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[batmannow]

so does this means a bye bye to FT2000, what are we going to have then?

what about the SPADA?

besides the above link never says NO to FT2000 but then the question is the same, when are we going to have them?

why dont we go for the HQ9, is it the finnance or something else!

ITS SIMPLY THE KICKBACKS?

 

[Arsalan]

ITS SIMPLY THE KICKBACKS?

they may better be reffered to as KICK IN THE *** !!

these things are going to ruine us!!

 

[Arsalan]

in air defence it is not only the missiles!!

radars play a key role, here is some info about Pakistan air defence radar system!

Pakistan Air Defence Ground Environment System
Pakistan has made major improvements in its early warning/command and control capability over the last ten years. The Hughes Corporation was responsible for the integration and automation of the whole system. The Pakistan ADGES programme was begun in 1977 and is referred to as the "Pakistan Air defence System 77" (PADS 77), at least till 1987. It was estimated to cost $120 million of which half went for infrastructure and half for six TPS-43G radars which form its basis.

Pakistan Air Defence Command was formed in 1975. It is based at Chaklala and exercises surveillance, control, and coordination of all Pakistan airspace. The HQ is built underground, to a depth of somewhere 5 to 10 meters. It has four rows of consoles with about 25-20 men operating them. All aircraft and airbases are represented on the screens, including one that coordinates all output from the consoles. It has been reported as 'the most modern ever seen' by a visiting western air official.

Subordinate to it are four Sector Operations Center, and subordinate to the SOCs are seven Control and Reporting centers. The sectors with their headquarters are:

North: Peshawar West: Quetta Center: Sargodha South: Karachi

There are 8 separate identified radar systems netted into the PAF air defence system. Of these, five are long-range systems and the remainder low-level.


Long Range Radar Systems
FPS-89/100: There are two installations, at Sakesar near Sargodha and Badin in the Thar desert. They are modernized versions of the US-supplied MAP radar, the FPS-6/20. The former is the height-finder, the latter is the search radar with a 350 km range. Sakesar also has a Plessey HF-200 height-finder acquired in 1967. Badin's FPS-6 was destroyed in the 1965 war and was replaced with a Chinese height- finder.
Type 514:This is a Chinese system first acquired in 1978. It is known to be installed at Skardu and Gilgit in the Northern areas and at other locations. No other details are available.

Condor: The high-level system was acquired from the UK in 1968 and serves with Nos. 400, 403 and 410 Squadrons.

TPS-43G: This transportable radar is expected to remain in first line US service till 2010. Pakistan purchased sis systems at a cost of $60 million and all were commissioned by 1985. It consists of two modules, each less than 3 tons, and can be transported by two 5-ton trucks, a C-130, or two medium-lift helicopters. A six-man team can reassemble the radar within 50 minutes. It's high-level range is 400 km, but its low-level range is classified. It is a 3D system with a 4 megawatt output. The system was the second phase of Project Crystal initiated in 1976 to provide Pakistan with a modern air defence system.

Thomson-CSF ATC: As far back as 1984 the Pakistan Government planned a modern Air Traffic Control System that could be netted into its ADGE. Possibly owing to financial stringency, the six radar started arriving only in 1987. The Pakistani ATC radar are at Pasni, Jiawani, Karachi, Rahim Yar Khan, Lahore and Rawalpindi. Though the locations correspond strictly to Pakistan's growing civil air traffic routes, they are ideally placed to boost early warning from the Indian frontier.

It is of interest that in 1969 two Soviet P.35 high-level radar are PRV height-finders were installed, being decommissioned in 1979 owing to maintenance and spares difficulties.


Low Level Radar Systems
AR-1/6 Radar: In 1968-69 six AR-1 Plessey low level radars were installed, followed by 3 of the mobile versions, called AR-15. The range is about 150 km.
MPDR: very major investment was made between 1979-80 in 45 Mobile Pulse Doppler Radars acquired from Siemens of Germany. These are called the SILLACS MPDR 45/E. SILLACS stand for Siemens Low Level Air Defence Control System. They are controlled from six Control and Reporting Centers which are also mobile, and correspond presumably the PAF's six MPDR wings.

Each CRC can control up to 8 radars; the CRC is data-linked to the Sector Operations Center. According to Janes Weapons System 1987-88 edition, there are two fully mobile versions one with 45km range another with 60 km. There is a third version, transportable, with a 90 km range. The first two are single vehicle system with a radar mast extendable to 18 meters and a shelter for the operating crew. The CRC is in two units, a shelter with 4 workstations and two assistant's positions and power generators on trailers.

The MPDR project was the first phase of Project Crystal.


US Low Level Systems
Pakistan has been buying US-low level systems, probably the TPS-63 or 70 or both. One such buy for four low-level air defence radars was identified in a march 1990 list to the US Congress.
It may be noted that Pakistan has the capability to completely overhaul all radars except the Chinese type 514s and possibly the US TPS-43.

i hope you people find this info intresting and helpful

thanks!

 

[Arsalan]

no news updates about any system,,

wah tabout the FT2000 and SPADA, where are they! there is nothing about them anywhere to be founf!
i guess some one from within the military can properly explain the issue to all our benifit!

regards!

 

[TaimiKhan]

no news updates about any system,,

wah tabout the FT2000 and SPADA, where are they! there is nothing about them anywhere to be founf!
i guess some one from within the military can properly explain the issue to all our benifit!

regards!

By Tom kington

Pakistan will test-fire next spring the Spada 2000 air defense system it has acquired from MBDA Italia, officials at the Italian firm said.The test-firing, which will be staged in Pakistan in the first half of 2010, will follow the delivery in February of the first of 10 Spada batteries ordered by Pakistan for 415 million euros ($565.1 million) in 2007."We aim to deliver all 10 of the batteries within 36 months of the test-firing, that is to say by 2013," said Antonio Perfetti, CEO of MBDA Italia, which is the Finmeccanica-owned Italian operation within the European missile house MBDA.Operated by Italy and Spain, each Spada 2000 system features two firing sections, each containing two to four missile launchers, each hosting six Aspide 2000 missiles. The missiles have an intercept range of more than 20 kilometers.Since the contract became operational in February 2008, MBDA has launched the construction of facilities in Karachi for maintenance on the systems.The set-up forms part of an offset arrangement on the sale, which Perfetti said had been "important" to winning the contract.Two facilities are being prepared, one for maintenance of the Spada system and a second for guidance system testing and maintenance of the Aspide missiles, both completed in February.Training of Pakistani technicians will start this year, while Pakistani military officials visited MBDA in Italy last week to follow progress, part of a cycle of visits.Perfetti said the Italian military was continuing to act as liaison with the customer. A second MBDA official added that the Italian Air Force had already helped prove the effectiveness of the system in 2005 when it staged eight test-launches at its Salto di Quirra range for visiting Pakistani officials.

Asian Defence Source

http://www.defence.pk/forums/milita...a-2000-plus-complex-inauguration-karachi.html

 

[echo 1]

very good news to hear

 

[Arsalan]

By Tom kington

Pakistan will test-fire next spring the Spada 2000 air defense system it has acquired from MBDA Italia, officials at the Italian firm said.The test-firing, which will be staged in Pakistan in the first half of 2010, will follow the delivery in February of the first of 10 Spada batteries ordered by Pakistan for 415 million euros ($565.1 million) in 2007."We aim to deliver all 10 of the batteries within 36 months of the test-firing, that is to say by 2013," said Antonio Perfetti, CEO of MBDA Italia, which is the Finmeccanica-owned Italian operation within the European missile house MBDA.Operated by Italy and Spain, each Spada 2000 system features two firing sections, each containing two to four missile launchers, each hosting six Aspide 2000 missiles. The missiles have an intercept range of more than 20 kilometers.Since the contract became operational in February 2008, MBDA has launched the construction of facilities in Karachi for maintenance on the systems.The set-up forms part of an offset arrangement on the sale, which Perfetti said had been "important" to winning the contract.Two facilities are being prepared, one for maintenance of the Spada system and a second for guidance system testing and maintenance of the Aspide missiles, both completed in February.Training of Pakistani technicians will start this year, while Pakistani military officials visited MBDA in Italy last week to follow progress, part of a cycle of visits.Perfetti said the Italian military was continuing to act as liaison with the customer. A second MBDA official added that the Italian Air Force had already helped prove the effectiveness of the system in 2005 when it staged eight test-launches at its Salto di Quirra range for visiting Pakistani officials.

Asian Defence Source

http://www.defence.pk/forums/milita...a-2000-plus-complex-inauguration-karachi.html

can you clearify the dates of this report as it is of significant importance. we have been listening about SPADA comming to us since some time around 2003 i gues but there is no report of the system being inducted. even it is not known that whether we have got them or not!!

so fro Mr.Echo

very good news to hear

nothing to be excited about until we get some confirmed news of Pakistan really getting this system!
the sane goes for FT2000, can some one tell us about the current status of both these systems!

regards!

 

[Zarbe Momin]

It is very dissappointing for me. In kargil Pakistan had problems, Pakistan didnt used PAF due to lack of BVR technology and other side Pakistan didnt had long range air defence system. Pakistan army and its sotrages were on fate of indian air force mirages and then mirage decided that pakistan army should leave kargil. Now 10 years had been passed and we have still same system.

 

[Super Falcon]

spada 200 is best for medium range targets and very lethal best available system

 

[ouiouiouiouiouioui]

http://217.218.67.244/presstv/20090607/Shahin Missile.wmv

 

[ouiouiouiouiouioui]

edited....below...i find this person funny

 

[ouiouiouiouiouioui]

 

[Patriot]

http://217.218.67.244/presstv/20090607/Shahin Missile.wmv

It's largely untested and created by Iranians who make a lot of false claims.MBDA on the other hand is one of the leading manfacturer in Missile Technology.I am glad Pakistan chose MBDA defence system.We should try to sign a deal regarding Meteor for our fighters jet's with MBDA.

 

[TOPGUN]

We need this sys asap! never know wat will happen in the future we must protect our land at all cost!

 

[Super Falcon]

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