Submarine Sale will not Break Indo-Pakistan Military Balance: Chinese Media

[Transhumanist]

coz if it was so why pakistan went for france and germany initially....

Pakistan already operates a French design, the Agosta 90B:

It's likely that due to their familiarity and existing partnership with France, that they would opt to seek newer submarines from them.

Perhaps the negotiation or construction time-table for new subs was too long, or they were too costly, or that China's performed better in certain situations such as deep-waters - signalling a shift in Pakistan's doctrine from coastal defense to deep-water attack, but something lessened Pakistan's interest.

Diplomatic pressure from India, due to its Scorpene building/procurement, could have played a role as well:

But given Pakistan's history of working with France on submarines, it's not surprising that they would again approach the French for an Agosta 90B replacement.

is it really high quality??? i mean comparable to france n german tech?

While China's nuclear submarines are making progress, but still lag Western designs, their AIP and SSK/SSCs are deadly quiet. This is acknowledged by the US Navy. They compare favorably to modern Russian designs such as Lada class:

They are still noted as being behind Japan's Sōryū-class:

But they are damn good and shouldn't be underestimated or put down.

 

[indianBong]

But they are damn good and shouldn't be underestimated or put down

thank you sir.... only a fool will underestimate such capability....

 

[The Ultranationalist]

BEIJING: Defending China's move to sell eight submarines to Pakistan, the Chinese official media today said the deal will not break the Indo-Pak military balance.
"...It will take eight to 10 years for Pakistan to incorporate the eight submarines from China into its combat capacity," an article in state-run Global Times said, the first comment in the Chinese media on the deal.
"It will be extremely hard to break the military balance of India and Pakistan with the latest acquisition. Pakistan is actually trying to prevent the gap between its naval strength and India's from widening," it said.
"The $4-5 billion deal (with Pakistan) is reportedly China's largest ever arms deal and can be a milestone in China's arms export. Some consider the deal as a new benchmark for China's arms trade that grows with its increasing military strength," it said.
Dismissing the concerns that the sale will alter the military balance in South Asia, the article said the Indian Navy has two aircraft carriers in service and is building a new indigenous one. It has 15 submarines, almost twice that of Pakistan.
"More importantly, India's domestically developed nuclear-powered submarine, INS Arihant, has undergone several sea trials and will soon enter service. New Delhi is also planning at least six more nuclear-powered submarines," it said.
"Besides, the construction of submarines will be carried out in China and Pakistan simultaneously with four built in Karachi, which means China may transfer the submarine construction technology to Pakistan. But this is a proper pattern of cooperation that is accepted internationally," it said.
Pakistan opted to buy Chinese subs after it failed to acquire new-type conventional submarines from France and Germany due to factors like price and technology transfer, it said.
"It finally picked China's conventional submarines out of the burning need to protect its maritime security and because of the high quality but reasonable price of Chinese products," the article said without disclosing the details.
Strangely the article written by Qian Feng, councillor of the Chinese Association for South Asian Studies, quotes Pakistan Federal Minister for Defence Production Rana Tanveer Hussain's announcement about the submarine deal with China, which Beijing or its official media is yet to officially confirm.

thats correct, after all they are made in china maal

 

[Ind4Ever]

Ya ya Bramos and Indian frigates sales to Vietnam and US Japan Australia Vietnam India Alliance and patrol in SCS countries will also won't affect the balance

 

[Muhammad Omar]

thats correct, after all they are made in china maal

The Same China Maal came from China to Karachi by surpassing Indian navy when India was busy in doing Yoga on yoga day..... Ask your Navy which Failed to detect that...

unlike your Subs which have blast inside and then drowned while it was docked

 

[Indika]

Where was the balance and when did it break. pakistans only savior is terrorists and nukes in order.

 

[Areesh]

Where was the balance and when did it break. pakistans only savior is terrorists and nukes in order.

And India's only savior are those peanut size brains in their skulls which makes them feel supa puwa.

 

[Room]

Lol on one side China is claiming a balance which they are claiming and on other side Pakistan is crying to US about conventional balance.
Lol

 

[Muhammad Omar]

Where was the balance and when did it break. pakistans only savior is terrorists and nukes in order.

So whom Pakistani Army is killing in Operation Zarb e Azb?? Indian Terrorists??

 

[The Ultranationalist]

The Same China Maal came from China to Karachi by surpassing Indian navy when India was busy in doing Yoga on yoga day..... Ask your Navy which Failed to detect that...

unlike your Subs which have blast inside and then drowned while it was docked

you believe so? lol. by the way the submarine which blasted was 26 years old and the defence ministry under congis did not sanctioned funds to replace its aged batteries which caused explosion. consider yourself lucku if your china maal lasts even 10 years.

 

[Nan Yang]

More Details on the Yuan Class Submarine



The Yuan is large submarine comparable in size and tonnage to the Kilo and Soryo and is for deep water, anti-ship platform. It was designed to break through the 1st island chain.
With the AIP, the Yuan submarine can reach 1500km in one breath .

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