Sukhoi PAK-FA / FGFA: Updates,News & Discussions
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Corporation "Tactical Missiles" is developing for future aviation complex tactical aircraft (PAK FA fighter of the fifth generation), the newest weapon system, "Interfax-AVN," CEO Boris Obnosov.
"Today, all the complexes, which are set out in the tactical-technical task for the PAK FA, are in various stages of refinement. For a gun entered the state tests, somewhere we even completed the state tests and are currently working on perfecting and preparing the first production batches," - said B. Obnosov Air Show at Le Bourget.
He noted that the program to create weapons consistent with the work by myself fighter. "Just as work on the PAK FA, create weapons for him is divided into two phases - first phase to 2014 and the second - from 2015," - said the CEO.
He explained that each stage involves the further development of weapons systems. For example, to launch "air-air" is - gradual increase in range, improved accuracy, the improvement of all those characteristics that determine the effectiveness of weapons.
"All areas will be improved, as it is written in the complex target program of aircraft weapons," - said the CEO.
B. Obnosov reported that regularly hosts meetings where the developer of a fighter - the company "Dry" and the developers of weapon systems and compare their current long-term policy. "The problem is: when the PAK FA will go into a series for him to be ready weapon," - said the CEO.
According to him, these processes are synchronized. We can not allow a fighter was not ready weapons for development which requires 2-3 years.
The first flight of the PAK FA was held on 29 January 2010 in Komsomolsk-on-Amur. Compared with previous generations of fighter PAK-FA has several unique features, combining the functions of an attack aircraft and fighter. Fifth-generation aircraft is equipped with brand new avionics, which integrates the function of "e-pilot" and promising radar with a phased antenna array. This greatly reduces the load on the pilot and allows you to concentrate on the implementation of tactical tasks.
On-board equipment of the new aircraft can exchange data in real time as a land-based control systems, and within the aviation group. The use of composite materials and innovative technology, aerodynamic design aircraft, measures to reduce the visibility of the engine provides unprecedented low level of radar, optical and infrared signature. This can significantly increase the combat effectiveness in both air and ground targets at any time of day, and adverse weather conditions.
In the inner compartment can be located as a fighter missiles air-to-air and air-to-surface. In a class "air - air" is a big rocket and short-range and medium-range missile development Design Bureau "Vympel".
In air-to-surface in the inner compartment can be placed anti-ship missiles, rockets modular general-purpose bombs and guided the caliber of 250 kg. In addition, the aircraft can carry guided missiles and bombs of various caliber destination up to 1,500 kg on external sling.
All managed air attack, planned to equip the aircraft, developed by the corporation "Tactical Missiles."
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"Today, all the complexes, which are set out in the tactical-technical task for the PAK FA, are in various stages of refinement. For a gun entered the state tests, somewhere we even completed the state tests and are currently working on perfecting and preparing the first production batches," - said B. Obnosov Air Show at Le Bourget.
He noted that the program to create weapons consistent with the work by myself fighter. "Just as work on the PAK FA, create weapons for him is divided into two phases - first phase to 2014 and the second - from 2015," - said the CEO.
He explained that each stage involves the further development of weapons systems. For example, to launch "air-air" is - gradual increase in range, improved accuracy, the improvement of all those characteristics that determine the effectiveness of weapons.
"All areas will be improved, as it is written in the complex target program of aircraft weapons," - said the CEO.
B. Obnosov reported that regularly hosts meetings where the developer of a fighter - the company "Dry" and the developers of weapon systems and compare their current long-term policy. "The problem is: when the PAK FA will go into a series for him to be ready weapon," - said the CEO.
According to him, these processes are synchronized. We can not allow a fighter was not ready weapons for development which requires 2-3 years.
The first flight of the PAK FA was held on 29 January 2010 in Komsomolsk-on-Amur. Compared with previous generations of fighter PAK-FA has several unique features, combining the functions of an attack aircraft and fighter. Fifth-generation aircraft is equipped with brand new avionics, which integrates the function of "e-pilot" and promising radar with a phased antenna array. This greatly reduces the load on the pilot and allows you to concentrate on the implementation of tactical tasks.
On-board equipment of the new aircraft can exchange data in real time as a land-based control systems, and within the aviation group. The use of composite materials and innovative technology, aerodynamic design aircraft, measures to reduce the visibility of the engine provides unprecedented low level of radar, optical and infrared signature. This can significantly increase the combat effectiveness in both air and ground targets at any time of day, and adverse weather conditions.
In the inner compartment can be located as a fighter missiles air-to-air and air-to-surface. In a class "air - air" is a big rocket and short-range and medium-range missile development Design Bureau "Vympel".
In air-to-surface in the inner compartment can be placed anti-ship missiles, rockets modular general-purpose bombs and guided the caliber of 250 kg. In addition, the aircraft can carry guided missiles and bombs of various caliber destination up to 1,500 kg on external sling.
All managed air attack, planned to equip the aircraft, developed by the corporation "Tactical Missiles."
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NoIthe chairman of HAL has said that FGFA will be significantly different from PAK FA so it could probably look something like this.
I dont think there will be major changes in air frame . .
It will be twine seater version of PAK FA . . . same like MKI . . Which is twine seat version of su 30 . . . Changes from Russian jet will be in form of internal systems . . Like EW , Cockpit , weapons . . . But air frame will not have major changes . .
The Indian FGFA is significantly different from the Russian aircraft because a second pilot means the addition of another dimension, development of wings and control surfaces,” said Ashok Baweja, chairman of the Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd (HAL), which is developing the aircraft along with Russia’s Sukhoi design bureau.
Sukhoi/HAL FGFA a Indian Stealth Fighter | Defence Aviation
So brother no major Changes to airframe or fusselage just reshaping of wings and control surfaces.
Although that article refers to an AL-37 engine AFAIK it's AL-31 engine so not sure of it's authenticity but i'm merely speculating there's little else any of us could do.
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Russia seeks to sell stealth jets to Korea
07-20-2011 19:30
Russia has decided to enter Korea’s advanced jet acquisition project, which would be the biggest arms-procurement deal ever in the country, a defense official said Wednesday.
“Russian aircraft manufacturer Sukhoi expressed its intent to compete in the fighter jet procurement project early this year,” Col. Wi Jong-seong of the Defense Acquisition Program Administration (DAPA) said.
He said Sukhoi’s T-50 PAK-FA will vie with the F-15SE Silent Eagle from Boeing, the F-35 Lightning II f4rom Lockheed Martin and the Eurofighter Typhoon from the European Aeronautic Defense and Space Company (EADS).
The T-50 PAK-FA and the F-35 Lightning II are fifth generation stealth fighters, while the remaining two are fourth generation jets with limited stealth capabilities.
Earlier in the day, DAPA spokesman Son Hyeong-yeong announced that his agency has eased the criteria to allow more companies to bid for the FX-III project, under which Korea will purchase 60 high-end fighters with a budget of 8.29 trillion won ($7.86 billion).
“We will set up strategies that will allow for the transfer of core technology and that will encourage competition,” he said.
Insiders, however, say both the T-50 PAK-FA and Eurofighter Typhoon have a little chance in winning the bid as Korea’s alliance with the United States will be a decisive factor in the race.
They say EADS offered a better deal in Korea’s last jet acquisition project in 2008 than its American competitor Boeing, but lost the bid due largely to political decisions.
Boeing and Lockheed Martin, two of the largest defense contractors in the United States, say they have had a long industrial partnership with Korea and their fighters offer high compatibility with its existing weapons systems.
EADS recently announced that it will offer Korea the chance to assemble and partly manufacture Eurofighter Typhoons in Korea in an apparent bid not to lose the FX-race again.
“The first 10 deliveries will be assembled in Europe, while the next 24 will be built with components manufactured in Korea,” Erwin Obermeier, a senior advisor of export projects at EADS said, adding that the remainder will be assembled here.
He also downplayed concerns over compatibility, saying all Korean fighters and Eurofighters are built to be inter-operable in the NATO environment.
Korea has purchased 60 F-15s from Boeing, which won both the FX-I and II projects in 2002 and 2008
Meanwhile, DAPA announced that Korea will spend 1.84 trillion won to acquire 36 attack helicopters from overseas. Col. Tan Myeong-hoon of DAPA said the AH-1W SuperCobra by Bell and AH-64D Block III from Boeing, will compete with the EC-665 Tiger from Eurocopter of France and the T-129 from Turkey.
The winners of the FX-III and the attack helicopter bids will be announced in October next year.
07-20-2011 19:30
Russia seeks to sell stealth jets to Korea
By Lee Tae-hoonRussia has decided to enter Korea’s advanced jet acquisition project, which would be the biggest arms-procurement deal ever in the country, a defense official said Wednesday.
“Russian aircraft manufacturer Sukhoi expressed its intent to compete in the fighter jet procurement project early this year,” Col. Wi Jong-seong of the Defense Acquisition Program Administration (DAPA) said.
He said Sukhoi’s T-50 PAK-FA will vie with the F-15SE Silent Eagle from Boeing, the F-35 Lightning II f4rom Lockheed Martin and the Eurofighter Typhoon from the European Aeronautic Defense and Space Company (EADS).
The T-50 PAK-FA and the F-35 Lightning II are fifth generation stealth fighters, while the remaining two are fourth generation jets with limited stealth capabilities.
Earlier in the day, DAPA spokesman Son Hyeong-yeong announced that his agency has eased the criteria to allow more companies to bid for the FX-III project, under which Korea will purchase 60 high-end fighters with a budget of 8.29 trillion won ($7.86 billion).
“We will set up strategies that will allow for the transfer of core technology and that will encourage competition,” he said.
Insiders, however, say both the T-50 PAK-FA and Eurofighter Typhoon have a little chance in winning the bid as Korea’s alliance with the United States will be a decisive factor in the race.
They say EADS offered a better deal in Korea’s last jet acquisition project in 2008 than its American competitor Boeing, but lost the bid due largely to political decisions.
Boeing and Lockheed Martin, two of the largest defense contractors in the United States, say they have had a long industrial partnership with Korea and their fighters offer high compatibility with its existing weapons systems.
EADS recently announced that it will offer Korea the chance to assemble and partly manufacture Eurofighter Typhoons in Korea in an apparent bid not to lose the FX-race again.
“The first 10 deliveries will be assembled in Europe, while the next 24 will be built with components manufactured in Korea,” Erwin Obermeier, a senior advisor of export projects at EADS said, adding that the remainder will be assembled here.
He also downplayed concerns over compatibility, saying all Korean fighters and Eurofighters are built to be inter-operable in the NATO environment.
Korea has purchased 60 F-15s from Boeing, which won both the FX-I and II projects in 2002 and 2008
Meanwhile, DAPA announced that Korea will spend 1.84 trillion won to acquire 36 attack helicopters from overseas. Col. Tan Myeong-hoon of DAPA said the AH-1W SuperCobra by Bell and AH-64D Block III from Boeing, will compete with the EC-665 Tiger from Eurocopter of France and the T-129 from Turkey.
The winners of the FX-III and the attack helicopter bids will be announced in October next year.
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PAK-FA is wasting there time with Korea... it will be F-35 which will brag the deal.. Korea will come under US wrath if they do something out of the circle
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The Russians are walking into a trap here. All the testing and analysis will be done & Korea will read the script provided by Lockheed about how the F-35 came on top of the PAK-FA on almost every count & blah blah......
So it will be nothing more than a advertising campaign for F-35
So it will be nothing more than a advertising campaign for F-35
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I disagree, the Korean are not satisfied with the capability of F-35, they have been looking at option in building their own, I think it was a smart move by Russia to recommend the fighter to Korea even if it is a long shot.
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the Koreans are gonna choose something American and nothing in the world can change that.
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Sukhoi: Development of PAK FA is going on without any failures
Russia and India are continuing their cooperation on development and construction of fifth-generation fighter PAK FA (Prospective Airborne Complex of Frontline Aviation), RIA Novosti reports. It has been reported by the official representative of Sukhoi Company.
It has been reported earlier by Russian mass-media that the negotiations regarding this project are at the end of one’s tether. But they did not specify who is responsible for this.
"The work (on development of fifth-generation fighter) are being carried out at full speed", - the aviation company’s representative noted.
The contract on development of Indian PAK FA version’s (designated as FGFA - Fifth Generation Fighter Aircraft) draft engineering design has been signed on December 21st 2010. Russian partners have pledged to invest $295 million in the project. Indian air forces are planning to acquire 250-300 FGFAs with a total value of $25 billion.
Russian prototype of PAK FA (Т-50), designed by Sukhoi design bureau, have already performed its maiden flight in January 2010. The start of T-50 deliveries is scheduled on 2016. It is expected that the joint Russia-India fifth generation fighter will be created in several years after the start of T-50’s acquisition by Russian air forces.
It is also intended that the joint Russia-India fighter will become an export version of T-50.
Sukhoi: Development of PAK FA is going on without any failures - News - Russian Aviation - RUAVIATION.COM
Russia and India are continuing their cooperation on development and construction of fifth-generation fighter PAK FA (Prospective Airborne Complex of Frontline Aviation), RIA Novosti reports. It has been reported by the official representative of Sukhoi Company.
It has been reported earlier by Russian mass-media that the negotiations regarding this project are at the end of one’s tether. But they did not specify who is responsible for this.
"The work (on development of fifth-generation fighter) are being carried out at full speed", - the aviation company’s representative noted.
The contract on development of Indian PAK FA version’s (designated as FGFA - Fifth Generation Fighter Aircraft) draft engineering design has been signed on December 21st 2010. Russian partners have pledged to invest $295 million in the project. Indian air forces are planning to acquire 250-300 FGFAs with a total value of $25 billion.
Russian prototype of PAK FA (Т-50), designed by Sukhoi design bureau, have already performed its maiden flight in January 2010. The start of T-50 deliveries is scheduled on 2016. It is expected that the joint Russia-India fifth generation fighter will be created in several years after the start of T-50’s acquisition by Russian air forces.
It is also intended that the joint Russia-India fighter will become an export version of T-50.
Sukhoi: Development of PAK FA is going on without any failures - News - Russian Aviation - RUAVIATION.COM
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from what i have read - the t 50 will be further developed into the fgfa just like the su 30 was developed into su 30mki.... Going by this logic india will probably start getting the pak fa while the fgfa is developed( 2015-16) and then mordenize the pak fa into the fgfa when the development of fgfa is complete - just like we got the su 30ks and su 30mks while the development of su 30mki was going on and then when it was complete we mordenized the k's and mk's to mki standard
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Pak Fa is a single seater, while FGFA will be a twin seater and IAF doctrine wants the latter config for the prime fighters, same reason why we went with twin seat Su 30 versions and not took the single seat Su 35 that the Russians offered.
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