Tahir ul Qadri demolished by Chief Justice at the Supreme Court Day 1

[Awesome]

Again back to zero...?

It was Dr. TuQ who pointed out that dual nationals cannot contest elections, before no one in Pakistan knew it, apparently not even ifitkhar ch.

Wrong again, ECP had barred dual nationals since Dec 2011, Qadri ka jab naam-o-nishaan nahi tha. Go check your facts again.

Where in law is it written that dual national cannot file petition against open corruption in formation of ECP?

Qadri did not allege any corruption in the formation of ECP, he pointed out that there is an irregularity.

Basically, the constitution says that government and opposition must agree to an ECP. That was agreed. Only difference was, no paper work was done, everything was zabani kalaami.

Leader of the opposition is shouting "arey bhai, I'm the one who has to disagree". Paperwork was not done, correct. But you can see that everyone who are supposed to be involved are in agreement. Technically what would happen? They would just sign a document and be done with it in 2 days.

Point was this that Qadri is in league with Zardari. Zardari agreed to the ECP under pressure. Now he wants to somehow start the process all over again and this time Zardari would have brought out some random objections.

Iftikhar ch. suspected his alligience with Pakistan... but how about the other dual nationals sitting in parliament, judiciary and every govt. office?

Again check your facts, the Supreme court kicked out all dual nationals from parliament. Rehman Malik had to quit his dual nationality to remain in office.

You can't sentence any one for insincerity until proven.

You need to understand the meaning of "sentence". Declaring a petition unmaintainable is not sentencing. Every Petition from the beginning of Pakistan goes through 2 processes. 1) Decide on the maintainability of the petition and then 2) decide on the merit of the petition. Qadri's petition failed on point 1.

Will you take part in elections, while ECP is fraudulently formed by mutual agreement of political parties?

That is what your process says. Opposition and Government have to mutually agree. Its there in the constitution. Yes they need to put it through some paperwork, but in essence that's what it is.

We can conveniently, conclude that PPP has given out in favour of PTI, with condition that Balawal will be allowed to take roots but Punjab govt. will be given to PML-N.

No PML-N has gained the most, PPP lost the most from the rejection of this petition.

PTI allied itself with Qadri so they lost some too, but I think they will come out just scathed a bit.

IMO, judiciary is fraudulent when political parties divide judges quota! where judges work for them...

In any case Ifitkhar ch. is a crook and he proved it time and again.

Again, read the process:

Court system of Pakistan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Ifitikhar Choudhary has acted impartially and to the merit of the law.

please share...

Experts = Tulba Jamiat -ul- Islam.

Maulvi log sab jaga jaakeh bongian hi maarte hain...

 

[batmannow]

Wrong again, ECP had barred dual nationals since Dec 2011, Qadri ka jab naam-o-nishaan nahi tha. Go check your facts again.


Qadri did not allege any corruption in the formation of ECP, he pointed out that there is an irregularity.

Basically, the constitution says that government and opposition must agree to an ECP. That was agreed. Only difference was, no paper work was done, everything was zabani kalaami.

Leader of the opposition is shouting "arey bhai, I'm the one who has to disagree". Paperwork was not done, correct. But you can see that everyone who are supposed to be involved are in agreement. Technically what would happen? They would just sign a document and be done with it in 2 days.

Point was this that Qadri is in league with Zardari. Zardari agreed to the ECP under pressure. Now he wants to somehow start the process all over again and this time Zardari would have brought out some random objections.



Again check your facts, the Supreme court kicked out all dual nationals from parliament. Rehman Malik had to quit his dual nationality to remain in office.



You need to understand the meaning of "sentence". Declaring a petition unmaintainable is not sentencing. Every Petition from the beginning of Pakistan goes through 2 processes. 1) Decide on the maintainability of the petition and then 2) decide on the merit of the petition. Qadri's petition failed on point 1.



That is what your process says. Opposition and Government have to mutually agree. Its there in the constitution. Yes they need to put it through some paperwork, but in essence that's what it is.


No PML-N has gained the most, PPP lost the most from the rejection of this petition.

PTI allied itself with Qadri so they lost some too, but I think they will come out just scathed a bit.



Again, read the process:

Court system of Pakistan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Ifitikhar Choudhary has acted impartially and to the merit of the law.



Experts = Tulba Jamiat -ul- Islam.

Maulvi log sab jaga jaakeh bongian hi maarte hain...

acted impartialy , by taking sumo =moto in his own sons case?why?
but cant see ecp , wrong creation wow?

 

[batmannow]

 

[Argus Panoptes]

This is not just Pakistan but almost everywhere - that dual nationals are always going to be nationals with some doubt.

I look at it a different way, though. You can be a dual national, just as you can perhaps be a CEO of two companies, however when conflict of interest arises, or your two companies become rivals, you have to pick one.

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As a student I am confused by your statement.

A dual national is a national in each respective country individually, enjoying the same legal rights and responsibilities as any other citizen, except where clearly prohibited by law. For example, a dual national cannot be a member of parliament in Pakistan.

While the Chief Justice may be right in pointing out his doubts about Dr. Qadri's motives, he is wrong in placing limits on what a dual national can or cannot do without providing a reference to the law.

He did not do that when dismissing the petition, or did he?

 

[batmannow]

one of top legal experts watch him full

 

[batmannow]

tonight-with-moeed-dual-nationality-majburi-ya-seena-zori-12th-february-2013, listen what lord nazeer say what to who?

 

[BATMAN]

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S M Zafar terms CEC’s appointment unconstitutional

 

[batmannow]

 

[batmannow]

S M Zafar terms CEC’s appointment unconstitutional

S M Zafar terms CEC’s appointment unconstitutional


Tahir Khalil
Monday, January 28, 2013

Islamabad: An opposing note of renowned Constitutional expert and former law minister Senator S M Zafar has surfaced as he has expressed that the constitutional procedure was not followed while appointing the Chief Election Commissioner (CEC).

The Constitutional Committee headed by Law Minister Farooq H Naek was tasked to settle the matters between the government and Dr Tahirul Qadri. Other members of the Committee include S M Zafar, Senator Chaudhry Aitzaz Ahsan, Barrister Wasim Sajjad, former law minister Dr Khalid Ranjha, Senator Farough Naseem, Latif Afridi and Humayun Khan. The committee has compiled a report on Dr Qadri’s demand that Election Commission of Pakistan (ECP) should be dissolved.

The committee advised that the ECP couldn’t be dissolved because its formation was according to the procedures laid down in the Constitution. However, the dissenting note of Senator S M Zafar has become part of the Committee’s record.

The documents available with ‘The News’ revealed that Senator S M Zafar was of the view that the ECP had not been constituted according to the procedures laid down in the Constitution.

The senator also quoted Article 213-(2-A) of the Constitution that reads: “The prime minister in consultation with the Opposition Leader in the National Assembly shall forward three names for appointment of the CEC to a Parliamentary Committee for hearing and the Parliamentary Committee after interviewing the nominees would endorse one name.” S M Zafar in his note stated that the principle laid down in the Constitution was not followed because the Constitution envisaged appointing the CEC after consultation between the prime minister and the opposition leader and later the committee would interview the nominees but unfortunately this process was not followed.

Senator S M Zafar is of the view that the CEC is a talented and an able judge but his appointment is not in line with the Constitution. In this context, Supreme Court (SC) rules when appointment of a judge is not according to the Constitution, there is no need to refer the case to the Supreme Judicial Council.

Sources confided to this scribe that despite authoring the note, Senator S M Zafar did not sign it. When contacted to know the reason for this, the Senator said that he was scheduled to board a plane and was getting late, therefore, he did not sign the draft of the report. However, his note is now part of the record.

 

[batmannow]

Wrong again, ECP had barred dual nationals since Dec 2011, Qadri ka jab naam-o-nishaan nahi tha. Go check your facts again.


Qadri did not allege any corruption in the formation of ECP, he pointed out that there is an irregularity.

Basically, the constitution says that government and opposition must agree to an ECP. That was agreed. Only difference was, no paper work was done, everything was zabani kalaami.

Leader of the opposition is shouting "arey bhai, I'm the one who has to disagree". Paperwork was not done, correct. But you can see that everyone who are supposed to be involved are in agreement. Technically what would happen? They would just sign a document and be done with it in 2 days.

Point was this that Qadri is in league with Zardari. Zardari agreed to the ECP under pressure. Now he wants to somehow start the process all over again and this time Zardari would have brought out some random objections.



Again check your facts, the Supreme court kicked out all dual nationals from parliament. Rehman Malik had to quit his dual nationality to remain in office.



You need to understand the meaning of "sentence". Declaring a petition unmaintainable is not sentencing. Every Petition from the beginning of Pakistan goes through 2 processes. 1) Decide on the maintainability of the petition and then 2) decide on the merit of the petition. Qadri's petition failed on point 1.



That is what your process says. Opposition and Government have to mutually agree. Its there in the constitution. Yes they need to put it through some paperwork, but in essence that's what it is.


No PML-N has gained the most, PPP lost the most from the rejection of this petition.

PTI allied itself with Qadri so they lost some too, but I think they will come out just scathed a bit.



Again, read the process:

Court system of Pakistan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Ifitikhar Choudhary has acted impartially and to the merit of the law.



Experts = Tulba Jamiat -ul- Islam.

Maulvi log sab jaga jaakeh bongian hi maarte hain...

 

[Leader]

S M Zafar terms CEC’s appointment unconstitutional

S.M.Zafar himself wants to be CEC.


by the way if he think that it was unconstitutional tou bawa ji petition dair kerni thi na jab appointment hoi thi?

 

[batmannow]

Nawaz says Qadri's method and intentions are wrong

Nawaz says Qadris method and intentions are wrong - thenews.com.pk
February 12, 2013 - Updated 1616 PKT
From Web Edition


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LAHORE: Chief of the Pakistan Muslim League-N (PML-N), Nawaz Sharif says that Tahir ul Qadri is trying to hurt the election process with his unconstitutional demands, Geo News reported.

Speaking to the media in Lahore, Sharif added, that the government needs to decide on a caretaker setup, adding that he has instructed Chaudhry Nisar to sit with the government and decide on the matter.

Speaking on ties with neighbouring India, the former premier said that he wishes for peace with India, but it has to be a joint effort.

Regarding the ANP’s call for an all parties conference, Nawaz says his party will attend the conference and that Chaudhry Nisar, Raja Zafarul Haq and Shahbaz Sharif will represent the party, adding that the PML-N delegation will go in with only one agenda.




the verdict was on 12 feb not on 14th feb!

 

[batmannow]

S.M.Zafar himself wants to be CEC.


by the way if he think that it was unconstitutional tou bawa ji petition dair kerni thi na jab appointment hoi thi?

brave heart meeded to do that?
zafar shb stil in PTI?
as PTI already has seen what happen in asghar khan case, why no politician couldnt been aressted, & why not PTI press that issue?

 

[Leader]

@Awesome I think its a good precedence set that dual nationals are dealt differently in regard to their role... this restriction should be extended to any office in Pakistan...

Pakistan must be run by pure Pakistanis, maybe owned as home by dual nationals !!!

 

[batmannow]

@Awesome I think its a good precedence set that dual nationals are dealt differently in regard to their role... this restriction should be extended to any office in Pakistan...

Pakistan must be run by pure Pakistanis, maybe owned as home by dual nationals !!!

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& sure no politicians & govt officials including judges should allowed to do politics & govt duty, & even if they hve thier dual nationl wives, sons , daughters, brothers?