Syria's Mercenaries: The Afghans Fighting Assad's War

[Saif al-Arab]

@Dr.Thrax

Any foreigner who goes to any Arab country in order to kill us should be dealt with very harshly. Those Hazara's must be rooted out of Syria with no mercy whatsoever. There is no time for that.

Nor do they have any place in the Arab world. It would be a very big mistake to trust murderers or even worse let them settle in Syria.

They would more or less all be sentenced to death under Sharia anyway for their crimes.
I am all for doing that. On the battlefield you have no time for that though because it's either them or you unless they surrender which is another discussion altogether.

Too many of those trash Hazaras in Syria to begin with arriving from the Mullahstan hellhole.

They're brainwashed. The thing I noticed with most of the captured militants is that they were surprised at the way the FSA were treating them, as opposed to what their leadership lead them to believe.

FSA been fighting ISIS since its inception, just like the Assad/Iran

ISIS and the ASSad regime had been caught numerous times engaging in trade among other evidence that they share the common goal of destroying the rebellion.

They would be sentenced to death for their crimes under Sharia law. They are the worst of all creatures. Mercenaries who kill innocents for a few dollars and who use Islam as a tool for their crimes.

 

[Dr.Thrax]

@Dr.Thrax

Any foreigner who goes to any Arab country in order to kill us should be dealt with very harshly. Those Hazara's must be rooted out of Syria with no mercy whatsoever. There is no time for that.

Nor do they have any place in the Arab world. It would be a very big mistake to trust murderers or even worse let them settle in Syria.

They would more or less all be sentenced to death under Sharia anyway for their crimes.
I am all for doing that. On the battlefield you have no time for that though because it's either them or you unless they surrender which is another discussion altogether.

Too many of those trash Hazaras in Syria to begin with arriving from the Mullahstan hellhole.



They would be sentenced to death for their crimes under Sharia law. They are the worst of all creatures. Mercenaries who kill innocents for a few dollars and who use Islam as a tool for their crimes.

Yes they will be sentenced for their crimes. But to abuse them in jail? Absolutely haram.

 

[Saif al-Arab]

Yes they will be sentenced for their crimes. But to abuse them in jail? Absolutely haram.

No, I never wrote anything about abuse or torture. That's unacceptable. What I talked about is dealing with them as soldiers deal with enemies during war. Prisoners of war should not be abused.

What I meant is that people, in this case mass-murdering Hazara mercenaries, who are caught red-handed murdering Syrians, should not escape scotch-free. They should be help responsible under Sharia law or in a civil court. Since Syria is at war it would be a military court. In any case the end conclusion for most would be a death sentence.

Of course those who are yet to commit any crimes and who surrender must be dealt with differently. But how to prove what?

If I was an Syrian fighting to topple my mass-murdering dictator and his foreign mass-murdering mercenaries I would honestly be very suspicious of any Hazara or foreigner that I caught. I would assume that they had blood on their hands unless proven otherwise.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Reminds me of Pakistanis who died fighting for Iran in the Iran Iraq war, poor chaps weren't even allowed a burial place in Iran.

Never heard of Pakistanis in Iran Iraq war.

Also doubt any pakistani went to fight in Syria .. Except for taliban scum.

No, I never wrote anything about abuse or torture. That's unacceptable. What I talked about is dealing with them as soldiers deal with enemies during war. Prisoners of war should not be abused.

What I meant is that people, in this case mass-murdering Hazara mercenaries, who are caught red-handed murdering Syrians, should not escape scotch-free. They should be help responsible under Sharia law or in a civil court. Since Syria is at war it would be a military court. In any case the end conclusion for most would be a death sentence.

Of course those who are yet to commit any crimes and who surrender must be dealt with differently. But how to prove what?

If I was an Syrian fighting to topple my mass-murdering dictator and his foreign mass-murdering mercenaries I would honestly be very suspicious of any Hazara or foreigner that I caught. I would assume that they had blood on their hands unless proven otherwise.

Look around ... The blood is on your own hands. Be it daesh,FSA,Asshead or Maliki govt... Others are just fuelling the fire..

 

[Azad-Kashmiri]

They should be help responsible under Sharia law or in a civil court. Since Syria is at war it would be a military court. In any case the end conclusion for most would be a death sentence.

They should only be tried under Sharia Law, so that Allah's help can come to the oppressed people of Sham. Military, Civil courts are unjust and do not give justice.

 

[Saif al-Arab]

Never heard of Pakistanis in Iran Iraq war.

Also doubt any pakistani went to fight in Syria .. Except for taliban scum.


Look around ... The blood is on your own hands. Be it daesh,FSA,Asshead or Maliki govt... Others are just fuelling the fire..

Pakistanis on both sides have been caught or killed. I think there are less than 400 though, so overall a very small number compared to Pakistan's population but that is only natural as Pakistan is located so far away.

Explain what you mean here? We are talking about Hazara mercenaries fighting for Al-Assad in this thread. So we are using them as examples. Other examples could be ISIS members from Tunisia, KSA, Iraq, Chechnya or Shia militias from Iran, Iraq, Lebanon or elsewhere.

The point is that locals will deal harshly with foreigners who come to their country to kill their people. Especially mercenaries like those Hazaras. Their fight has nothing to do with any ideology or religion. Their motivation is money. They are used hired by the Iranian regime, brainwashed for a few days and sent to Syria to prolong the Al-Assad regime.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Pakistanis on both sides have been caught or killed. I think there are less than 400 though, so overall a very small number compared to Pakistan's population but that is only natural as Pakistan is located so far away.

Explain what you mean here? We are talking about Hazara mercenaries fighting for Al-Assad in this thread. So we are using them as examples. Other examples could be ISIS members from Tunisia, KSA, Iraq, Chechnya or Shia militias from Iran, Iraq, Lebanon or elsewhere.

The point is that locals will deal harshly with foreigners who come to their country to kill their people. Especially mercenaries like those Hazaras. Their fight has nothing to do with any ideology or religion. Their motivation is money. They are used hired by the Iranian regime, brainwashed for a few days and sent to Syria to prolong the Al-Assad regime.

The only Pakistabis I've heard about are those british idiots joining FSA or TTP counts joining daesh.. Never really seen any pics of any Pakistani fighting for Assad.

 

[Saif al-Arab]

They should only be tried under Sharia Law, so that Allah's help can come to the oppressed people of Sham. Military, Civil courts are unjust and do not give justice.

Yes, but some Syrian fractions might chose to sentence them under military courts. It's all up to the locals though. It's their choice.

The point is just that those Hazara mercenaries are making a very bad name for themselves in Syria and that the mass-murdering ones among them have zero sympathy from me.

Imagine if Nepalis or Sri Lankan people ventured into Pakistan during the height of a civil war and started killing locals?

The only Pakistabis I've heard about are those british idiots joining FSA or TTP counts joining daesh.. Never really seen any pics of any Pakistani fighting for Assad.

I don't know if those statistics that I have read are to be trusted but according to those 400 or so Pakistanis are fighting in Syria. There are quite a few articles about this if you search "Pakistanis fighting in Syria" on Google. I have also personally seen videos of Pakistanis on both sides but as I wrote they are overall a small minority for obvious reasons.

 

[Kabira]

Reminds me of Pakistanis who died fighting for Iran in the Iran Iraq war, poor chaps weren't even allowed a burial place in Iran.

I think the difference here is these Afghans are forced while we all know Pakistanis most have gone for love of ummah. I was watching former ISI chief Asad Durrani interview on Al Jazzera and how Pakistanis think themselves as thekhedars of ummah. This is 100% true from my experience.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

I think the difference here is these Afghans are forced while we all know Pakistanis most have gone for love of ummah. I was watching former ISI chief Asad Durrani interview on Al Jazzera and how Pakistanis think themselves as thekhedars of ummah. This is 100% true from my experience.

That's coz we are idiots.. To emotional ... To fukin stupid.


Nobody would gladly jump in others war.. We .. Look at our history.. Fought for the Indonesians.

For the ottomans.

For the arabs.

For the Iranians ?



Has anybody fought and died for us,????? Fk no!

 

[Saif al-Arab]

I think the difference here is these Afghans are forced while we all know Pakistanis most have gone for love of ummah. I was watching former ISI chief Asad Durrani interview on Al Jazzera and how Pakistanis think themselves as thekhedars of ummah. This is 100% true from my experience.

I have never heard about Pakistanis fighting during the Iraq-Iran war. They must be a few people at most who lived in Iraq or Iran before the Iraq-Iran war.

Also at the beginning of the Syrian conflict quite a few foreigners arrived but after the emergence of ISIS most that have joined have been your typical "keyboard Jihadists" who think that they are doing Islam a service or the opposite side of the same coin, Al-Assad supporters who are motivated by religion too. Then you have a minority of outdated Ba'athists from across the Arab world mainly who have joined hands with Al-Assad.

It's hard to tell what motivates people.

This guys (A Turkish Dutch) motivation was apparently the injustice he saw. He later became more radicalized (as often happens during a war) and joined more militant groups that are more religious based.

I honestly don't know if that number (400) is correct and what kind of Pakistanis have went to Syria. You must know this better than me as a Pakistani and as a person with access to the Pakistani media. I am sure that a quick search in Urdu could answer some of the questions.

 

[Hyperion]

I totally agree........ hence the need to exterminate the Arab population in hinterlands of Pakistan and all wannabe Arabs (Ummah chest thumpers) who wish to kill the locals (settled people of varying sects - real inhabitants of this land called Pakistan for generations)...

See, we believe in the same thing, no imported sect or religion is good for the health of local population. You may kill the 400 or so captured Pakistani's, whereas, our job of killing approximately 4 million or so brainwashed people will be a tad tough. No problem, it can be done, slowly and gradually.

Eventually we would need to focus on nations who brainwashed our people in the first place!

@Irfan Baloch : Your views........ 400 for the price of 4 million.... not a bad deal, yay or nay?

The point is that locals will deal harshly with foreigners who come to their country to kill their people.

 

[Saif al-Arab]

That's coz we are idiots.. To emotional ... To fukin stupid.


Nobody would gladly jump in others war.. We .. Look at our history.. Fought for the Indonesians.

For the ottomans.

For the arabs.

For the Iranians ?



Has anybody fought and died for us,????? Fk no!

Arabs during the Afghan-Soviet war fought alongside mostly Afghan and Pakistani Pashtuns.
I think 25.000 or so Arabs went to Afghanistan in total during the span of that decade. Some sources say much less.

Also out of interest how many Pakistani's were involved in wars that involved Arabs? What's your estimate? 1000 in total out of a population of almost 200 million today?

I don't consider mutual training exercises as "wars" as those are not for free and mutually beneficial.

I totally agree........ hence the need to exterminate the Arab population in hinterlands of Pakistan and all wannabe Arabs (Ummah chest thumpers) who wish to kill the locals (settled people of varying sects - real inhabitants of this land called Pakistan for generations)...

See, we believe in the same thing, no imported sect or religion is good for the health of local population. You may kill the 400 or so captured Pakistani's, whereas, our job of killing approximately 4 million or so brainwashed people will be a tad tough. No problem, it can be done, slowly and gradually.

Eventually we would need to focus on nations who brainwashed our people in the first place!

@Irfan Baloch : Your views........ 400 for the price of 4 million.... not a bad deal, yay or nay?

Huh? Which Arabs in Pakistan? I think that they can be counted on a few hands at most. The vast, vast majority are locals and from what I recall reading the other groups are Afghans and Uzbeks. That's about it with the odd Chechen in between and some other nationalities.

The only wannabe Arabs that I know are the Iranian regime and their supporters.

Also I don't think that foreigners who fight against Al-Assad should be combated as long as they don't join ISIS or Al-Nusra as they are doing a brave and good deed. You might not understand it as you don't follow the Syrian conflict as closely as we do and because of political differences.

I don't consider the Arabs who went to Afghanistan and fought against the Soviets to be terrorists either. What a tiny percentage of them later evolved into is a totally different discussion.

 

[Azad-Kashmiri]

Yes, but some Syrian fractions might chose to sentence them under military courts. It's all up to the locals though. It's their choice.

The point is just that those Hazara mercenaries are making a very bad name for themselves in Syria and that the mass-murdering ones among them have zero sympathy from me.

Imagine if Nepalis or Sri Lankan people ventured into Pakistan during the height of a civil war and started killing locals?

As you know fighting for revenge, hate is not from Islam. There is no Nusra. Remember the hadith of Ali (radi'Allah) when he was about to kill the mushrik in battle, the mushrik spat in his face and Ali (radi'Allah) did not kill him! Why? His intentions changed, before it was for Allah and then it became PERSONAL!

We have Pakistani Taliban, taking revenge on Pakistani Muslims because they lossed their loved from drones. They are khawarij and Syrians should not follow them.

 

[Azad-Kashmiri]

Arabs during the Afghan-Soviet war fought alongside mostly Afghan and Pakistani Pashtuns.
I think 25.000 or so Arabs went to Afghanistan in total during the span of that decade. Some sources say much less.

Also out of interest how many Pakistani's were involved in wars that involved Arabs? What's your estimate? 1000 in total out of a population of almost 200 million today?

I don't consider mutual training exercises as "wars" as those are not for free and mutually beneficial.



Huh? Which Arabs in Pakistan? I think that they can be counted on a few hands at most. The vast, vast majority are locals and from what I recall reading the other groups are Afghans and Uzbeks. That's about it with the odd Chechen in between and some other nationalities.

The only wannabe Arabs that I know are the Iranian regime and their supporters.

Also I don't think that foreigners who fight against Al-Assad should be combated as long as they don't join ISIS or Al-Nusra as they are doing a brave and good deed. You might not understand it as you don't follow the Syrian conflict as closely as we do and because of political differences.

I don't consider the Arabs who went to Afghanistan and fought against the Soviets to be terrorists either. What a tiny percentage of them later evolved into is a totally different discussion.

Why are you arguing with secularist for?