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Sunni Wahhabi’ Saudi oil for ‘Shia’ Iran oil? No thanks!

Shia oil, Sunni Wahhabi oil is as stupid as another article about India-Saudi energy relationship was a marriage made by Allah.

Other than having a sensationalist headline, it masks the realities.

Infact, we have had a much better relationship with the Saudis in the past eight years than Iran. Foreign relations are based around national interests and who ever puts ideological blinkers around their eyes will loose in the long run.
If you read the article thats exactly the point article wants to make.
We are siding with Iran, not because we have some shias (how does it matter) or civilizational ties( yeah they killed us in loads)
but because of strategic interest.
Iran govt and Indian govt understands it, but outside they talk all the above bullsh*t(at least Indian govt does)
 
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Yet wahhabi sunnis regularly kill shias and it is happening in all parts of the world . I don't care why it happens but what i do know is that Shias are not responsible for most suicide bombings in the world and even most Islamist terror attacks . Btw if you are not a wahabbi sunni then i don't know what you are getting offended about . If you are a wahabbi then that is a different story .

As i said before we are much more comfortable dealing with shias and sufi sunnis then we are with wahabbi sunnis .

Not exactly true, for example, suicide bombings in Israel has been dominated by shia groups like Hizbullah. Ayatollah Kohemnei has religiously justified the suicide bombers attacking Israel.

On the other hand, Wahabbi/Salafi scholars from Saudi Arabia had actually declared that suicide bombings even if it is attacking Israelis is haram as the Quran explicitly states that suicide is haram.

Another example is the death fatwa on Salman Rushdie was again released by Ayatollah who is a shia cleric and criticized by others including Saudi scholars saying that it is UnIslamic to declare a fatwa of death without a proper trial and allowing the accused to stand in trial.

So its not the religious doctrine itself but the political consequences that results in terrorist acts. After all, the person who assassinated Salman Taseer was assassinated by a Barelvi group that emphasise sufistic beliefs and was then praised for his action.


In short, the worst policy decision a government can make is basing its decision on some ideological blinkers of choosing shia muslims or sufi muslims or some other basis. If you look at how the US manages its foreign policy, it has been looking at its national interests rather than choosing which sect of Muslims because it knows that its a flawed startegy. Every group and every religion has fringe fanatics and that has to be tackled.

If you want to understand the fringe ideology regarding how terrorism emerges, you can check out this link http://www.defence.pk/forums/curren...wered-questions-case-pakistan.html#post550583

In short, schools of thoughts doesn't decide wether a group religious or otherwise will take to terrorism, but the militant political activism is.
 
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Shia oil, Sunni Wahhabi oil is as stupid as another article about India-Saudi energy relationship was a marriage made by Allah.

Other than having a sensationalist headline, it masks the realities.

Infact, we have had a much better relationship with the Saudis in the past eight years than Iran. Foreign relations are based around national interests and who ever puts ideological blinkers around their eyes will loose in the long run.

I dont think it is a stupid way to frame the title.

The thing is Saudi(wahhabi) has already announced that it will help the world cope with Iran sanction by increasing its output. Whether that is possible is another issue but why do they need to ?

The fact that Saudi have decided to cushion the world is everything to do with Wahhabi and Shias.

The article has rightly pointed out, the problem is more than oil supply we are more concerned about the concentration of power in the hands of saudis(wahhabi) who have already done much harm to INDIA (through Islamic Jihad).

As far as India is concerned, whether or not IRAN has nukes doesn't make an iota of difference to us. Rather we should support Iran and try to get as many concessions as possible ( One major priority is afganisthan where we share the same view ).

Also, we know EU/US is more driven by paranoia rather than ground truths. Why take stand at their whims ?
 
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Not exactly true, for example, suicide bombings in Israel has been dominated by shia groups like Hizbullah. Ayatollah Kohemnei has religiously justified the suicide bombers attacking Israel.

On the other hand, Wahabbi/Salafi scholars from Saudi Arabia had actually declared that suicide bombings even if it is attacking Israelis is haram as the Quran explicitly states that suicide is haram.

Another example is the death fatwa on Salman Rushdie was again released by Ayatollah who is a shia cleric and criticized by others including Saudi scholars saying that it is UnIslamic to declare a fatwa of death without a proper trial and allowing the accused to stand in trial.

So its not the religious doctrine itself but the political consequences that results in terrorist acts. After all, the person who assassinated Salman Taseer was assassinated by a Barelvi group that emphasise sufistic beliefs and was then praised for his action.


In short, the worst policy decision a government can make is basing its decision on some ideological blinkers of choosing shia muslims or sufi muslims or some other basis. If you look at how the US manages its foreign policy, it has been looking at its national interests rather than choosing which sect of Muslims because it knows that its a flawed startegy. Every group and every religion has fringe fanatics and that has to be tackled.

If you want to understand the fringe ideology regarding how terrorism emerges, you can check out this link http://www.defence.pk/forums/curren...wered-questions-case-pakistan.html#post550583

In short, schools of thoughts doesn't decide wether a group religious or otherwise will take to terrorism, but the militant political activism is.

you may be right about Hezbollah , but it is a fact that most jihadi organisation in the world are Wahabbi and deobandi sunni and this fact cant be ignored .Btw , i have seen israelis hating on HAMAS much more than hezbollah whcih is again a salafi/wahhabi sunni organisation.
 
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Dude , Many Pakistani homes have TataSky and Dish TV Connections
So they get the full quantum of Indian channels though illegally

I haven't seen TataSky yet in any pakistani house but almost every cable operator show indian channels in pakistan about 30% channels in any cable tv service are indian.
 
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Shia oil, Sunni Wahhabi oil? :rofl:

Actually all the oil in the Gulf is Shia's oil as even in UAE, Oman, Saudi Arabia oil deposits are in the areas where there are shias in majority then sunni populated areas of these countries ruled by hardcore sunnis.
 
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Actually all the oil in the Gulf is Shia's oil as even in UAE, Oman, Saudi Arabia oil deposits are in the areas where there are shias in majority then sunni populated areas of these countries ruled by hardcore sunnis.

But they are not owned by shias.
 
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But they are not owned by shias.

That's the sad point they continue to live in poverty.

I don't care about shia sunni as we are friend to both but its sad to see that they are suffering.

BTW, be it sunni or shia Muslims are suffering because of the rulers they choose or dictators they have.

What will they do when oil will run out. This poses a very grim situation.
 
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We are Muslims. We read the same Holy Quran, we recite the same prayers. You are hindu, what would you know?

Why don't you tell this to Laskar-e-Jangvi? when they kill shia muslim in your country.
 
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If 12% of India's oil is getting imported from Iran , Then how about the remaining oil. Does that not include Saudi oil. :coffee:
 
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If 12% of India's oil is getting imported from Iran , Then how about the remaining oil. Does that not include Saudi oil. :coffee:

Not really, another 20% comes from bombay high, 500km from mumbai and other comes from other countries, we are not completely concentrated on dubai
 
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India’s calculations are rooted rather more in the real world of cold-blooded strategic calculations.

Chanakya.... may the Enlightened bless his soul. He truly was the finest strategist of our country. :tup:
 
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