Suggestions for Pakistan’s Bigger AWACS Aircraft: PAF Need

[jagjitnatt]

Hi
and this is where you are wrong, apart from your instinctive nature to bash Chinese products your claims are baseless, you failed to comprehend that even if Chinese had acquired Phalcon, they still would have produced their own versions, French helicopters, croatles, SU-27 becoming J-11. Chinese want self reliance in advance technology as much as possible. China has developed a lot of cutting edge technologies which is beyond Israels reach without American help. and you are forgetting that was in 1990's this is 2010, Chinese have made a tremendous headway in science and technology since then. So to comment on KJ-2000 without having any credible knowledge is a little too immature

I don't know what Chinese technology you are talking about. But the last time I checked everything China achieved was with the help of Russians or Americans. I am not saying the same is not true for India. I know its the same case with India too.

Going by your statement, US and Russians must be fools that even after creating tens of AWACS, their equipment is junk according to you and China in their first attempt just dwarfed everything else.

Height of stupidity.

 

[jagjitnatt]

IAI Phalcon 707

This should give you insight of what Phalcon is. Read it first.

 

[Peregrine]

I don't know what Chinese technology you are talking about. But the last time I checked everything China achieved was with the help of Russians or Americans. I am not saying the same is not true for India. I know its the same case with India too.

Going by your statement, US and Russians must be fools that even after creating tens of AWACS, their equipment is junk according to you and China in their first attempt just dwarfed everything else.

Height of stupidity.

Hi
just because you couldn't answer me appropriately so there is no need to get personal, i didn't even mention anything that degraded Russian or American technology you might wanna read with open eyes, are you getting a bit to hyper by the authenticity of my statement that you are coming up with these absurd remarks, i wasn't even thinking about American and Russian tech, i don't know how you assumed that from my comments.
Height of Trolling!

 

[blain2]

IAI Phalcon 707

This should give you insight of what Phalcon is. Read it first.

This is the oldest link on the web. What is new? Where is the real competitive analysis that shows that Phalcon is the best in the world and is the AEW platform of choice? Show me one article that has any specific information on the various systems in the market reading which one could surmise that technically, Phalcon indeed is the best in the world.

 

[WAQAS119]

IAI Phalcon 707

This should give you insight of what Phalcon is. Read it first.

and this will give an insight to u too,


Radar Expert unveils the development of Chinese KJ-2000 AWACS|China Military Power Mashup

 

[jagjitnatt]

Hi
just because you couldn't answer me appropriately so there is no need to get personal, i didn't even mention anything that degraded Russian or American technology you might wanna read with open eyes, are you getting a bit to hyper by the authenticity of my statement that you are coming up with these absurd remarks, i wasn't even thinking about American and Russian tech, i don't know how you assumed that from my comments.
Height of Trolling!

Please answer to me how China's first AWACS became the best in the world. Saying that would be an insult to the existing leaders in radar technology.
Forget it. Its out of your scope.

This is the oldest link on the web. What is new? Where is the real competitive analysis that shows that Phalcon is the best in the world and the AEW platform of choice?

Search for the Best awacs on Google and let me know what comes up.

and this will give u an insight to u too,


Radar Expert unveils the development of Chinese KJ-2000 AWACS|China Military Power Mashup

That is a chinese website quoting just what the makers of AWACS said.
Hell, then Ab Cruncher should be the best product on earth cause TeleBrands said so.
Not a single person on earth would criticize his own product.
Period.

 

[blain2]

Search for the Best awacs on Google and let me know what comes up.

I am not the one obsessed with this need of yours to show off. What I had to say, I have. Make what you will of it. Many of the progressive air forces in Europe/APAC are not even bothering looking at the system you have bought. That should tell you something.

 

[WAQAS119]

Not a single person on earth would criticize his own product.
Period.

so does u

 

[Imran Khan]

when i look many threads i beleve indians are highjeck the forum. why the hell every thread each post indian members bring there flame and start thread toll??????? shamfull mans but world is not india but india is part of world stop mess with evey thing which not related to india.

 

[WAQAS119]

That is a chinese website quoting just what the makers of AWACS said.

And what about the link provided by u????

 

[Imran Khan]

when i look many threads i beleve indians are highjeck the forum. why the hell every thread each post indian members bring there flame and start thread toll??????? shamfull mans but world is not india but india is part of world stop mess with evey thing which not related to india.

and damn PAF no need suggestions from fan boys and keyboard teens for what they use i think its another shame that PAF asking from us . what we are nothing even never fly a single fighter in our lifes.

 

[jagjitnatt]

I am not the one obsessed with this need of yours to show off. What I had to say, I have. Make what you will of it. Many of the progressive air forces in Europe/APAC are not even bothering looking at the system you have bought. That should tell you something.

NATO and its close allies use AWACS from USA. E-3 is their current AWACS and it was built in the 70s. That was the most advanced at its time but now Phalcon is better than E-3.

As it is, NATO doesn't need the most powerful radar in their AWACS. There AWACS is more focuses on airborne control of missiles and linking of aircraft rather than detection. They have nothing to defend against since all of their neighbors are allies. But unfortunately same is not the case with India or Israel.

 

[Peregrine]

Please answer to me how China's first AWACS became the best in the world. Saying that would be an insult to the existing leaders in radar technology.
Forget it. Its out of your scope.

Hi
Like i said open your eyes who said Chinese AWAC's are best? we don't even know yet what they are capable of, but doesn't mean just because you don't have any details on them so they are technologically inferior to Israeli AWACS like you claimed. and this thread is not for AWAC'S discussion its for AWACS platform. i wonder why am i telling some one who only has the agenda to troll.

 

[WAQAS119]

when i look many threads i beleve indians are highjeck the forum. why the hell every thread each post indian members bring there flame and start thread toll??????? shamfull mans .

very true, if u see all the threads, the person who starts trolling is jagjitnat and then all Pakistanis responds to him and then whole thread become a war zone. He intentionally tries to spoil the threads on Pakistani section. Moderators should take some action.

 

[qsaark]

NATO and its close allies use AWACS from USA. E-3 is their current AWACS and it was built in the 70s. That was the most advanced at its time but now Phalcon is better than E-3.

As it is, NATO doesn't need the most powerful radar in their AWACS. There AWACS is more focuses on airborne control of missiles and linking of aircraft rather than detection. They have nothing to defend against since all of their neighbors are allies. But unfortunately same is not the case with India or Israel.

As if the E-3 was never improved over the thirty or so long years of service. Following should be enough for today's read:

NATO E-3 AWACS Improvements (The NATO AWACS Mid-Term Modernization Program "Global Solution")

E-3 Sentry (AWACS) (http://www.fas.org/programs/ssp/man/uswpns/air/special/e3.html)

E-3 Sentry (E-3 Sentry / E-3A, E-3C, E-3D, E-3F)

NATO's Nine-Way Enhanced AWACS The surveillance aircraft has served faithfully for 20 years. Now Boeing is preparing for it for two more decades (Avionics Magazine :: NATO's Nine-Way Enhanced AWACS)

Boeing Awarded Long-Lead Contract for NATO AWACS Upgrade (Boeing Awarded Long-Lead Contract for NATO AWACS Upgrade. - PR Newswire | Encyclopedia.com)