng-hui Japanese descent, posing as Han Chinese, fraud Taiwanren, yearned for the Japanese people

You're failing to see the point of my message. Japanese is firmly intertwined in the Taiwanese identity, and thus, is eternally linked with Taiwan. This reflects on our positive bilateral relations. Taiwanese also do not require a visa to come to Japan. Taiwanese can easily claim permanent resident status in Japan and eventual Japanese citizenship.

Of course, there have such as lee Teng-hui Japanese descent, posing as Han Chinese, fraud Taiwanren, yearned for the Japanese people

It matters not whether he may have Japanese blood or not. The fact that he has positive views of Japan and Japanese, which is actually very common for older generation Taiwanese, is because they experienced many good under our rule. Taiwan was an Imperial possession, and received considerable investment in all aspects by the Japanese Government.

This is why Taiwanese, in general, have very favorable views towards Japan and Japanese.

 

[dlclong]

You're failing to see the point of my message. Japanese is firmly intertwined in the Taiwanese identity, and thus, is eternally linked with Taiwan. This reflects on our positive bilateral relations. Taiwanese also do not require a visa to come to Japan. Taiwanese can easily claim permanent resident status in Japan and eventual Japanese citizenship.



It matters not whether he may have Japanese blood or not. The fact that he has positive views of Japan and Japanese, which is actually very common for older generation Taiwanese, is because they experienced many good under our rule. Taiwan was an Imperial possession, and received considerable investment in all aspects by the Japanese Government.

This is why Taiwanese, in general, have very favorable views towards Japan and Japanese.

hehe, the Japanese just to take advantage of Taiwan against Mainland China, the Japanese fear of China reunification. What is friendship! ! ?
Japanese people in Taiwan, such as Lee Teng-hui, change the name ,Behind secretly control Taiwan education, media, publicity Japan is good. hehe, Korea has also been colonized by Japan, why Korea did not say Japan is good? Why does Japan concessions Korean ? !

 

[Aepsilons]

Japanese people in Taiwan, such as Lee Teng-hui, change the name ,Behind secretly control Taiwan education, media, publicity Japan is good

If the Japanese who remained in Taiwan decided to assimilate into the newly-independent Taiwan, then it would be only natural if they adopted Chinese names and perform all acts that are required for all Taiwanese citizens. In fact, we cannot blame them if they wished to integrate and assimilate into the Taiwanese society. They're just being good citizens.

Korea has also been colonized by Japan, why Korea did not say Japan is good? Why does Japan concessions Korean ? !

Korea is very unique. Korea was a much larger colony than Taiwan; Taiwan's population was around 5-6 million whereas Korea's was around 20 - 26 million. Due to this large man power, Japan had impressed many Korean men into joining the Imperial Japanese Armed Forces. Hundreds of Thousands of Koreans were conscripted into the Imperial Army, Imperial Air Force and even the Imperial Navy. And to help fuel the Japanese war industry, the Koreans were taxed heavily during the height of the war, and required to endure many sacrifices for the war effort, just as what was required for all Japanese citizens in Japan.

These were retained in the Korean national memory. In addition, Korea is much like Japan in many ways. Koreans are extremely proud people , just like the Japanese race, and so it is only natural if some of them become nationalistic whenever they are reminded that they were once conquered by Japan and colonized by Japan.

 

[NiceGuy]

Only 50 years and it's eternally linked to Taiwan? Tell that to the Viets who was part of China for > 1000 years.

Thats a fake history, u have no video clip to prove it (and ur fake book also only said some parts of Norht VN-not all VN was part of China) when JP has lots of video clip prove that TW was a part of JP in 50 years .

 

[Aepsilons]

Thats a fake history, u have no video clip to prove it when JP has lots of video clip prove that TW was a part of JP in 50 years .

To clarify, Taiwan (Taihoku) was considered sacred Japanese territory. And all Taihokujin (Taiwanese people) were all citizens of Japan, and awarded all rights as any other citizens of the Imperial Japanese Empire.

Many Taihokujin served in the Japanese Military, Imperial Colonial Government, and were even active in the industrialization of the entire Empire. It was common for Taihokujin to work in Japan proper, or even in Korea. Koreans were also working in Japan proper or even in Taihoku. There was a massive human migration throughout the Empire.

In regards to Taiwanese, Korean and Japanese -- they were all referred to as 'Kominka' or 'Subjects of the Emperor'. There was absolute equality.

 

[NiceGuy]

To clarify, Taiwan (Taihoku) was considered sacred Japanese territory. And all Taihokujin (Taiwanese people) were all citizens of Japan, and awarded all rights as any other citizens of the Imperial Japanese Empire.

Many Taihokujin served in the Japanese Military, Imperial Colonial Government, and were even active in the industrialization of the entire Empire. It was common for Taihokujin to work in Japan proper, or even in Korea. Koreans were also working in Japan proper or even in Taihoku. There was a massive human migration throughout the Empire.

In regards to Taiwanese, Korean and Japanese -- they were all referred to as 'Kominka' or 'Subjects of the Emperor'. There was absolute equality.

Yeah, China ceded TW to JP in 1895, so JP have the right to take back TW now . Ur country still hold the Treaty of Shimonoseki ,right ??

 

[Aepsilons]

Yeah, China ceded TW to JP in 1895, so JP have the right to take back TW now . Ur country still hold the Treaty of Shimonoseki ,right ??

The Right wingers in my country are in support of Japanese take over of Taiwan and other territories. But I am in the position that sees that kind of hostile take over as 'destabilizing' of the entire East Asia.Fortunately these right wingers are not representative of Japanese people. There are more moderate minded Japanese Nationalists such as myself.

Japan had relinquished its control of Taiwan and Korea honorably, as a requirement of the Surrender Terms in 1945. Even if Taiwan and Korea are now independent, it should be understood of the historical links Japan will have with these two entities. And in my posts prior, I tried to explain why there is such strong opinion in favor of Japan --- within the Taiwanese national body. Which is rather interesting because there is a dichotomy between PRC and Taiwan's opinion of Japan. Where the former holds mostly negative views of Japan, the latter (Taiwan) has exceedingly positive views of Japan and Japanese Government.

 

[dlclong]

Yeah, China ceded TW to JP in 1895, so JP have the right to take back TW now . Ur country still hold the Treaty of Shimonoseki ,right ??

Vietnam belonged to China for one thousand years,
As a vassal of China, also has one thousand years,
The French colonial Vietnam for 90 years,
China, France, should be returned to Vietnam?
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