Su-30MKI vs Su-35S

[MiG-21]

This is not actually a typical VS thread because both these fighters are operated by friendly countries. So the probability of these 2 fighting against each other is Zero. This is just to see how these 2 compares with each other and also, gives an idea of what the Super-Sukhoi-30MKI might derive out of the Su-35S platform.

Su-35S(formerly Su-35BM) is the most recent and the most advanced of the Su-27 family. It has a all-metal structure, but unlike other Su-27 family fighters, it's comprised of titanium composites. As a result its airframe life is higher than the others. Its avionics is one of the best, and its radar is the best in the world in range. How does it compare with its cousin the successful Su-30MKI family comprising of Su-30MKI, Su-30MKM and Su-30MKA?

Below are the similarities between Su-30MKI and Su-35S:
12 Hard Points
8000kgs external ordinance
G-limit 9
Same Air-Air and Air-Ground weapons package
Has Thrust Vectoring
Can house external jammers and all varieties of pods.
Has inflight re-fueling
etc.. etc..


Differences:
Su-30MKI-
Maximum internal fuel - 9,640kgs
Max Range(without mid-air refueling) - 3000kms
Max ceiling - 17.3km
Max Speed - Mach 1.9
Canards - Yes
Crew - 2
Max Afterburner Thrust - 12500kgf, Emergency Thrust - 12800kgf
External Fuel Tanks - No
Composites - Not in significant quantity.
Empty Weight - unknown. Estimated to be around 18400kgs.
Airframe life - 3,000hrs or 15 years(at 200 hours flight time each year)
Internal Jammer - No
RCS - unofficial estimate 11.5m2
Airbrake - Yes
Supercruise- No


Su-35S-
Maximum internal fuel - 11,500kgs
Max Range(without mid-air refueling, without external fuel tanks) - 3600kms
Max ceiling - 18km
Max Speed - Mach 2.25
Canards - No (since radar isn't heavy)
Crew - 1
Max Afterburner Thrust - 14500kgf(gives a massive boost to TWR compared to Su-30MKI)
External Fuel Tanks - Yes (can carry 2 drop tanks of 1400kgs fuel in each of them)
Composites - Yes. Extensive use of Titanium Alloys.
Empty Weight - Unknown. Estimated to be around 18800kgs.
Airframe life - 6,000hrs or 30 years(at 200 hours flight time each year)
Internal Jammer - Yes
RCS - unofficial estimate between 1-3m2
Airbrake - No. Powerful modified rudders act as Airbrakes.
Supercruise - Yes

Radar-
This deserves a separate mention. Because this is where the difference is at its max.
Su-30MKI has a N-011M BARS Radar
Transmitter peak power - 5kw
Transmitter average power - 1.2kw
Can Track- 15 Targets
Can Simultaneously Engage - 4 Targets
Max Detection for 5 sqm RCS - 140 km(Upgraded Radar with upgraded transmitter power, if any in service, its range is unknown.)

Su-35S has N-035 IRBIS-E. The most powerful Fighter Plane mounted X Band radar in the world. Specs are as follows.
Transmitter peak power - 20kw
Transmitter average power - 5kw
Can Track - 30 Targets
Can Simultaneously Engage - 8 Targets
Max Detection for 5 sqm RCS - 426 km
Max Detection for 3 sqm RCS - 375 km
Max Detection for 1 sqm RCS - 285 km
Max Detection for 0.01 sqm RCS - 90 km


DATA FROM OFFICIAL SUKHOI and NIIP WEBSITES. Not Wikipedia!

 

[kaykay]

well nice analysis.......agreed that mki is inferior in many fields.....though after upgradations(as that is planned) it would be very close to su-35...but again even the current mki is more than enough to dominate the subcontinent.....

 

[Ammyy]

But still every thing about Super Sukhoi -30 is unclear.

 

[UKBengali]

Please can BD get a couple of squadrons of Su-35S.

 

[dollarman]

How many squadrons of 30MKIs do we currently have in operation? And how many of su-35s?

 

[kaykay]

Please can BD get a couple of squadrons of Su-35S.

sure!!...but you have to pay more or less but about $5 billion for that....

 

[Skull and Bones]

We have to get our hands of that fuking Irbis-E AESA radar.

 

[kaykay]

How many squadrons of 30MKIs do we currently have in operation? And how many of su-35s?

we have around 7-8 mki squadrons as for now and a total 13-14 or even 15 squadrons should be there in next 5 years....and we don't operate su-35

 

[UKBengali]

sure!!...but you have to pay more or less but about $5 billion for that....

I think it is around 90-100 million dollar per plane so should be half that.

Even if Russia wants to sell this plane to BD, it will be too expensive for the current BD military budget.

But it is one awesome plane and IMO it is the best 4th generation multi-role plane out there.

 

[veekysingh]

china is getting 48 of them , , too many thread runing on pdf about that news.

I think it is around 90-100 million dollar per plane so should be half that.

Even if Russia wants to sell this plane to BD, it will be too expensive for the current BD military budget.

But it is one awesome plane and IMO it is the best 4th generation multi-role plane out there.

its 4++ gen.

 

[帅的一匹]

china is getting 48 of them , , too many thread runing on pdf about that news.


its 4++ gen.

SU35 overtakes Su30MKI in every respect.

 

[Ammyy]

SU35 overtakes Su30MKI in every respect.

SU35 is brand new plane so nothing surprising about it.

 

[帅的一匹]

We are not counting on Su35 to prevail MKI, we are interested in the radar and F117s engine.

 

[kaykay]

But still every thing about Super Sukhoi -30 is unclear.

AFAIK all new cockpit and AESA radar is to be integrated in upgradations....and they might work on RCS reduction too...though this is just speculated.

 

[rashtriya.rifles]

AFAIK all new cockpit and AESA radar is to be integrated in upgradations....and they might work on RCS reduction too...though this is just speculated.

all those things without an engine upgrade will mean jack sh!t