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@Sinan

I've been seeing numerous reports on recent interaction between Turkish guards and ISIS fighters near the border in Kobani, what's your take on this? It's being said they were chit chatting for a while and the the ISIS terrorists depart while raising their hands to Turkish guards. What do you think really happened?

Video shows ISIS fighters talking with Turkish border guards | Daily Mail Online

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It is not ISIS but FSA.

ISIS fighters wear black clothes

People need to think critically and stop believing everything they read
 
ISIS fighters wear black clothes

Wow. So anyone who doesn't wear black clothes isn't ISIS? You should find a job in some intelligence agency, they'll definitely need you.
Who told you that ISIS terrorists only wear back clothes? This is beyond childish and naive.
 
Wow. So anyone who doesn't wear black clothes isn't ISIS? You should find a job in some intelligence agency, they'll definitely need you.
Who told you that ISIS terrorists only wear back clothes? This is beyond childish and naive.

a rat is a rat to me. i say kill'em all.
daesh are just bigger meaner rats is all
 
@Sinan

I've been seeing numerous reports on recent interaction between Turkish guards and ISIS fighters near the border in Kobani, what's your take on this? It's being said they were chit chatting for a while and the the ISIS terrorists depart while raising their hands to Turkish guards. What do you think really happened?

Video shows ISIS fighters talking with Turkish border guards | Daily Mail Online

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Let's say it's isis, as long as they are outside the border, be it 1m or 100km, and dont harm us, i dont see why we should get fired up. Terrorist pyd/pkk is also close to our border, recently peshmerga were allowed to enter ayn al arab. so what's your point about these pics and video?
 
ahhh no. pretty sure ISIS is fighting the SAA as well anyone who doesn't pledge alliance to them.


Nusra and Hazm and Islamic Front are allies of America and they all share the same Salafist ideology as ISIS. I think Obama mad ISIS was avoiding Assad for a long time.

It is not ISIS but FSA.

ISIS fighters wear black clothes

People need to think critically and stop believing everything they read


ISIS wear black clothes? Orlly?

 
Harakat Hazm destroys a 14.5 mm AA gun with TOW. Handarat, Aleppo countryside.

 
ISIL militants seize new Syrian oil field

October 30, 2014

Aleppo, Syria – On Wednesday, Islamic State’s (IS/ISIL) militants seized control of the Shaer oil field in Homs province in central Syria, following days of clashes with Syrian regime’s military forces, local sources reported.

Speaking to ARA News from Homs, aid worker Omar Sulaiman said that IS militants fighters were able to seize the area where the Shaer oil field is located in the countryside of Homs after fierce clashes with pro-Assad regime, which lasted for five days.

“At least 30 pro-Assad soldiers were killed and dozens of other were taken hostage by IS militants, before the radical group announced its full control of the oil field and the surrounding area,” Sulaiman said.

Activists reported that the IS extremists were also able to seize large quantites of weapons and ammunition in Shaer, after taking control of the Syrian regime’s military base in the area.

Meanwhile, the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights reported that militants of the Islamic State summarily executed dozens of regime forces in Shaer area in Homs province on Wednesday.

Noteworthy, the IS militants have seized an estimated 81 oil wells in Iraq and Syria over the last few months.

ISIL militants seize new Syrian oil field - ARA News


Iraqi Kurdish forces enter Syria to fight ISIS | News , Middle East | THE DAILY STAR

SURUC, Turkey: A first group of Iraqi Kurdish peshmerga fighters entered the besieged Syrian town of Kobani Thursday to help push back ISIS militants who have defied U.S. airstrikes and threatened to massacre its Kurdish defenders.

Kobani, on the border with Turkey, has been encircled by the Sunni Muslim insurgents for more than 40 days. Weeks of U.S.-led airstrikes have failed to break their stranglehold, and Kurds are hoping the arrival of the peshmerga will turn the tide.

The siege of Kobani - known in Arabic as Ain al-Arab - has become a test of the U.S.-led coalition's ability to stop ISIS's advance, and Washington has welcomed the peshmerga's deployment. It has intensified its airstrikes in the past two days ahead of their arrival.

A first contingent of about 10 peshmerga fighters arrived in Kobani from Turkey, the Britain-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said. Kurdish and Turkish officials said more were expected within hours.

"That initial group, I was told, is here to carry out the planning for our strategy going forward," said Meryem Kobani, a commander with the YPG, the main Syrian Kurdish armed group defending the town.

Hemin Hawrami, a senior official in the Kurdistan Democratic Party in Iraq, wrote on Twitter that the peshmerga already in Kobani were assessing where the heavy weapons would be deployed.

Around 100 peshmerga fighters arrived by plane in southeastern Turkey on Wednesday, joined later that night by a land convoy of vehicles carrying heavy weapons including a cannon and truck-mounted machine guns.

Iraqi Kurdish forces enter Syria to fight ISIS | News , Middle East | THE DAILY STAR
 
Nusra and Hazm and Islamic Front are allies of America and they all share the same Salafist ideology as ISIS. I think Obama mad ISIS was avoiding Assad for a long time.




ISIS wear black clothes? Orlly?


allies of the U.S? not all of us consider moderate rats to be our allies. I can't wait til the day Obama and his cronies and McCain are tried for treason.
 
Wow. So anyone who doesn't wear black clothes isn't ISIS? You should find a job in some intelligence agency, they'll definitely need you.
Who told you that ISIS terrorists only wear back clothes? This is beyond childish and naive.
you only want to believe what you want to believe. YOU need to prove they are ISIS fighters with evidence. Everybody can make accusations. And a photo only is not enough.

Turkey is training FSA and we don't deny that. They are probably FSA as I said. A lot of our enemies are making baseless accusations, if they were more conservative and spoke from evidence they would be taken serious.

I don't know where you got your sources from? PressTV?
 
SVBIED attack on the entrance of Tiyas airbase, Homs.

محافظة حمص – المرصد السوري لحقوق الإنسان:: فجر مقاتل من تنظيم “الدولة الإسلامية” نفسه بعربة مفخخة بالقرب من بوابة مطار التيفور العسكري، دون معلومات عن حجم الخسائر البشرية في صفوف قوات النظام، بينما تجددت الاشتباكات بين مقاتلي تنظيم “الدولة الإسلامية” من جهة، وقوات النظام والمسلحين الموالين لها من جهة أخرى في منطقة حقل شاعر للغاز بريف حمص الشرقي، في حين قصفت قوات النظام مناطق في حي الوعر بمدينة حمص ومعلومات أولية عن سقوط عدد من الجرحى، كما قصفت قوات النظام مناطق في بلدة الغنظو بريف حمص، دون معلومات عن خسائر بشرية حتى اللحظة.

تنظيم “الدولة الإسلامية” يفجر عربة مفخخة عند مطار التيفور العسكري بريف حمص | المرصد السورى لحقوق الإنسان


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IS militants ambushed SAA troops on Tadmur/Palmyra->Tiyas road. 8 SAA killed, road has fallen under the control of IS.
 
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@Sinan

I've been seeing numerous reports on recent interaction between Turkish guards and ISIS fighters near the border in Kobani, what's your take on this? It's being said they were chit chatting for a while and the the ISIS terrorists depart while raising their hands to Turkish guards. What do you think really happened?

Video shows ISIS fighters talking with Turkish border guards | Daily Mail Online

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Well.. we don't know if they are ISIS or not.

Now, looking from Syrian side, there is the railroad, mine field and barbed wire. Railroad is official border between Turkey and Syria. Minefield is in Turkish side.

According to press realease of Turkish General Staff; Genelkurmay Başkanlığı Resmi Kurumsal İnternet Sitesidir - Anasayfa - Turkish
General Staff Official Web Site - Main Page


These guys get spotted by stationary guards while crossing the railroad. Stationary guards called patrol team. Patrol team come and said to those guys "You are currently in Turkish land, turn back or we will open fire." Guys returned back.

We don't know if these guys are ISIS or FSA or Kurds... but Western media producing BS as always. Indeed this Syrian Civil war showed me how incredibly biassed both US and European media is.
 
For Turkey and U.S., at odds over Syria, a 60-year alliance shows signs of crumbling

ANKARA, Turkey — The increasingly hostile divergence of views between Turkey and the United States over Syria is testing the durability of their 60-year alliance, to the point where some are starting to question whether the two countries still can be considered allies at all.

Turkey’s refusal to allow the United States to use its bases to launch attacks against the Islamic State, quarrels over how to manage the battle raging in the Syrian border town of Kobane and the harsh tone of the anti-American rhetoric used by top Turkish officials to denounce U.S. policy have served to illuminate the vast gulf that divides the two nations as they scramble to address the menace posed by the extremists.

Whether the Islamic State even is the chief threat confronting the region is disputed, with Washington and Ankara publicly airing their differences through a fog of sniping, insults and recrimination over who is to blame for the mess the Middle East has become.

At stake is a six-decade-old relationship forged during the Cold War and now endowed with a different but equally vital strategic dimension. Turkey is positioned on the front line of the war against the Islamic State, controlling a 780-mile border with Iraq and Syria. Without Turkey’s cooperation, no U.S. policy to bring stability to the region can succeed, analysts and officials on both sides say.

“If Turkey is not an ally, then we and Turkey are in trouble,” said Francis Ricciardone, who served as the U.S. ambassador to Turkey until the summer. “It is probably the most important ally.”

The Syrian town along the Turkish border remains center stage in the fight against Islamic State militants. (Reuters)

The airdrop by U.S. warplanes last week of weapons to a Kurdish group Turkey regards as a terrorist organization crystallized the apparent parting of ways. Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has not disguised his anger at the way President Obama ordered the airdrop. The U.S. president informed him of the decision in a telephone call barely an hour after Erdogan had declared to journalists that Turkey would never allow such assistance to take place.

On a tour of the Baltic states last week, Erdogan blasted Obama at every stop. “Mr. Obama ordering three C-130s to airdrop weapons and supplies to Kobane right after our conversation cannot be approved of,” he said during a news conference in Latvia. “The U.S. did that despite Turkey,” he fumed on another leg of the journey.

U.S. officials have sought to reassure Turkey that the airdrop was a one-time action, and the two countries have agreed on a plan to reinforce the beleaguered Syrian Kurds with Iraqi peshmerga fighters, which Turkey does not object to, because it has friendly relations with Iraqi Kurds.

But the Kobane dispute masked more fundamental differences over a range of issues, some of which have been brewing for years and others that have been brought to light by the urgency of the U.S.-led air campaign, analysts say.

“The Syria crisis is exposing long-unspoken, unpleasant truths about the relationship that were put to one side,” said Bulent Aliriza, a Turkish analyst with the Washington-based Center for Strategic and International Studies. “We have this kabuki dance where Washington and Ankara say they agree, but they don’t.”

The tensions are not unprecedented, nor are the doubts about an alliance born in a different era, when fears of Soviet expansionism brought Muslim Turkey under NATO’S umbrella and extended the Western bloc’s reach into Asia.

The United State imposed an arms embargo on Turkey after Turkish troops invaded Cyprus in 1974. In 2003, there was fury in Washington when Turkey’s parliament refused to allow American troops to use Turkish soil as a staging ground for the invasion of Iraq, triggering a deep chill that took years to overcome.

The 2003 rupture may, however, have foreshadowed the beginning of a more fundamental shift in the relationship, with Erdogan embarking on a decade of transformation in Turkey that has perhaps forever changed his country, analysts say. Turkey has grown and prospered under his rule, but it has also begun to tilt toward a more authoritarian, Islamist brand of politics that is increasingly at odds with the model of secularism and pluralism that the United States has held up as a key component of Turkey’s importance to the alliance.

In 2003, as now, Turkey made it plain it did not want to be used as a launching pad for attacks against fellow Muslims in the Middle East, a sentiment Erdogan has repeatedly expressed in his many recent comments critical of U.S. policy. He has accused the United States of being more interested in oil than in helping the people of the region and has made it clear that he does not regard the Islamic State as a greater threat than the Kurdistan Workers’ Party, or PKK, the organization affiliated with the Kurdish Syrians the United States has been helping in Kobane.

“There are growing doubts over whether the U.S. and Turkey share the same priorities and even whether they share the same goals,” Aliriza said. “Even when it comes to defining the enemy — there is no common enemy.”

Turkish officials bristle at suggestions that Turkey is in any way sympathetic to the Islamic State. It is Turkey that has to live with the jihadist group on its borders, not the United States, and Turkey that is most at risk of being targeted by the Islamic State in retaliation for waging war against it, the officials say.

Turks also do not mask their irritation with what they regard as a shortsighted and potentially dangerous U.S. strategy that they believe will not work and could backfire. Turkey believes Syrian President Bashar al-Assad is the root cause of the instability that gave rise to the Islamic State and that leaving him in place will serve only to prolong the war, a senior Turkish official said, speaking on the condition of anonymity because he is not authorized to discuss policy on the record.

Turkey is hosting more than 1.5 million refugees, a huge social and financial burden that will continue to grow if the conflict in Syria is not resolved, the official said.

“They are across the Atlantic,” he said, referring to the United States. “We are a neighbor of Syria’s. We know that if Assad stays, the problem will continue for decades. The Americans have the luxury of cherry-picking the problems, but we need to see them as an entirety.”

Obama and other top U.S. officials have repeatedly said that Assad cannot be part of any long-term solution to the Syria problem. But, another Turkish official said, “saying it is one thing, and doing it is another.”

“Much, much more needs to be done,” the second official said, also speaking on the condition of anonymity. “To fix this region, we have to think big. We have to think long-term and have a holistic strategy underpinned by values that don’t change according to the season.”

U.S. officials acknowledge that Washington policymakers do not always sufficiently take into account the concerns of allies. They also point to areas where Turkey is expanding its cooperation, including restricting the flow of foreign fighters across its borders and identifying the networks in Turkey that support them.

“We’ve seen some steps recently where they are more engaged on both of those issues,” said a senior administration official in Washington, speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss the sensitive diplomacy. “We’re definitely encouraged there.”

And in some ways, the Syria crisis has brought Turkey and the United States closer after a year of building tensions, officials on both sides say. Obama and Erdogan had not spoken since January until they met in Wales in September to discuss the formation of the anti-Islamic State coalition. Lower-level officials have since been talking multiple times a day, Turkish and U.S. officials say. Vice President Biden has announced plans to visit Turkey in November in an effort to smooth over the ruckus over comments he made suggesting that Turkey is responsible for the rise of the Islamic State.

It is hard, however, to avoid the impression that Turkey and the United States are moving on separate tracks — “parallel tracks that don’t converge,” said Gokhan Bacik, a dean at Ipek University in Ankara.

“From now on, this is only a relationship of necessity,” he said. “There is nothing ideologically that the United States and Turkey share. Turkey has changed.”

For Turkey and U.S., at odds over Syria, a 60-year alliance shows signs of crumbling - The Washington Post
 
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