Sukmawati Sukarnoputri, daughter of former Indonesia president, converts to Hinduism from Islam

[Menthol]

I don't care about what her religion is.

Water is the same to all people whatever their religion is.

Good people are always good people, whatever their religion is.


Religion is a gift from God, as a tool for us to return home in heaven.

The saddest person actually is the one who is unable to use the tool to save himself and his family and friends.

 

[Goritoes]

There is no compulsion in religion, but also there is no way Allah will forgive Shirk... I hope she comes back to her sense before its too late cause what comes next will nothing to be joke around.

 

[Indos]

There is no compulsion in religion, but also there is no way Allah will forgive Shirk... I hope she comes back to her sense before its too late cause what comes next will nothing to be joke around.

One of Soekarno daughter has just passed away this year, Rachmawati Soekarnoputri (70 years old), she is still Muslim until she passed away, May Allah forgive her sin and accept her good deed. She wanted to be buried next to her mother, Fatmawati. Fatmawati is buried in special place only for national heroes.

 

[not_two]

There is no compulsion in religion, but also there is no way Allah will forgive Shirk... I hope she comes back to her sense before its too late cause what comes next will nothing to be joke around.

Quran.com

Ibrahim
Abraham

Verse 4

﷽
14:4
ﮖ ﮗ ﮘ ﮙ ﮚ ﮛ ﮜ ﮝ ﮞ ﮟ ﮠ ﮡ ﮢ ﮣ ﮤ ﮥ ﮦ ﮧ ﮨ ﮩ ﮪ ﮫ
We did not send any messenger but (speaking) in the language of his people, so that he might clearly convey the message to them. So, Allah lets go astray whom He wills and lets find guidance whom He wills. And He is the Mighty, the Wise.

— Mufti Taqi Usmani
According to quraan it's Allah who let's go astray whom he wills and let's find guidance whom he wills ...
It is none of others buisness to inerfere in Allah's will ..

 

[Indos]

Quran.com

Ibrahim
Abraham

Verse 4

﷽
14:4
ﮖ ﮗ ﮘ ﮙ ﮚ ﮛ ﮜ ﮝ ﮞ ﮟ ﮠ ﮡ ﮢ ﮣ ﮤ ﮥ ﮦ ﮧ ﮨ ﮩ ﮪ ﮫ
We did not send any messenger but (speaking) in the language of his people, so that he might clearly convey the message to them. So, Allah lets go astray whom He wills and lets find guidance whom He wills. And He is the Mighty, the Wise.

— Mufti Taqi Usmani
According to quraan it's Allah who let's go astray whom he wills and let's find guidance whom he wills ...
It is none of others buisness to inerfere in Allah's will ..

Yup, only the one that has good heart, not arrogance, honest, etc that will be guided. This is why it is important to be honest, having good heart, etc. ALLAH is just, He knows which ones that should be guided and which ones that will go astray.

While being a Muslim will not secure forgiveness as well, Muslim should prove that they really worship God though their action and heart and not making great sins.

 

[not_two]

Yup, only the one that has good heart, not arrogance, honest, etc that will be guided. This is why it is important to be honest, having good heart, etc. ALLAH is just, He knows which ones that should be guided and which ones that will go astray.

While being a Muslim will not secure forgiveness as well, Muslim should prove that they really worship God though their action and heart and not making great sins.

Those names you mentioned are sanskrit hindu names ..It's astonishing that Indonesia still keep those names to children ..In India you won't find these kind of traditional names even with Hindus ..What may be the reasons to this phenomenon ?

 

[Indos]

Those names you mentioned are sanskrit hindu names ..It's astonishing that Indonesia still keep those names to children ..In India you won't find these kind of traditional names even with Hindus ..What may be the reasons to this phenomenon ?

That name is regarded as Indonesian names since long time ago since Indonesia was Hindu nation before and use Sangkrits, some Sangkrits words are inserted into our national language that is base on Malay language

From Finance Minister, Sri Mulyani Indrawati

She is now in Italia, may be talking about how to finance KF21/IFX program with our foreign minister....

Song writer and singer, Isyana Sarasvati

Even until Model, Hana Saraswati

Despite so they are all Muslim

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Even we use Garuda as our country symbol

PANCASILA (another Sangkrits words), Our State Ideology

 

[Reichsmarschall]

Sorry for her loss.

 

[Village life]

Converting to Hindu from Islam her own decision , but can a Hindu explain what Hindu religion is ?

 

[Novus ordu seclorum]

PANCASILA (another Sangkrits words), Our State Ideology

I like the five Indonesian Sila.

 

[not_two]

Converting to Hindu from Islam her down decision , but can a Hindu explain what Hindu religion is ?

The air within a bubble bursts it mixes with atmosphere ..But atmosphere doesn't have any boundaries ..If you think everything should have boundaries then nature doesn't work like that ..If you think in religion needs one to worship a God or Gods then Hinduism is not a religion ..It's just a way of living and understanding nature and energies acting on it physically or spiritually ..Having said that there are bubbles inside Hinduism but you can't put Hinduism inside a bubble..

 

[Indos]

I like the five Indonesian Sila.

Yup, it is so ridiculous seeing Indonesian Islamist extremists wanting to change Pancasila since all of the Sila (Principle) is very Islamic. As I see this kind of people only see on the surface/cosmetic words while they forget the essence of Islam.

We dont need to name Pancasila with some Arabic definition as it is not necessary, as long as the essence is Islamic and not against Islam values and principle, we should accept it. Democracy is also supported by Quran verse As-syura as the principle of democracy is consultancy with the people, not authoritarian ruling.

Our founding fathers have agreed to run this country based on Democracy since 1945, before we even get the real independence in 1949, our 1945 Independence proclamation is basically the start of the war against Dutch and British.

 

[Novus ordu seclorum]

The air within a bubble bursts it mixes with atmosphere ..But atmosphere doesn't have any boundaries ..If you think everything should have boundaries then nature doesn't work like that ..If you think if religion needs one to worship a God or Gods then Hinduism is not a religion ..It's just a way of living and understanding nature and energies acting on it physically or spiritually ..

Made no sense. Every word has a purpose and definition. If it doesn't then why have a word for it. Reminds me of the fable of the two tailors who spun a cloth for the King so fine and exquisite that only the most discerning could see it, however, nobody could see where the air ended and the cloth started, and no one wanted to admit it. You are not the only one who could not explain Hinduism. I asked it from others and got the same run around. That is because when we take anything as god it logically becomes meaningless, like giving everyone an Olympic gold medal will make the Olympics meaningless.

 

[Brainsucker]

It is legal, when Ahok married Native Indonesian, Puput, no body protest it. Puput was Muslim before. She is police officer who guard previous Ahok wife ( now divorce)

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In other hand Christian also converted to Islam.

Dian Sastrowardoyo, formerly Christian Javanese, also converted into Islam and marriage Muslim businessmen

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Yes, thats because we embrace bhineka tunggal ika

 

[Awan68]

To do this at the age of 69 when she probably is nearing her meeting with Allah, to remain a muslim for most of one's life and loose it all near the finish line is probably the apex of misfortune but i guess Allah filters out the hypocrite's before the final calling.