Syria opposition opens first ‘embassy’ in Qatar

[Syrian Lion]

Saudis and Qataris don't really get along with each other based on their foreign policies.

but both have common ground, supporting terrorism and spreading chaos.... GCC policy is the same for most GCC countries...

 

[Ceylal]

It would be a good plan for some countries to fund terrorism in GCC, it will force these dishdasha rats to know their place and not intervene in other sovereign countries.

I'm for that...

The pink rose of Texas

The saavy...The real houri instead what they promise the djihadists

Outside the prairie of everything makrouh, haram,forbidden

Where Flintstones feel acclimated..

 

[Serpentine]

However, Iran is our common enemy, so I will stand by them no matter what. Not only me but most Jordanians.

I may go to hell for this,but what you said gives us some good feelings.You should look who is hating you, it's not always a bad thing.We do what we need to do, and we don't care if we are considered enemy.Actually, without Iran,Arab countries would have no justification or motivation for going on, you should just thank us.We are the reason west is selling you weapons, we are the reason your terrorist supporting is ignored by the west, we are the reason west doesn't care about all that 'human right' none sense or democracy for it's Arab sheikhdoms allies.We are the reason dictators in Arab countries who never get elected are considered 'good dictators'.

Most Arab countries wouldn't hesitate to back stab each other when the proper time comes.Saddam Hussein bites the hands that fed him and attacked Kuwait and Saudi. Arab countries stabbed Saddam back by supporting the war in Iraq and giving their bases to 'liberators' to destroy Iraq.Now Arab countries are helping to destroy Syria by rushing the terror squads in there. Gaddaffi's Libya wanted to overthrow Saudi and other monarchies, even planned assassinations. Saudi Arabia wanted to overthrow Oman's monarchy in 60s and 70s, Yemen was in odds with Saudi Arabia over border disputes and the list goes on.


So please don't pretend you are all like some strong united brotherhood or something.The only reason Arab countries 'seem' to be united are some external forces.Today it's Iran, years ago it was Israel which is not an enemy to Arab kingdoms anymore.

After Iran and Syria, you will turn on each other again.It's only a matter of time until Iran's dispute with west is solved, I just want to watch the show after it when some Arab countries suddenly lose most of their importance.Because most of their use is to stand against Iran, more like a golden expensive gun in western hands.

 

[Surenas]

Where is the poverty exactly, Eastern Amman? I would call them middle class people. AGCC have helped Jordan allot, KSA alone donated 2.2 billion two years ago, built 1 billion worth residential city, last year, they donated 5 billion to invest in some projects, but those aids barely covered Jordanian loss due to Egyptian cut off oil, Syrian refugees and Arab spring. However, Iran is our common enemy, so I will stand by them no matter what. Not only me but most Jordanians.

So why don't you put your money where the mouth is and try to take back your supposed 'three occupied islands?' I can't wait.

 

[somebozo]

Where is the poverty exactly, Eastern Amman? I would call them middle class people. AGCC have helped Jordan allot, KSA alone donated 2.2 billion two years ago, built 1 billion worth residential city, last year, they donated 5 billion to invest in some projects, but those aids barely covered Jordanian loss due to Egyptian cut off oil, Syrian refugees and Arab spring. However, Iran is our common enemy, so I will stand by them no matter what. Not only me but most Jordanians.

This is what Arabs are famous for..easy money. Unlike the Jews, they are incapable of creating wealth by industrialization, economic planning and banking. Hence the Arab history of invading, looting and plundering from neighboring territories.

Let see if Arabs have anything to rival Iran's 5000 years of rich history, culture and heritage?

 

[Surenas]

This is what Arabs are famous for..easy money. Unlike the Jews, they are incapable of creating wealth by industrialization, economic planning and banking. Hence the Arab history of invading, looting and plundering from neighboring territories.

Let see if Arabs have anything to rival Iran's 5000 years of rich history, culture and heritage?

Ibn Khaldun, an Arab (or Berber) himself, said it before:

The Arabs dominate only of the plains, because they are, by their savage nature, people of pillage and corruption. They pillage everything that they can take without fighting or taking risks, then flee to their refuge in the wilderness, and do not stand and do battle unless in self-defense. So when they encounter any difficulty or obstacle, they leave it alone and look for easier prey. And tribes well-fortified against them on the slopes of the hills escape their corruption and destruction, because they prefer not to climb hills, nor expend effort, nor take risks.[56]

Thus the founders of grammar were Sibawaih and after him, al-Farisi and Az-Zajjaj. All of them were of non-Arab (Persian) descent... They invented rules of (Arabic) grammar...[58] great jurists were Persians... only the Persians engaged in the task of preserving knowledge and writing systematic scholarly works. Thus the truth of the statement of the prophet becomes apparent, "If learning were suspended in the highest parts of heaven the Persians would attain it"... The intellectual sciences were also the preserve of the Persians, left alone by the Arabs, who did not cultivate them... as was the case with all crafts... This situation continued in the cities as long as the Persians and Persian countries, Iraq, Khorasan and Transoxiana, retained their sedentary culture.

Muqaddimah - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[anonymus]

@somebozo

You would love this thread

http://www.defence.pk/forums/middle-east-africa/242616-what-if.html

 

[Doritos11]

Ibn Khaldun, an Arab (or Berber) himself, said it before:





Muqaddimah - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Gulf arabs, not the arabized world.

Iraq and Egypt have very old civilizations.

 

[PteX]

Saudis and Qataris don't really get along with each other based on their foreign policies.

Get along or not, all the Arab GCC states take their orders, willingly or otherwise, from KSA.

 

[Doritos11]

Get along or not, all the Arab GCC states take their orders, willingly or otherwise, from KSA.

you mean USA

 

[Ceylal]

I must say, some Iranians are the most deluded people I have ever seen, , Man, Iraq alone threw you back to stone ages let alone Arab GCC with their superior militaries. Before US presence, KSA shot down two Iranian jets and hit a third one .

You either a delusional or Jordan is churning simpletons. The only thing that comes to mind when you talk about GCC superiority, is the battle of Kafdji. At the mere sound of an Iraki tank. The JCC troops led by the KSA, beat the Guiness record of the world fastest retreating troops. If it wasn't for the Gi's they would have reached Cairo! Superiority mon cul!

 

[Ceylal]

Syrians are suffering because of Iranian terrorism, but, beside the killed Iranian terrorists by FSA, today an Iranian jet (Illusion-76)carrying weapon to Assad was shot down over Dimuscuss international air port causing massive explosions which destroyed the nearby buildings: (Congratulations)

They are suffering because of the mayhem cause by the Vendals of the GCC. You are the only blind to that fact. The way you spelled illusion-76 and Dimuscuss you all must have feld the bore size that the Syrian troops left in you tujas. Beside Iran is not the only one, Bilad el el barabera, after they refused the sitting the expulsion of the legitimate Syrian government from the league des arav, are helping the Syrians...

After the Arab Spring: Algeria's standing in a new world
Algeria has the potential to emerge from the Arab Spring as a regional power. This may be good news for western states, but it's bad new for Arab revolutionaries

Is Algeria feeling the cold during the Arab Winter?

Ghaffar Hussain

On 25 March 2013 10:20



In the context of the Arab Spring, or Arab Winter, much attention has been paid to those states seen to be exerting influence from behind the scenes. Saudi Arabia and Qatar are using their immense wealth to promote conservative Sunni factions; Iran, along with Hezbollah, is supporting fellow Shia's; and the US, rather than supporting liberal secular forces, is sticking by its realist principles and backing whoever it thinks will come out on top.


But very little attention has been devoted to a large and populous country that could emerge from events as a key regional power. Algeria is one of the few countries that has remained, in the main, largely unaffected by the Arab Spring. Early protests withered away when the regime made it clear it was not about to cave in to protester demands and the Algerian public had no appetite for confrontation since they were still convalescing from years of brutal civil war.

Nevertheless, the dictatorial regime in Algeria remains deeply concerned about events in the region and is actively seeking to prevent further challenges to fellow dictatorial regimes.

As the uprising in Libya progressed, Algeria, much to the dismay of people in North Africa, defended the Ghaddafi regime, refused to recognise the National Transitional Council (NTC), and opposed NATO intervention. It was even accused of providing military support to the regime.

Algeria was not only concerned about a popular revolution in neighbouring Libya setting a precedent, it feared regime change in Libya would create instability in the Maghrib and the Sahel, resulting in further tribal secession demands and a boost to al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghrib (AQIM). On this point, at least, Algerian fears were vindicated by subsequent events.

Algeria has also taken a similar stance towards the uprising in Syria. Since at least September last year, and possibly much earlier, Algeria has been working very closely with Iran, a long-time ally, to support the ailing Assad regime. Iran and Algeria were the only two countries to object to the suspension of Syria from the OIC, at a meeting in Saudi Arabia last year. More recently, Algeria, along with Lebanon and Iraq, opposed an Arab League decision to support Arab states that armed opposition groups in Syria.

There is no evidence that Algeria is providing any military support to the Assad regime, but unconfirmed rumours do claim that Algerian military aircraft are landing in Syria every few days. Such a development, if confirmed, would not come as a major surprise since Algeria does have the largest defence budget in Africa ($10.3 billion) and is a strong military power with projection capabilities.

Along with Iran and Russia, Algeria does not want to see the end of the Assad regime. It fears the domino effect could visit it next, and success for the uprising in Syria would only embolden local dissidents and jihadist factions. Furthermore, with the support of Algeria, Iran and Russia, Assad, especially in the absence of external intervention, may just hang on to power.

Regardless of Algeria's support for Assad and its alliance with Iran, the North African state has also managed to use the Arab Spring to improve its relationship with the US and UK. With Libya, Tunisia and Egypt still struggling to get back on their feet, the secular dictatorship in Algeria, perhaps the last in the region, has emerged as a highly reliable and important counter-terrorism and trade partner.

Both David Cameron and Hillary Clinton have paid visits to the country in recent months in order to strengthen ties. Events in Mali and the seizure of an oil facility in southern Algeria by jihadist factions have only served to reinforce the importance of having a strategic alliance with this highly capable and relatively wealthy state.

This development, however, highlights an interesting dilemma. Western powers may vocalise support for democratic movements, secularism, liberalism and human rights but their strategic and economic interests are best served by regimes that are stable, and in the MENA region that tends to be dictatorships.

Algeria has the potential to emerge from the Arab Spring as a regional power. It has a well-equipped military with counter-terrorism expertise, large energy reserves, a growing economy, and, more importantly, it is stable. This may be good news for western states concerned about the rise of jihadist groups in the region and trade, but it is bad news for Arab revolutionaries.

Ghaffar Hussain is a counter terrorism expert and Contributing Editor to The Commentator

I love the last sentence:

bad news for Arab revolutionaries

And this not it yet, without Arab countries effective contribution in the sanctions on Iran by pledging to make up Iranian oil cut off oil, sanctions wouldn't have worked in the first place, I believe you know more than me of the sanctions dire effects...right? I'm sorry about the people, but Iranian regime terrorism fund had to be stopped.

Effective arab contributions yeh absolutely the contrary...like the famous saying goes..E THA 3ORIBAT KHORIBAT

Iran will come at the top...No GCC ,european or US sanction will derai Iran from being the big kahuna of the region...KEEP DREAMING..

 

[BLACKEAGLE]

I may go to hell for this,but what you said gives us some good feelings.You should look who is hating you, it's not always a bad thing.We do what we need to do, and we don't care if we are considered enemy.Actually, without Iran,Arab countries would have no justification or motivation for going on, you should just thank us.We are the reason west is selling you weapons, we are the reason your terrorist supporting is ignored by the west, we are the reason west doesn't care about all that 'human right' none sense or democracy for it's Arab sheikhdoms allies.We are the reason dictators in Arab countries who never get elected are considered 'good dictators'.

Whenever I say Iran I mean the the regime not people, I don't have to say it everytime. And yes, Iranian threat gave GCC the motivation to start building up strong armies and industralised economy based on knowledge. The West can't open it's mouth on GCC because they can't upset them because it would lead to dire consequences on their influence in the region and their economies.

Most Arab countries wouldn't hesitate to back stab each other when the proper time comes.Saddam Hussein bites the hands that fed him and attacked Kuwait and Saudi. Arab countries stabbed Saddam back by supporting the war in Iraq and giving their bases to 'liberators' to destroy Iraq.Now Arab countries are helping to destroy Syria by rushing the terror squads in there. Gaddaffi's Libya wanted to overthrow Saudi and other monarchies, even planned assassinations. Saudi Arabia wanted to overthrow Oman's monarchy in 60s and 70s, Yemen was in odds with Saudi Arabia over border disputes and the list goes on.
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Saudi never planned to overthrow Omani regime but it's the other way around, they contributed along with Jordan in fighting the socialist insurgency which was a threat to them all. However, the backstabbers have gone especially Assad is about to and Qaddafi, the others have may have problems but they're minor, actually Jordan has issues with Qatar and Egypt, it's not backstabbing because they all work to reach the same goal in strengthening Arabs but they have different ways to reach it, Saddam thought it's better to forcibly annex them , Egypt think it's better to reach it through turning Arab governments into MPs, and Jordan through moderation...etc.

So please don't pretend you are all like some strong united brotherhood or something.The only reason Arab countries 'seem' to be united are some external forces.Today it's Iran, years ago it was Israel which is not an enemy to Arab kingdoms anymore.

Israel is the enemy, we have issues but it doesn't mean not to have collective stance against it.

After Iran and Syria, you will turn on each other again.It's only a matter of time until Iran's dispute with west is solved, I just want to watch the show after it when some Arab countries suddenly lose most of their importance.Because most of their use is to stand against Iran, more like a golden expensive gun in western hands.

The West can't just go against 22 Arab countries for Iran, USA economy won't survive without the petro-dollar system, not to mention that GCC own 10% of US economy. And no matter how much Iran gets rich or strong, it can't confront 22 Arab countries. World super powers, especially Russia, China, France and UK desperately try to get Arab trust and friendship, as they know the strategic importance of having them as friends on their global influence and economies. South Korea, Iran, France, UK,USA, Germany, Turkey...etc have Arab speaking TVs sucking up to Arabs and defaming Israel, Iran and Turkey went through hell to get some influence among Arab people . Iran has never and will never be as important as Arabs.


Just look at Turkey which was as unimportant as Oman, but it turned into a major regional player just by befriending Arabs.

Saudis and Qataris don't really get along with each other based on their foreign policies.

No, they don't because of their Al-Jazeera and supporting MP governments. But as I said, they unite against an external enemy.

 

[Syrian Lion]

I thought it was in KSA before you modify your post..
Anyway, the regime turned all it's flights to an airport in Swayda as the Dimuscuss one was destroyed as a result of plane crash and explosion. I will post the pictures as soon as I get them.

I'm still waiting for the pictures
Have some dignity and stop watching Alarabieh and Aljazeera....

Damascus Airport shown at the start of 1:13

 

[Ceylal]

I thought it was in KSA before you modify your post..
Anyway, the regime turned all it's flights to an airport in Swayda as the Dimuscuss one was destroyed as a result of plane crash and explosion. I will post the pictures as soon as I get them.

El khanzira didn't have one already made??? You should have called them, to have one fabricated, before you made the announcement..