Sukmawati Sukarnoputri, daughter of former Indonesia president, converts to Hinduism from Islam

[Imran Khan]

she is free human its her choice .

 

[V. Makarov]

She earned herself a place in eternal hell at the age of 69. God will forgive all sins, but not Shirk. And she decided to go for a religion that has the most number of gods in the world. AT THE AGE OF 69! She must have done something so terrible in her life that Allah made her mushrik.

I hope some family member, or friend can knock some sense into her.

 

[not_two]

Made no sense. Every word has a purpose and definition. If it doesn't have a boundary then why have a word for it. Reminds me of the fable of the two tailors who spun a cloth for the King so fine and exquisite that only the most discerning could see it. Nobody could see where the air ended and the cloth started and no one wanted to admit it. You are not the only one who could not explain Hinduism. I have asked it from others and got the same run around. That is because when we take anything as god it logically becomes meaningless, like giving everyone an Olympic gold medal will make the Olympics meaningless.

If a word must have boundary then the central word in any religion "God" should have boundaries .If this universe has boundaries then the question comes what's there outside the boundary ..pots have boundaries but clay doesn't .. ornaments have boundaries but gold doesn't..Still if you remove clay from the pot and gold from the ornaments there remains nothing ..In a dream you may see a whole world but it's all in your mind .. Similarly when you remove consciousness there will be nothing in your world ..World appears in consciousness like pot appears in clay but ultimately it's through and through clay only .. Similarly everything is nothing but sat chit ananda(existence conscious bliss) or Sachidananda hindu definition of God ..Now you may get some understanding of concept of God in Hinduism and why they worship different forms of God or everything/nothing..

 

[Novus ordu seclorum]

If a word must have boundary then the central word in any religion "God" should have boundaries .If this universe has boundaries then the question comes what's there outside the boundary ..pots have boundaries but clay doesn't .. ornaments have boundaries but gold doesn't..Still if you remove clay from the pot and gold from the ornaments there remains nothing ..In a dream you may see a whole world but it's all in your mind .. Similarly when you remove consciousness there will be nothing in your world ..World appears in consciousness like pot appears in clay but ultimately it's through and through clay only .. Similarly everything is nothing but sat chit ananda(existence conscious bliss) or Sachidananda hindu definition of God ..Now you may get some understanding of concept of God in Hinduism and why they worship different forms of God or everything/nothing..

Every word has a boundary in the sense of a definition. I can define and explain God. I can define and explain Islam. But you are not able to define Hinduism, yet there is a word for it. I think you are trying to say Hinduism is intangible, but so are the words Islam, God, consciousness, faith, belief, love, trust, yet they are all definable.

 

[not_two]

Every word has a boundary in the sense of a definition. I can define and explain God. I can define and explain Islam. But you are not able to define Hinduism, yet there is a word for it. I think you are trying to say Hinduism is intangible, but so are the words Islam, God, consciousness, faith, belief, love, trust, yet they are all definable.

If you want definition than dictionary is good for you ..If you want to understand than I have tried it for you ..And I like you to explain the God and Islam ..just for knowledge and understanding..

 

[Maira La]

The air within a bubble bursts it mixes with atmosphere ..But atmosphere doesn't have any boundaries ..If you think everything should have boundaries then nature doesn't work like that ..If you think in religion needs one to worship a God or Gods then Hinduism is not a religion ..It's just a way of living and understanding nature and energies acting on it physically or spiritually ..Having said that there are bubbles inside Hinduism but you can't put Hinduism inside a bubble..

Makes no sense.

Every word has a boundary in the sense of a definition. I can define and explain God. I can define and explain Islam. But you are not able to define Hinduism, yet there is a word for it. I think you are trying to say Hinduism is intangible, but so are the words Islam, God, consciousness, faith, belief, love, trust, yet they are all definable.

Since Hinduism has no definition or boundary, she was already a Hindu when she was Muslim.. there was no need to convert.

 

[not_two]

Makes no sense.


Since Hinduism has no definition or boundary, she was already a Hindu when she was Muslim.. there was no need to convert.

Yes and no ..yes she is hindu as it has no boundaries and she needed to convert because there is boundary in Islam..

 

[FreeFromFear]

Every word has a boundary in the sense of a definition. I can define and explain God. I can define and explain Islam. But you are not able to define Hinduism, yet there is a word for it. I think you are trying to say Hinduism is intangible, but so are the words Islam, God, consciousness, faith, belief, love, trust, yet they are all definable.

Only limited things can be defined.
Infinity cannot be defined. At best, it can be 'explained'. Only to a certain extent.
Either refrain from defining God. Or say that 'God is not infinite'.
Same applies to anything you attempt to define (including religion).
Hinduism is infinite and can only be explained to a certain extent.
You obviously are not considering Hinduism 'religion' same as Hinduism 'word'. And, I hope, you consider Islam that same way.

 

[mig25]

Scores of people can lose faith in one religion and choose another. We are nobody to judge, discuss or predict what is good for them.

 

[aryadravida]

Converting to Hindu from Islam her down decision , but can a Hindu explain what Hindu religion is ?

There is no religion called hinduism...hinduism as you know it is an amalgamation of different philosophies and beliefs(including animistic religions)....anyone can follow or not follow anything according to their inclinations.
Highly philosophical books like upanishads are considered holy in hinduism...at the same time cock and bull stories like puranas are also considered holy in hinduism...it is very difficult for a person who is following an organised religion like islam to understand the so called hinduism.
Having said that the religion that most people in India follow these days is religion propagated in puranas and smritis(religion that developed between 5th and 10th century AD)...including the verses that are chanted in most rituals.
Therefore one can say there is a bit of uniformity that has emerged as far as beliefs and customs are concerned in hinduism across india.

 

[jamahir]

She should have instead spoken of reviving the PKI ( Communist Party of Indonesia ).

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Daughter at the back is pretty.

Even until Model, Hana Saraswati

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Hana is pretty.

If this universe has boundaries then the question comes what's there outside the boundary

Why do you say the universe has boundaries ? How do you know this ?

 

[not_two]

Again makes no sense. Just nonsense you people say to make your Caste system look better. Only a drug addict or mental or born hindu will buy this crap.

That shows how you treat religious minorities in your society..Hope everyone around you is not like you for humanity sake..

 

[Indos]

Those names you mentioned are sanskrit hindu names ..It's astonishing that Indonesia still keep those names to children ..In India you won't find these kind of traditional names even with Hindus ..What may be the reasons to this phenomenon ?

Soeharto Grand sons also use Sangkrits name

1. Darma Mangkuluhur (Tommy Soeharto son) with his mother

2. Aditya Trihatmojo ( son of Bambang Trihatmojo)

His father and mother

Bambang Trihatmojo

 

[not_two]

She should have instead spoken of reviving the PKI ( Communist Party of Indonesia ).



Daughter at the back is pretty.



Hana is pretty.



Why do you say the universe has boundaries ? How do you know this ?

That's reply for someone who argued that every word should be limited within boundaries .. What's your take does it have boundary ?

Soeharto Grand sons also use Sangkrits name

1. Darma Mangkuluhur (Tommy Soeharto son) with his mother

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2. Aditya Trihatmojo ( son of Bambang Trihatmojo)

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His father and mother

Bambang Trihatmojo
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Good to see culture and religion keeping their place in Indonesian society ..

 

[Rollno21]

Converting to Hindu from Islam her down decision , but can a Hindu explain what Hindu religion is ?

In simple terms ,God is one ,wise men call it by different names. Makes sense right.

For every child father is a hero and that's true and cute, but when the child thinks his father is the only hero, you can imagine how he will do in life.