Suicide truck bomb kills about 100 in Iraq, mostly Iranian pilgrims

[f1000n]

I know this, What I am asking is why is Turkey bad for Iraq?



Everyone in Iraq thought that IS was a revolution even the Yazidis and Iraqi Christians because they were sick of the persecution under your sectarian Maliki regime.


What is wrong with Turkey using their forces to fight IS?

I just explained that to you, read above in the edited post.

 

[EgyptianAmerican]

I just explained that to you, read above in the edited post.

They trained a "Militia" so what? Iranian Militias don't answer to the Iraqi chain of command. Where is your outrage? Why are Sunni Iraqis getting no support and left to fend for themselves against ISIS while Iranian Militias not under your control get all the weapons and tanks?


Then when Sunni Tribes surrender you ask why? because you left them to the dogs with no support or weapons.

 

[f1000n]

They trained a "Militia" so what? Iranian Militias don't answer to the Iraqi chain of command. Where is your outrage?

Iraqi militia's that is given that all its members are local Iraqis, do answers to Iraqi chain of command under the PMU. Turkey trained a force where they appointed Atheel al Nujaifi as their leader. Former governor of Nineveh, he worked against Iraq for years. Back in early 2015 the US congress was proposing bills threatening to bypass Baghdad to deal with KRG and look for a Sunni authority which would the be created by Turkey and i'm sure Saudi would've stepped in given that they announced support for this in June 2014 telling the US to drop the Iraqi army, this basically meant the breakup of the country.

Why are Sunni Iraqis getting no support and left to fend for themselves against ISIS while Iranian Militias not under your control get all the weapons and tanks?

Then when Sunni Tribes surrender you ask why? because you left them to the dogs with no support or weapons.

I see you make attempts without even doing your research first

Haditha, do you know where that town is? In Anbar, it never fell to IS as local tribal fighters defended it with gov supplies, eventually gov forces broke the siege.

Hashd al Asha'iri, the tribal fighting groups in Anbar, armed and financed by the gov.

I don't blame them the gov for not trusting those tribes, their loyalty is very volatile. In 2003 their loyatly turned to Al Qaeda in Iraq, then when they experienced that the US has strong firepower and offered them money they quickly turned alliances. In 2013 when IS grew nearby in Syria they welcomed IS against the gov, then in 2015/2016 they once again changed alliance in favor of the Iraqi gov as they noticed the Iraqi forces were defeating IS.

What is your point with this, you don't know what you're talking about.

 

[Max]

there is problem with followers of Ibne Tamiyah and Ibne Abdul Wahhab not Sunni Islam..

 

[EgyptianAmerican]

Iraqi militia's that is given that all its members are local Iraqis, do answers to Iraqi chain of command under the PMU. Turkey trained a force where they appointed Atheel al Nujaifi as their leader. Former governor of Nineveh, he worked against Iraq for years. Back in early 2015 the US congress was proposing bills threatening to bypass Baghdad to deal with KRG and look for a Sunni authority which would the be created by Turkey and i'm sure Saudi would've stepped in given that they announced support for this in June 2014 telling the US to drop the Iraqi army, this basically meant the breakup of the country.


I see you make attempts without even doing your research first

Haditha, do you know where that town is? In Anbar, it never fell to IS as local tribal fighters defended it with gov supplies, eventually gov forces broke the siege.

Hashd al Asha'iri, the tribal fighting groups in Anbar, armed and financed by the gov.

I don't blame them the gov for not trusting those tribes, their loyalty is very volatile. In 2003 their loyatly turned to Al Qaeda in Iraq, then when they experienced that the US has strong firepower and offered them money they quickly turned alliances. In 2013 when IS grew nearby in Syria they welcomed IS against the gov, then in 2015/2016 they once again changed alliance in favor of the Iraqi gov as they noticed the Iraqi forces were defeating IS.

What is your point with this, you don't know what you're talking about.

You haven't answered why Turkey is bad for this operation other then some stupid obscure group.

 

[f1000n]

You haven't answered why Turkey is bad for this operation other then some stupid obscure group.

Learn about Turkey's policy in Iraq and you will know. doesn't matter much to me whether you believe it or not, don't believe it then big deal.

 

[saiyan0321]

Three pages of rubbish. Time to get it back on the track.

I am two days late but never the less

May Allah grant them a place in heaven. I am from the country that has experienced such incidents and they shake the soul when one hears about them.

The Muslim world is in chaos and quite frankly we have only ourselves to blame. These terrorists have decided to wage war on their own brethren and they kill them mercilessly. They don't care if he is sunni or shia or anybody. They simply kill in their barbaric ways. This fire spreads in the middle east and requires complete cooperation of all Muslim nations to root this evil out and when I say complete I mean complete.

Once again. I am very sorry to hear this news.

 

[EgyptianAmerican]

Three pages of rubbish. Time to get it back on the track.

I am two days late but never the less

May Allah grant them a place in heaven. I am from the country that has experienced such incidents and they shake the soul when one hears about them.

The Muslim world is in chaos and quite frankly we have only ourselves to blame. These terrorists have decided to wage war on their own brethren and they kill them mercilessly. They don't care if he is sunni or shia or anybody. They simply kill in their barbaric ways. This fire spreads in the middle east and requires complete cooperation of all Muslim nations to root this evil out and when I say complete I mean complete.

Once again. I am very sorry to hear this news.

Nah, Iraq won't let anyone fight ISIS except themselves and Iranian Militias.


Same situation with Syria, they all are hanging on to their pathetic non-existent pride.

 

[AmirPatriot]

Anyway I have no respect for slaves of Iranian Mullah, get your freedom first and have some dignity then come here to preach about honor and victories.

You're talking about freedom?

Freedom to drive and vote is great, you know

 

[Falcon29]

Three pages of rubbish. Time to get it back on the track.

I am two days late but never the less

May Allah grant them a place in heaven. I am from the country that has experienced such incidents and they shake the soul when one hears about them.

The Muslim world is in chaos and quite frankly we have only ourselves to blame. These terrorists have decided to wage war on their own brethren and they kill them mercilessly. They don't care if he is sunni or shia or anybody. They simply kill in their barbaric ways. This fire spreads in the middle east and requires complete cooperation of all Muslim nations to root this evil out and when I say complete I mean complete.

Once again. I am very sorry to hear this news.

The more we project that the Muslim world is in chaos, the more people will accept that notion as a reality. Muslim world is transitioning to become developed, it will take time to resemble anything of that in the West. With technology and internet, it will be accelerated though, at least the internet will provoke a curious and thoughtful culture, the tangible results will come along later. Not in our generation.

The problem is in the Middle East, it's compromised of multiple ethnic groups(Jewish, Iranian, Turkish, Arab, Kurd), one of which is supported by the West, while another two are competing for influence. One is more science based nation, and tries pushing an a more progressive ideology that tries determining who was right in Islam's history, using logic, and not belief. Problem with that, logic can also have unintended consequence of defeating religion. And it is hard to win people who are more faith/belief based. Hence Saudi's are winning over that crowd, and the use of religion for immediate influence, does indeed secure these two camps short term/long term interest, but it destroys nations in the process, or creates serious loopholes which can not be fixed.

That along with the approaches taken by the players in the region, and some foreign players, in form of sanctions, arming opposition, etc....There is no clean routes taken, and this ignites serious consequences too. So the non-Middle Eastern Muslim world should be on path of developing, the Middle East, however, has no escape from this situation and the reality of Western order in the ME for sake of Israel, also contributes significantly. The Middle East needs wise and mature people, but that will not come anytime soon due to authoritarian nature of leaderships. The people are adapted to that, so they need an authoritarian based leadership, that is good, which is very hard to find and even if found, will not be allowed to have it easy.

 

[EgyptianAmerican]

The more we project that the Muslim world is in chaos, the more people will accept that notion as a reality. Muslim world is transitioning to become developed, it will take time to resemble anything of that in the West. With technology and internet, it will be accelerated though, at least the internet will provoke a curious and thoughtful culture, the tangible results will come along later. Not in our generation.

The problem is in the Middle East, it's compromised of multiple ethnic groups(Jewish, Iranian, Turkish, Arab, Kurd), one of which is supported by the West, while another two are competing for influence. One is more science based nation, and tries pushing an a more progressive ideology that tries determining who was right in Islam's history, using logic, and not belief. Problem with that, logic can also have unintended consequence of defeating religion. And it is hard to win people who are more faith/belief based. Hence Saudi's are winning over that crowd, and the use of religion for immediate influence, does indeed secure these two camps short term/long term interest, but it destroys nations in the process, or creates serious loopholes which can not be fixed.

That along with the approaches taken by the players in the region, and some foreign players, in form of sanctions, arming opposition, etc....There is no clean routes taken, and this ignites serious consequences too. So the non-Middle Eastern Muslim world should be on path of developing, the Middle East, however, has no escape from this situation and the reality of Western order in the ME for sake of Israel, also contributes significantly. The Middle East needs wise and mature people, but that will not come anytime soon due to authoritarian nature of leaderships. The people are adapted to that, so they need an authoritarian based leadership, that is good, which is very hard to find and even if found, will not be allowed to have it easy.

So much wrong in this... I could correct you but I am tired of correcting your bull.

But then again, what can you expect from a Hypocrite.

 

[SQ8]

Sectarian posts will receive extreme punishments. Keep your hatred within yourselves.

 

[TheTravla]

What do you expect from the followers of the 'Three'. They themselves treated the religion like a political football. Espousing Pan-Arabism under the garment of Islam, which at its core, is what Sunni Islam is. The chaos we see today lies firmly at their doorstep. Sunni Islam for a millennia was able to hide its nefarious ideology. Today, living a globalised and well connected world, that veil has been truly uncovered and the world can witness what Sunni Islam truly is. A malignant cancer where no form of chemotherapy, radiotherapy and surgery will help abate this disease.

Pakistan is a fine example. The rot is just too deep.

there is problem with followers of Ibne Tamiyah and Ibne Abdul Wahhab not Sunni Islam..

Wahhabism is a branch of Sunni Islam. Had this been a 'Wahhabi' problem they wouldn't have been able to draw vast support from the muslim world.

 

[Max]

What do you expect from the followers of the 'Three'. They themselves treated the religion like a political football. Espousing Pan-Arabism under the garment of Islam, which at its core, is what Sunni Islam is. The chaos we see today lies firmly at their doorstep. Sunni Islam for a millennia was able to hide its nefarious ideology. Today, living a globalised and well connected world, that veil has been truly uncovered and the world can witness what Sunni Islam truly is. A malignant cancer where no form of chemotherapy, radiotherapy and surgery will help abate this disease.

Pakistan is a fine example. The rot is just too deep.



Wahhabism is a branch of Sunni Islam. Had this been a 'Wahhabi' problem they wouldn't have been able to draw vast support from the muslim world.

followers of Four are great people who spread Islam all over world unlike follower of [disputed, some have 12, some have 6] who spend whole their lives conspiring against Sunnis with cooperation of west, if Sunni islam was about pan Arabism then its majority wont be non arab, we would be worshiping Mullah with black Turban like follower of walayat e fiqh. Rest, what Pakistan have to do with your blabbering? It was not sectarian war, it was our mistake, we trained them give them weapons to fight against Russia, their was no militancy before..

yeah they get so much support that 200 million sunni majority Pakistan in 2016 may not have few hunded militants, how pathetic of those 200 million Sunnis that they are not giving wide.. Oh sorry i mean vast support, may be they are shia how pathetic that there is no indonesian sunni militants, they are pathetic people, why dont they blow for wahhabis? what about Bengali, bharti 360 million Muslims, shame on their existance that they dont blow themselves for wahhabis to support them widly.. Shame on central asians as well..

If your Mullah from wilayat fiqh can get all shia behind them for fight, what let you belive that salafis have less numbers then you? They sure can draw double the number since you follower of [20th century waliyat] are not more then 10% of Islam...