Sunni ISIS murdered 500 Yazidi, make 300 women sex slave

[Azizam]

Target a particular group of people in their role as Humans for being complacent but any attempt to mock religion will result in severe consequences.

Take a look at posts of some member called hussein (not the iranian member). Double standards of this forum is crystal clear.

 

[waz]

Battling Takfir with Takfir, will only lead to you yourself becoming a Takfiri, better acknowledge the problem instead of "Divorcing it", only then will you be able to effectively battle them, otherwise you are just becoming like them, it is very important to not ever fall into extremism, neither with all the way, or against all the way, question everything, and then question it again. It is the only way to achieve true focus.

Takfir is calling someone a disbeliever brother and I haven't done that, especially in mind of the hadith of the Prophet(saws).

I'm afraid over the years our many attempts at "talking it through like brothers", have ended up with us being called kaffirs and then being refused audience with them. We can tackle them without any need to play brother with them, and we are doing a good job of it.

I don't know how, but I don't see it getting resolved either by making it a salafi, takfiri or wahabbi problem. Honestly I don't know the difference between them. What I do know is that ISIS calls itself Sunni and their state an Islamic caliphate and calls for wholesale iradication of non Muslims.

It is such a problem though Illusion and i'm sorry to say this but your posts are a bit ill-informed, innocent I say, especially with the years I have been involved in this whole business.

You do know that apart irradiation of non-Muslims or expulsion, they also have blown up Sufi tombs, overtaken mosques and killed many Imams. Now how would any Iraqi Christian (I know plenty) feel if I said that as Iraqis you shouldn't "divorce" yourselves from them, embrace them as fellow Iraqis (those that are) and solve the problem.

@Multani @Hyperion

 

[illusion8]

Takfir is calling someone a disbeliever brother and I haven't done that, especially in mind of the hadith of the Prophet(saws).

I'm afraid over the years our many attempts at "talking it through like brothers", have ended up with us being called kaffirs and then being refused audience with them. We can tackle them without any need to play brother with them, and we are doing a good job of it.



It is such a problem though Illusion and i'm sorry to say this but your posts are a bit ill-informed, innocent I say, especially with the years I have been involved in this whole business.

You do know that apart irradiation of non-Muslims or expulsion, they also have blown up Sufi tombs, overtaken mosques and killed many Imams. Now how would any Iraqi Christian (I know plenty) feel if I said that as Iraqis you shouldn't "divorce" yourselves from them, embrace them as fellow Iraqis (those that are) and solve the problem.

You got a point there.

Now how would any Iraqi Christian (I know plenty) feel if I said that as Iraqis you shouldn't "divorce" yourselves from them, embrace them as fellow Iraqis (those that are) and solve the problem.

But I don't see how the Iraqi's on their own are going to solve the problem by divorcing them either.

 

[waz]

You got a point there.



But I don't see how the Iraqi's on their own are going to solve the problem by divorcing them either.

You know my friend the only way they can solve this problem is by force and propagation by other Muslim groups against them. Sadly we have long gone past embracing them, I'd go as far as to say that point left us back in the early 90's, with the conflicts going on then.

 

[KingMamba]

Goddess kali loved blood................maybe she had iron deficiency,who knows.
Whats ur obsession with kali??

Are u a secret bhakt?
Now comeon,good boy............let it come out

Lol iron deficiency.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

There is no sectarianism here my friend and you know exactly what I mean. I don't want to start off with Aqeedah issues here.

Yes there are peaceful "Salafis", but there is no denying that the vast majority of folks who are committing appalling atrocities follow a certain Aqeedah.

it is true
no Taliban terrorist is found to be Beralvi or shia and its mainly the Deobandi madrassahs run under the name of Molana Sami Al Haq that provide fresh recruits that are blowing themselves up in the cities or fighting our military.


this incident and many like these committed by these vile terrorists are shocking.
ISIS is not a sunni organisation .. they are Murtads...and khawarij

settling sectarian scores here is pointless and sad.
ISIS, Al Qaeda, Al Shahab, TTP etc are an offshoot of their own religion in their own right who have as much in common to Sunnis as much as they have with any ordinary human

 

[he-man]

Lol iron deficiency.

I am a man of science u see

Lol iron deficiency.

speaking of iron def,,,i think one of our leading heroes too was suffering from it

 

[INDIC]

@KingMamba Kali is the scary incarnation of Goddess Shakti to inflict fear among the demons, she killed demons, took their heads as garland and drink their blood to show the wrath she inflicted on demons. Killing of demons was noble cause for the betterment of human race who was being butchered by Demons. This is according to Hindu mythology.

 

[B+ Dracula]

IAM SALAFI.......BY AQEEDAHZ

There is no sectarianism here my friend and you know exactly what I mean. I don't want to start off with Aqeedah issues here.
Yes there are peaceful "Salafis", but there is no denying that the vast majority of folks who are committing appalling atrocities follow a certain Aqeedah.

RIGHT SAYING...

Actually, what they believe in is that they follow Islam pure and unadulterated, so these people if you label them as Salafis etc. they will call you mad (Right before they kill you), so in essence, they do not actually follow a Salafi "Aqeedah" now do they? Because people who do call themselves Salafis would not associate with these people, Salafi etc. it just has become a thing that Muslims use to divert the blame and focus away from themselves by saying "NO NO IT WASN"T ME, IT WAS SOMEONE FOLLOWING ANOTHER SECT" which I find quite pathetic honestly.

YEP.....

 

[illusion8]

You know my friend the only way they can solve this problem is by force and propagation by other Muslim groups against them. Sadly we have long gone past embracing them, I'd go as far as to say that point left us back in the early 90's, with the conflicts going on then.

I guess force is the only way out, because they are probably beating you in everything else. Check out their online supporters and ISIS's periodical magazines. Plus the number of recruits and the billions they are able to pool in.

 

[Mosamania]

I guess force is the only way out, because they are probably beating you in everything else. Check out their online supporters and ISIS's periodical magazines. Plus the number of recruits and the billions they are able to pool in.

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It is like my childhood's religion teacher's dreams coming true.

 

[illusion8]

It is like my childhood's religion teacher's dreams coming true.

More like a nightmare.

 

[Mosamania]

More like a nightmare.

No I am pretty sure they dreamed about this their whole lives, anyways, just wait for a bit, let them all gather in one place and then blow them all away to smithereens.

 

[B+ Dracula]

I find the best way to handle this situation, is to distance oneself from any religion what so ever, why should I be called any religion at all, each and every single person has a set of beliefs that differentiates him/her from every person on earth, to seek that this entire group follows a certain "sect" is foolish, or to think to oneself that themselves follow a certain "sect or religion" is even more foolish. And anyone that think that all humans can be forced into thinking a certain "right" way is only insulting humanity's sentience, and that person have committed a crime, as all crimes in the end are about insulting the sentience of others, our most prized evolutionary trait.

WORTH WRITTEN

ISIS is not a sunni organisation .. they are Murtads...and khawarij

Moreover
- They wont follow Old School of thought among Muslims & that licensed them to generate likely FATWAS
- Radicalisation keeps them in Momentum (without going bed of Aqeedah)
- Prefer to Works in Political Chaos like time of Hazrat Ali (R.A), Saladin, Qutub ud din Aibak ...or Present Syria/Iraq/Afghanistan (where there is no authority groups working in its own way)
- No pensive education to Young Recruits

 

[illusion8]

No I am pretty sure they dreamed about this their whole lives, anyways, just wait for a bit, let them all gather in one place and then blow them all away to smithereens.

Nightmare for the rest of us,

and, I doubt it's as easy as that. There is not one active insurgency group that has been quelled satisfactorily in the recent past, even though superpowers and big armies have been at them for years.