Tables turned, 1,800 academics relocated to China in 2020, China beat US and became the world’s most attractive destination for scientists

[MH.Yang]

yeah, if they were legal and actually had documents to file.

If not when they get older some end up like this since they get no retirement benefits. Unfortunately this is a very common sight.

Flushing has many Chinese like this. They don't know English and can't even drive.
You think all Chinese immigrants to the USA have degrees, because your social circle can only contact Chinese with degrees.
Decades ago, China still was an extremely poor country. Most of our predecessors lack knowledge and skills(English was not taught in China's early nine-year compulsory education), but they still have the traditional advantages of Chinese people, such as friendliness, politeness, observe discipline and law.
They came to USA in pursuit of a richer life, everyone has the right to pursue good lift, which is normal and worthy of respect.
Not only China, but also any country and nation has such a group of people pursuing their American dream in USA, their lives are not rich and stable. I think the American elite have the responsibility and obligation to take care of them.
These people have usually lived in USA for decades, and they are already Americans. Moreover, to be honest, the Chinese govt will not give nationality to all Chinese foreigners, and it is almost impossible for them to return to China.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

No, I mean American has a long long long long long long history of never developing.
It's like the neighbor who bought a brand new car after using a rickety bicycle for 300 years chastising his neighbors for having only 100 year old cars.

LOL! How can you chastise us when we are the ones who invented the car and the bicycle and were using them decades before you. You were happy with multi millennia old sandals and laughed at our new bicycle and new cars. Now you get some and complain about our 150 year old ones.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Flushing has many Chinese like this. They don't know English and can't even drive.
You think all Chinese immigrants to the USA have degrees, because your social circle can only contact Chinese with degrees.
Decades ago, China still was an extremely poor country. Most of our predecessors lack knowledge and skills(English was not taught in China's early nine-year compulsory education), but they still have the traditional advantages of Chinese people, such as friendliness, politeness, observe discipline and law.
They came to USA in pursuit of a richer life, everyone has the right to pursue good lift, which is normal and worthy of respect.
Not only China, but also any country and nation has such a group of people pursuing their American dream in USA, their lives are not rich and stable. I think the American elite have the responsibility and obligation to take care of them.
These people have usually lived in USA for decades, and they are already Americans. Moreover, to be honest, the Chinese govt will not give nationality to all Chinese foreigners, and it is almost impossible for them to return to China.

The US has also had multiple amnesty times where the people who wanted to come forward could. Even Biden is talking about an other one.

Biden bill would give amnesty to 6.5 million illegal immigrants, CBO says - Washington Examiner

More than 6 million illegal immigrants in the United States would be granted amnesty and allowed to obtain government benefits by House Democrats’ Build Back Better Act, according to a review by the Congressional Budget Office.The CBO concluded in November that approximately 6.5 million...

www.washingtonexaminer.com

However these people are not the ones getting greencards today. They were mostly overstayers from the pre-computer days where people could slip through the cracks. Even potentially getting a job with phoney paperwork without being noticed. Now with everything computerized you can only get an under the table job and stay in hiding.


But anyways what he doesn't want to talk about is this picture showing RECENT data.

Figure 1. Chinese Immigrant Population in the United States, 1980-2018

In the last 20 years the Chinese population has doubled in the US and it is not the people from the FUJian rural regions making up the majority of it. These aren't uneducated farmers. They are professionals who are not interested in living in some dense high rise in Chinatown where the FUJian people were hiding.

Urban US Chinatowns wane as Asians head to suburbs

America's historic Chinatowns, home for a century to immigrants seeking social support and refuge from racism, are fading as rising living costs, jobs elsewhere and a desire for wider spaces lure Asian-Americans more than ever to the suburbs.

www.seattletimes.com

 

[beijingwalker]

LOL! How can you chastise us when we are the ones who invented the car and the bicycle and were using them decades before you. You were happy with multi millennia old sandals and laughed at our new bicycle and new cars. Now you get some and complain about our 150 year old ones.

Chinese also invented a lot in the past and will keep it up in the future, you are just a country of a couple of hundred years old, no one knows if you can survive an other couples of hundreds. You don't have the social and blood bond to last long like normal countries do.

 

[prashantazazel]

Myth that so called " democracy and freedom" attracts talents is debunked, people go for wealth, better opportunities and safe, friendly living environment.

Wealth doesn't attract permanently.
But China's safety is renowned. And the standard of living is quite good in the major cities.

 

[beijingwalker]

China's current harsh lockdown policy may reverse this trend, we should learn to live with the virus.

 

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[mili]

China's current harsh lockdown policy may reverse this trend, we should learn to live with the virus.

The opposite is true. Zero covid makes China even more attractive.
Smart people, like scientists etc, value their lives, their family & health.
These people & the kind of jobs they do will be among the least affected by any occasional lockdown.