Supreme Court asks Centre to reveal all names in the #BlackMoney list tomorrow

[axisofevil]

We cant even keep a tab on terror funding in India, and we assume we can keep a check on black money stashed abroad? When will Indians wake up and realize, Congress never had a roadmap for properly developing India from the ground up in all spheres like China?

More than likely, black money is stashed in Congress friendly countries, Dubai, Maldives, etc. Don't forget the Supreme Court asked the Congress to submit the names back in 2011? How can a gov't avoid and ignore the Supreme Court? Shows you who really is pulling the strings in India. Don't forget shortly after 2011, Sonia mysteriously vanished out of India for an "illness".....more than likely she went to move the black money elsewhere.


Congress is being blackmailed by foreigners who know their financial dealings. No wonder this country wasn;t moving anywhere.

 

[Star Wars]

All of a sudden when NDA was doing it, members of this forum become wiser and came up with different reasons to defend the actions..

Maybe you want to actually come up with counters rather than this one liners , fact is the butthurt SC had access to the data all along but they decided to make a drama out of it

 

[TejasMk3]

Random bit of info:
One of the judges who was part of the panel, and wanted the list retired today:

Her father in law was the finance minister of Gujarat, from the congress party .

 

[Nova2]

Of course, but that's why these public naming should be done with responsibility too and only with proper reasons, not only because a person has a foreign account.

Agreed,no one would be surprised if a business man's name pops up into that list of 627 ,but many all of those names if made public would effect the markets on a whole,it would effect more if someone as MD of dabur for example,is the suspect.they need to be carefull and responsible,though i want all such people to be put behind bars sooner than later.

 

[NKVD]

That is the only way to make them public without breaching the treaties, that's why NDA can't simply announce them either, even if they wanted.

actually they can if they have full evidence Arun jaitley speak it in Personal interview with NDTV Recently few days back with barkha dutt .Disclosure of 3 names which are come out officially were after charge-sheet filed in Courts same go with other Names

 

[sancho]

actually they can if they have full evidence Arun jaitley speak it in Personal interview with NDTV Recently few days back with barkha dutt .Disclosure of 3 names which are come out officially were after charge-sheet filed in Courts same go with other Names

The evidence is the base for the case, but having evidence alone doesn't give the government to release the names, charging the case at court does!

 

[axisofevil]

I dont think any businessman or politicans would ever put such money in their NAME! Friends and distant family members to show little or no connection!

 

[NKVD]

The evidence is the base for the case, but having evidence alone doesn't give the government to release the names, charging the case at court does!

Please See the Interview of Arun jaitley with barkha Dutt on Ndtv.Whatever he said just Repeated it to you.

 

[Guynextdoor2]

Maybe you want to actually come up with counters rather than this one liners , fact is the butthurt SC had access to the data all along but they decided to make a drama out of it

Now SC is to blame. Of course Modiji is not to blame....the fact that he has no business objecting to anything the SC asks is obviously doesn't apply to him. They have to be 'soft' and 'diplomatic' and 'not force his fair, lovely & soft' hands. the corrupt group around him should not be targeted as modi may be inconvenienced no?

Random bit of info:
One of the judges who was part of the panel, and wanted the list retired today:

Her father in law was the finance minister of Gujarat, from the congress party .

Of course, father-in-law, mother-in-law, daughter's mother's brother's son-in-law also related to uncle's aunt's mother's father-in-law too....didn't you know?

The evidence is the base for the case, but having evidence alone doesn't give the government to release the names, charging the case at court does!

I'm ok with them not disclosing the names till the cases (themselves a sham) are carried out. But exiting the Black Money treaty- disgustingly smacks of attempts to hide serious offenders.

 

[sancho]

Please See the Interview of Arun jaitley with barkha Dutt on Ndtv.Whatever he said just Repeated it to you.

I have seen it and what you repeated is not the issue, but that you didn't understand what he meant. Again, not the evidence is the key to make the names public, but the case being filed! Only if there is enough evidence to prosecute a case, it will be filled at the court and only when that happend, the names will become public.

 

[Marxist]

Random bit of info:
One of the judges who was part of the panel, and wanted the list retired today:

Her father in law was the finance minister of Gujarat, from the congress party .

interesting info ....similarly in ishrat case a congress leader's daughter was HC judge ....but its difficult to say their relations influenced the case

 

[sancho]

I'm ok with them not disclosing the names till the cases (themselves a sham) are carried out. But exiting the Black Money treaty- disgustingly smacks of attempts to hide serious offenders.

It's a matter of importance and it's actually good and understandable that any government tries to follow such international treaties since it's the base of their co-operation with other countries. However, there should be no doubt that this will be used by politicians to hide behind it of course too.
The problem now is not only for the UPA btw, the NDA is in far bigger trouble. They had pushed the bar so high with pointless promises in the elections, that they have to deliver now to the public. But at the same time, that increases the risks for them too, that at some point somebody related to them will be catched too. Even the fact that within the first names, there were donors of them and the UPA, which shows that this is not an issue related to a specific party or group. Wonder what happens if you look at parts of the donated money was black money too?

However, the bigger question still remains, what if we can prove black money at one of this names? How do we get it back?
Followed a debate yesterday, where one participant said, that the biggest winners of this issue now are the Swiss banks. Because numerous account holders will now deny to have them and since the monitoring is high at the moment will do anything to stay away from them. That means the banks will remain with the unaccounted money and does anybody honestly think they will simply give it to India, only because it's possibly black money from India?
So all this hype about names, or cases at court doesn't get us anything of the money back anytime soon. We might get far more back if we focus on the black money in India, but nobody wants to touch that either and divert the focus abroad instead.

 

[Guynextdoor2]

It's a matter of importance and it's actually good and understandable that any government tries to follow such international treaties since it's the base of their co-operation with other countries. However, there should be no doubt that this will be used by politicians to hide behind it of course too.
The problem now is not only for the UPA btw, the NDA is in far bigger trouble. They had pushed the bar so high with pointless promises in the elections, that they have to deliver now to the public. But at the same time, that increases the risks for them too, that at some point somebody related to them will be catched too. Even the fact that within the first names, there were donors of them and the UPA, which shows that this is not an issue related to a specific party or group. Wonder what happens if you look at parts of the donated money was black money too?

However, the bigger question still remains, what if we can prove black money at one of this names? How do we get it back?
Followed a debate yesterday, where one participant said, that the biggest winners of this issue now are the Swiss banks. Because numerous account holders will now deny to have them and since the monitoring is high at the moment will do anything to stay away from them. That means the banks will remain with the unaccounted money and does anybody honestly think they will simply give it to India, only because it's possibly black money from India?
So all this hype about names, or cases at court doesn't get us anything of the money back anytime soon. We might get far more back if we focus on the black money in India, but nobody wants to touch that either and divert the focus abroad instead.

I might argue that they always knew that it'll be a problem for them. But they've been under the impression that using these as 'issues' for taking on incumbent governments is enough...nothing needs to be done once you get into office. I don't think any of these guys will be brought to book whether under UPA or NDA. Because BOTH are actually a part of the system. Modi's not gonna fire corrupt policemen or officials- he wants them to do his bidding. You need an outsider who is against the system and there is only one.

 

[Star Wars]

Now SC is to blame. Of course Modiji is not to blame....the fact that he has no business objecting to anything the SC asks is obviously doesn't apply to him. They have to be 'soft' and 'diplomatic' and 'not force his fair, lovely & soft' hands. the corrupt group around him should not be targeted as modi may be inconvenienced no?

You still have not come up with any counters, SC had access to the data all along so how can NDA govt. be held responsible ? Now ball is on SC's court as SC has taken over the investigation any further developments will be all in because of the SC . Some people are way too desperate to blame the Modi govt. for no apparent reason . And now people have to go around making assumptions and guesswork in order somehow blame finger on the Modi govt.

 

[sancho]

I might argue that they always knew that it'll be a problem for them. But they've been under the impression that using these as 'issues' for taking on incumbent governments is enough...nothing needs to be done once you get into office. I don't think any of these guys will be brought to book whether under UPA or NDA. Because BOTH are actually a part of the system. Modi's not gonna fire corrupt policemen or officials- he wants them to do his bidding. You need an outsider who is against the system and there is only one.

I think so too, but they might had calculated only with the UPA and the media pointing fingers to their promises, but now SC is taking a rather surprising and pro active stand, which also forces the NDA to act more than they might wanted. Keep in mind that the SIT was a SC order too, so the NDA and not even the UPA if they had won the elections could had rejected to install it. But then again, this is India we are talking, now we have a timeline till march to investigate, but extentions of the timeline wouldn't surprise anybody right?