Syrian opposition kidnapped, tortured, executed loyalist

[BLACKEAGLE]

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read his posts and comments, enjoy
https://www.facebook.com/majd.alnablsy?sk=wall



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This is the real person who posted the fake post:
https://www.facebook.com/people/%D9%85%D8%AC%D8%AF-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AD%D8%B3%D9%86/100002169638299?sk=wall
Its very obvious that he is an agent of Syrian intelligence.

 

[kalu_miah]

Mate as a non Syrian is it wise for us to take sides. Is it not better to encourage dailogue encourage a peaceful resolution to this conflict? Rather than pour oil on the fire and take sides etc

I admit mate, that is a very good, sensible and reasonable question to ask. Why take sides? Here is why:

- I have been watching, from a distance of course, the actions of Assad regime, it was one lie and deception after another and professionaly done too, not like the idiot and sloppy Qadhafi
- 12% Alawi and 10% Christians and some Sunni rich elite are currently enjoying power and privilege, they want to maintain this status quo
- Alawi and Christians are also afraid of sectarian revenge after the fall of Assad, in fact Assad has been pushing this line as the biggest justification for the continuation of his rule

But here is the other side:
- a democratic rule may bring some assortment of Islamists in power, but I have confidence that Alawi's and Christians will be safe under this majority rule

Unfortunately, the deeper this Alawi and Christian dominated regime get stuck in the mud with continued atrocities against opposition/protesters, the higher the passions will be against these minorities and the more difficult it will be to contain vengeance after the fall of Assad.

This is why I take sides, to speak out as a more or less neutral observer from far to say what the Assad regime is doing is bringing disaster for their Alawi and Christian communities in the future. The Iranians, I believe are being short sighted and irresponsible and the real oil in the fire is being put on by China and its surrogate Russia (the elite but not the people), to give this regime false hope of survival so they continue on their rampage, as if they can kill their way out of it. Its just not going to happen.

You have asked me bro, and I have expressed my honest opinion on this issue. Yes, as a Bangladeshi Muslim, I am supposed to be Hanafi Sunni, but to me I would rather see all Muslims unite, regardless of our so called sects and deny opportunities to our enemies to shake hands and use one of us against the other as their pawns and canon fodders, to fight their geopolitical wars.

 

[lem34]

^^^

KM mate I posted this on another thread but I think it is just as relevant here:

I think we we must observe strict neutrality in the matter of Syria and for that matter and not take sides.

I have heard the argument about human rights and killings going on in Syria but quite frankly it is very difficult in the fog of civil war or any war to actually get to the truth of the matter.

Let me tell you why I would be more than reluctant to agree with you

If it is a true revolution and even a significant minority wish to come out on the streets a country is ungovernable. Lets take the example of Pakistan. Our population is reputed to be 180 million people. If just 20% of the people decide that they want to come out on the streets that would be be 36 million. We have one of the largest standing armies in the world, we have our blessed ISI we have nukes. Even with these forces and nukes what could our army do??? Use nukes on our own people?? That would be the end. You will note it does not even require a majority to come on the streets. In practical terms the overwhelming number of people want to have security, a roof on their head and food on the table and could not give a monkey's who runs the country.

Now lets take the example of Libya-The rebels or whatever you want to call them could barely get out of Benghazi even though they were being funded and armed by third parties from outside the country. I am off the firm opinion in hindsight that Gaddaffi was less than wise because I think it is likely he would have done relatively well in any election and he should have attempted to legitamise his rule.

Had it not been for Nato's role in my opinion it is doubtful that the rebels could have succeeded.

Now lets look at UK and US in recent months we have had riots and civil disobedience. These disturbances have been dismissed as the actions of criminals and undesirables. If a foreign power was to lets say start supplying weapons and moral support these so called criminals and undesirables what could or would happen??

One mans rebel is another man's criminal and undesirable.

Who decides what the majority in a country wants in Syria?? Who decides that Assad is a dictator and must be removed whilst at the same time ignoring what is happening in Bahrain?? Who decides when to support dissident voices in a country. I measn every country has voices that don't agree with their government.

I could go on but you might get bored but you get the picture I hope.

The best we can do is pray for and hope is that the Syrian people themselves decide with as little bloodshed as possible a conclusion to the unrest.

 

[NeutralCitizen]

So you were banned as SyrianChristianPatriot so you came back in your othermaccount?

Long time no see.

Nope I'm not him, I was banned for at least 3-4 weeks for defending hindus my ban ended yesterday at 8 pm EST. so I came back, if you remember back a while I talked to him while you were there.

 

[Mosamania]

Nope I'm not him, I was banned for at least 3-4 weeks for defending hindus my ban ended yesterday at 8 pm EST. so I came back, if you remember back a while I talked to him while you were there.

 

[kalu_miah]

^^^

KM mate I posted this on another thread but I think it is just as relevant here:

I think we we must observe strict neutrality in the matter of Syria and for that matter and not take sides.

I have heard the argument about human rights and killings going on in Syria but quite frankly it is very difficult in the fog of civil war or any war to actually get to the truth of the matter.

Let me tell you why I would be more than reluctant to agree with you

If it is a true revolution and even a significant minority wish to come out on the streets a country is ungovernable. Lets take the example of Pakistan. Our population is reputed to be 180 million people. If just 20% of the people decide that they want to come out on the streets that would be be 36 million. We have one of the largest standing armies in the world, we have our blessed ISI we have nukes. Even with these forces and nukes what could our army do??? Use nukes on our own people?? That would be the end. You will note it does not even require a majority to come on the streets. In practical terms the overwhelming number of people want to have security, a roof on their head and food on the table and could not give a monkey's who runs the country.

I hope it happens for Pakistan, people need to take and own the streets. It does not take a majority, but it takes a large enough organized group who has the support of the majority. If food, shelther, clothing and a better future has to be assured for the masses, the civil society will need to organize and make moves.

Syrians are doing exactly that, if I am not wrong, and all Assad needed to do was go for genuine reform and a quick election. But with China and its pawns Russia and Iran's support, Assad thinks he can kill 100,000 and still get away with crimes against humanity.

Now lets take the example of Libya-The rebels or whatever you want to call them could barely get out of Benghazi even though they were being funded and armed by third parties from outside the country. I am off the firm opinion in hindsight that Gaddaffi was less than wise because I think it is likely he would have done relatively well in any election and he should have attempted to legitamise his rule.

Had it not been for Nato's role in my opinion it is doubtful that the rebels could have succeeded.

I agree Qadhafi should have chosen the safe and saner course and not go crazy, which brought him and his supporters down and a lot people lost life in a meaningless conflict, because of his stupidity. The situation with Assad is quite similar, although details are a little different, Qadhafi had black Sub-saharan African mercenaries fighting for him, most of whom were foreigners, whereas with Assad, we have 22% of the population with him, which gives him more staying power and cannon fodder.

Now lets look at UK and US in recent months we have had riots and civil disobedience. These disturbances have been dismissed as the actions of criminals and undesirables. If a foreign power was to lets say start supplying weapons and moral support these so called criminals and undesirables what could or would happen??

One mans rebel is another man's criminal and undesirable.

The UK and US has democracy in place for centuries, these democracies has their problems, they need to evolve, occupy movement is working on that, to bring power to the 99% from the 1% elite. But the situation in Syria is not comparable. They have a dictatorship based on colonial favoritism of the French who used the loyal minority Alawi's and Christians to manage Syria.

Who decides what the majority in a country wants in Syria?? Who decides that Assad is a dictator and must be removed whilst at the same time ignoring what is happening in Bahrain?? Who decides when to support dissident voices in a country. I measn every country has voices that don't agree with their government.

I could go on but you might get bored but you get the picture I hope.

The best we can do is pray for and hope is that the Syrian people themselves decide with as little bloodshed as possible a conclusion to the unrest.

Of course Syrian people should decide their fate in a fair and impartial election to decide on their future, what kind of government they should have and who should be in it, not the Assad regime and his 22% supporters, many of whom are starting to have their doubts and see the light.

 

[Desert Fox]

No I simply want the murderers of these:


To pay the price. To you their lives might be worthless after all they are just "Sunnis" but to us each drop of their blood is worth a thousand mountain of Gold. We will not abandon our brothers and sisters ever. No matter how hard you try to think otherwise.

I don't want to sound rude or anything, but if that's how much importance they hold in your (Saudis) hearts then why haven't you openly confronted the Syrian army rather than support rag tag militias that are being wiped out by the Syrian army?

 

[BLACKEAGLE]

I don't want to sound rude or anything, but if that's how much importance they hold in your (Saudis) hearts then why haven't you openly confronted the Syrian army rather than support rag tag militias that are being wiped out by the Syrian army?

FSA is being wipped out?
The only side who is being wiped out is the innocent civilians by the "Butcher".

 

[lem34]

Guys please please whichever side you are on stop posting those pictures. They prove nothing. Other than inhumane killing. Please I urge you to show restraint pray for our Syrian brothers whatever religion sect they maybe and pray and encourage a peaceful dialogue with no killing and hurting. It is for our Syrian brothers to resolve. We must encourage them to do it peacefully

 

[Desert Fox]

FSA is being wipped out?
The only side who is being wiped out is the innocent civilians by the "Butcher".

Whatever the case, it is unfortunate that the civilians are caught in between. My point was, if the Syrians do hold such a special place in your (Saudis and Jordanians) hearts that each drop of their blood is worth a thousand mountains of gold, then why haven't your governments and armed forces intervened, instead of providing arms to militias to fight the Syrian army, why not just use your superior air force and ground forces to take out Assad's armies in a shorter period of time rather than support militias with only small arms and drag on the conflict for months causing the deaths of thousands of more civilians?

 

[Mattrixx]

Syrian government should be responsible to stop conflict in their country.

 

[NeutralCitizen]

I must say that the FSA right now is getting crushed and providing them weapons will just prolong their suffering because the Syrian Military will win, I'm neutral on this.

 

[BLACKEAGLE]

Destroying a couple of Tanks and bases is not going to help them win, they need air support which is unlikely and no buffer space, the FSA is just in a long battle that is prolonging suffering.

I told you my friend, you can just ask for more videos and I will post as many videos as you can get.

 

[NeutralCitizen]

I told you my friend, you can just ask for more videos and I will post as many videos as you can get.

A few videos will not change the situation without air support and a buffer zone this is a just a long fight

 

[BLACKEAGLE]

A few videos will not change the situation without air support and a buffer zone this is a just a long fight

Don't you get it man! around 400 tanks were destroyed and there 150 videos of them. There are many other tanks that weren't filmed. FSA are being armed by several countries. Butcher army can't escalate by killing more people because that would just give many countries the right to get the regime...