Swedens foreign minister in Vilnius: NATO membership would diminish defence cooperation with Finland

[senheiser]

Sweden's foreign minister in Vilnius: NATO membership would diminish defence cooperation with Finland Friday, October 9, 2015

Sweden's Foreign Minister Margot Wallstrom says she does not support the idea of joining NATO, since that would diminish the significance of Sweden's common security policy with Finland, BNS reports. Margot Wallstrom© Nuotr. iš asmeninio albumo During a lecture at Vilnius University on Thursday, the Swedish minister said that NATO was "a response to only one or two issues". "We are not alone and we do not choose to be alone. We are cooperating with Finland in the field of security and we will remain united with Finland," Wallstrom said. Asked weather Sweden's social democratic party she represents would back the country's NATO membership, as some other parties do, Wallstrom said "no". She also noted that it was not a sensible thing for Sweden to have been cutting military spending eight years in a row, which was why Stockholm was currently strengthening the country's defence capabilities. Any more substantial policy changes would require the backing of the nation and Finland, she said. A public opinion survey published by Sifo this October suggests that 41 percent of Sweden's population support possible NATO membership, while 39 percent oppose it.

Read more: Sweden's foreign minister in Vilnius: NATO membership would diminish defence cooperation with Finland - EN.DELFI

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

And she is Foreign Minister in a minority government.

The hostile behaviour of Russia has resulted in a change in public opinion.
For the FIRST TIME, a poll on possible NATO membership generated more
positive than negative voters.
For the FIRST TIME, the opposition has clearly stated that they are for NATO
membership, and may make this an election issue.
Previously, the opposition has been positive,but made no plans even though
they governed the country for eight years, until last autumn.
In December, an agreement was made between the government and the opposition,
to strengthen a minority government, by guaranteeing that the government
would get THEIR budget approved.
This agreement was terminated last week, so a new election might be only months away.

The unfriendly attitude of Russian press making wild statements without any factual basis,
further accentuates the situation.
If Russia wants Sweden and Finland to join NATO, it should just continue what it is doing.

 

[senheiser]

And she is Foreign Minister in a minority government.

The hostile behaviour of Russia has resulted in a change in public opinion.
For the FIRST TIME, a poll on possible NATO membership generated more
positive than negative voters.
For the FIRST TIME, the opposition has clearly stated that they are for NATO
membership, and may make this an election issue.
Previously, the opposition has been positive,but made no plans even though
they governed the country for eight years, until last autumn.
In December, an agreement was made between the government and the opposition,
to strengthen a minority government, by guaranteeing that the government
would get THEIR budget approved.
This agreement was terminated last week, so a new election might be only months away.

The unfriendly attitude of Russian press making wild statements without any factual basis,
further accentuates the situation.
If Russia wants Sweden and Finland to join NATO, it should just continue what it is doing.

yeah great message you russophobe i cant wait until you get replaced with africans lolmao. but yeah keep hating Russia

 

[TurkeyForever]

Russia is a joke

 

[yugocrosrb95]

yeah great message you russophobe i cant wait until you get replaced with africans lolmao. but yeah keep hating Russia

...and what do you have against africans?

 

[anon45]

I could see Sweden joining NATO meaning less potential interoperability with Finnish forces (NATO standardization) assuming they don't join NATO as well.

Defense agreement wise though, there is nothing preventing Sweden from continuing its defense agreements with Finland.

 

[Steve781]

you russophobe

There's a general rule I've observed. If any group of people has to invent a specific term to describe dislike of them and proceeds to use that term any chance they get then that dislike is justified.

 

[senheiser]

There's a general rule I've observed. If any group of people has to invent a specific term to describe dislike of them and proceeds to use that term any chance they get then that dislike is justified.

so the holocaust is also justified? Another exposed nazi/racist from UK.

40 million chinese, 27 Million Russians and 6 million jews died you clown

...and what do you have against africans?

nothing they are good people. I just make fun of racist here

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

yeah great message you russophobe i cant wait until you get replaced with africans lolmao. but yeah keep hating Russia

I really do not have any opinion about RUSSIANS.
The few I met, (in Irkutsk) were quite friendly.
I do have an opinion about Russian / Soviet policy.

It is not a cooincidence that all European countries that were "liberated" by the Soviet Union
have joined NATO to avoid a repeat of the experience.
Stalins terror regime bears the blame.
Now Putin is slowly trying to copy him (still some way to go, though).
The former Soviet Republics still allied with Russia, are horrible dictatorships, the lot.
His support for el-Assad, as well as his former support for Saddam Hussein stinks.

No country however, have suffered more from Russian/Soviet policy than Russia.
Mothers of Russian Soldiers killed in Ukraine are now forbidden to even tell
the world why their sons were killed. It is a state secret.

Shame on You!

I could see Sweden joining NATO meaning less potential interoperability with Finnish forces (NATO standardization) assuming they don't join NATO as well.

Defense agreement wise though, there is nothing preventing Sweden from continuing its defense agreements with Finland.

I would assume that both Sweden and Finland would join NATO at the same time.
Stupid threats and provocations from Russia are simply counterproductive,
and increases the probability that we join NATO.

How does it feel Senheiser, that you are working FOR Sweden joining NATO?

Must be really frustrating to not be able to change your pattern of behaviour
So You actually support Your goals.

 

[opruh]

Turkey is a joke.

There, I fixed your sentence.

 

[mike2000 is back]

...and what do you have against africans?

LOL You have never been anywhere close to Russia then. They are the most racist people in Europe. Even the Russians i know in U.K hate blacks to the core, even when its not their country .lol So go figure out. This is just to those who think we in the west are racist, not knowing that western Europe is still the most open/welcoming region in the world(well bar Africa itself).

I really do not have any opinion about RUSSIANS.
The few I met, (in Irkutsk) were quite friendly.
I do have an opinion about Russian / Soviet policy.

It is not a cooincidence that all European countries that were "liberated" by the Soviet Union
have joined NATO to avoid a repeat of the experience.
Stalins terror regime bears the blame.
Now Putin is slowly trying to copy him (still some way to go, though).
The former Soviet Republics still allied with Russia, are horrible dictatorships, the lot.
His support for el-Assad, as well as his former support for Saddam Hussein stinks.

No country however, have suffered more from Russian/Soviet policy than Russia.
Mothers of Russian Soldiers killed in Ukraine are now forbidden to even tell
the world why their sons were killed. It is a state secret.

Shame on You!



I would assume that both Sweden and Finland would join NATO at the same time.
Stupid threats and provocations from Russia are simply counterproductive,
and increases the probability that we join NATO.

How does it feel Senheiser, that you are working FOR Sweden joining NATO?

Must be really frustrating to not be able to change your pattern of behaviour
So You actually support Your goals.

As i said before in another thread. Putin's current actions is the best thing that could happen to us. since it has made our leaders to not only realize the folly of cutting our military budget/troops/equipment etc, but also made Baltic countries that weren't always very willing to join western European countries to now seek U.K/U.S/French and even German support/protection and even welcoming establishment of military bases/soldiers in their soil to dissuade Russia from expanding any further.. That's good Putin keep it up, couldn't have asked for more. The more Putin threatens Baltic and even historically peaceful Scandinavian countries the better for us.

Michael Fallon: UK to send troops to Baltic region - BBC News
Britain to station troops in Baltic region 'to deter Russian aggression' | UK news | The Guardian
Britain to send troops to Eastern Europe in display of force against Russia — RT UK
US Fighter Jets Sent to Baltic States After They Invoke NATO Treaty
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/14/w...o-put-heavy-weaponry-in-east-europe.html?_r=0

Even Peaceful Germany has come to see Russia under Putin for what it is: Trying to revive an old empire.lol
Disqus - Merkel Vows NATO Will Protect Baltic States From Russian Aggression | News | The Moscow Times


Keep it up Putin, scare all your neighbors. After doing that you complain:
Russia Condemns "Aggressive" US Weapons Deployment; Will Send Troops To Protect Border | Zero Hedge

There, I fixed your sentence.

Whats up with you Chinese? You always defending Russia(never mind that they also raped you well in Manchuria and took your land to this day.lol), yet you will defend them even when you know they are in the wrong. lol I have never seen a Russian here defending China against its disputes with Vietnam/India/Japan/Philippines etc.
I Wonder why (not).

 

[opruh]

LOL You have never been anywhere close to Russia then. They are the most racist people in Europe. Even the Russians i know in U.K hate blacks to the core, even when its not their country .lol So go figure out. This is just to those who think we in the west are racist, not knowing that western Europe is still the most open/welcoming region in the world(well bar Africa itself).



As i said before in another thread. Putin's current actions is the best thing that could happen to us. since it has made our leaders to not only realize the folly of cutting our military budget/troops/equipment etc, but also made Baltic countries that weren't always very willing to join western European countries to now seek U.K/U.S/French and even German support/protection and even welcoming establishment of military bases/soldiers in their soil to dissuade Russia from expanding any further.. That's good Putin keep it up, couldn't have asked for more. The more Putin threatens Baltic and even historically peaceful Scandinavian countries the better for us.

Michael Fallon: UK to send troops to Baltic region - BBC News
Britain to station troops in Baltic region 'to deter Russian aggression' | UK news | The Guardian
Britain to send troops to Eastern Europe in display of force against Russia — RT UK
US Fighter Jets Sent to Baltic States After They Invoke NATO Treaty
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/14/w...o-put-heavy-weaponry-in-east-europe.html?_r=0

Even Peaceful Germany has come to see Russia under Putin for what it is: Trying to revive an old empire.lol
Disqus - Merkel Vows NATO Will Protect Baltic States From Russian Aggression | News | The Moscow Times


Keep it up Putin, scare all your neighbors. After doing that you complain:
Russia Condemns "Aggressive" US Weapons Deployment; Will Send Troops To Protect Border | Zero Hedge





Whats up with you Chinese? You always defending Russia(never mind that they also raped you well in Manchuria and took your land to this day.lol), yet you will defend them even when you know they are in the wrong. lol I have never seen a Russian here defending China against its disputes with Vietnam/India/Japan/Philippines etc.
I Wonder why (not).

Sorry, but Russia > tiny british isles.

 

[mandrom]

Sweden's foreign minister in Vilnius: NATO membership would diminish defence cooperation with Finland Friday, October 9, 2015

Sweden's Foreign Minister Margot Wallstrom says she does not support the idea of joining NATO, since that would diminish the significance of Sweden's common security policy with Finland, BNS reports. Margot Wallstrom© Nuotr. iš asmeninio albumo During a lecture at Vilnius University on Thursday, the Swedish minister said that NATO was "a response to only one or two issues". "We are not alone and we do not choose to be alone. We are cooperating with Finland in the field of security and we will remain united with Finland," Wallstrom said. Asked weather Sweden's social democratic party she represents would back the country's NATO membership, as some other parties do, Wallstrom said "no". She also noted that it was not a sensible thing for Sweden to have been cutting military spending eight years in a row, which was why Stockholm was currently strengthening the country's defence capabilities. Any more substantial policy changes would require the backing of the nation and Finland, she said. A public opinion survey published by Sifo this October suggests that 41 percent of Sweden's population support possible NATO membership, while 39 percent oppose it.

Read more: Sweden's foreign minister in Vilnius: NATO membership would diminish defence cooperation with Finland - EN.DELFI

Why do you care? Let Sweden go its way. And on africans and wahabbi sunni refugees let them overrun sweden. Already rape levels are at century highs thanks to these refugees asylums. Let them reap what they sow. There will be a time when Sweden will be under islamist siege and if it falls then their dhimmi swedish women will be islamist property to ravish lol.Already Press of sweden does everything to keep the crimes of somalian wahabbi ravishers and rapists under curtains lol.

Then watch how Swedish dhimmis will beg Russia to intervene .

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

Why do you care? Let Sweden go its way. And on africans and wahabbi sunni refugees let them overrun sweden. Already rape levels are at century highs thanks to these refugees asylums. Let them reap what they sow. There will be a time when Sweden will be under islamist siege and if it falls then their dhimmi swedish women will be islamist property to ravish lol.Already Press of sweden does everything to keep the crimes of somalian wahabbi ravishers and rapists under curtains lol.

Then watch how Swedish dhimmis will beg Russia to intervene .

Or we are importing Africans, so that Russia will shun taking control over hundreds of thousands of them, LOL...

 

[mike2000 is back]

Sorry, but Russia > tiny british isles.

Even if that was the case, whats that got to do with you Chinese? Its a European rivalry between Britain/France/E.U and Russia, i don't understand why you Chinese keep trying to get involve. you got enough to handle with your Asians 'brothers' in SCS and with India/Vietnam(who funny enough are also supported/armed by Russia). Or maybe its that you people have an inferiority complex when it comes to Russia?

Plu please stop claiming to be a Filipinos living in Egypt, everybody here knows you are a Chinese. Its not even funny anymore. Though i'm still laughing.