SU-30 Family

[nightcrawler]

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[HK-47]

^nice.How stealthy are these planes?

 

[Guest]

^nice.How stealthy are these planes?

most of their RCS >=15 squre meters;
J11B roumerd to be 5
su35 roumered to be 3

 

[Arsalan]

^nice.How stealthy are these planes?

they are not stealth,,
rather they have an extra large RCS,,
well look at there pics they relly are a mosnter of a plane!!

regards!

 

[Thomas]

actually aren't these pics of a Su-34?

 

[wangrong]

actually aren't these pics of a Su-34?

 

[Tempest II]

most of their RCS >=15 squre meters;
J11B roumerd to be 5
su35 roumered to be 3

below is the only published data I have see it is from this book: Air and Space Borne Radar Systems an Introduction

As I have always expected, we underestimate Eastern achievements - note the RCS for Mig-29 was 3sqm in 1989. Most forums still talk of 5sqm even to this day.

Su-35 is said to be 1sm MAXIMUM!
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/russia/su-35bm-design.htm

The modified Su-35 also has a treated cockpit canopy which reflects radar waves, concealing the high RCS contribution from metal components in the cockpit. Beyond these changes, radar absorbent material of greater durability allied with the structural changes, mean that it is expected that the RCS of the aircraft will be equivalent of a F-16, that is, around 1m (Reduced RCS (b/w F-16 (about 1m^2).

http://www.aviationlive.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1909&sid=f434c63228afaddd9fd5f1cb2de4d0e5

Stealth
As mentioned earlier, Sukhoi learned that a large RCS does not help the plane, as such, to the refinement of the lines, Sukhoi allied other Stealth measures:
... ...These measures mean a RCS between 0.7 and 1 m2. ... ..

 

[beckham]

Its a repost of my own post, hope you don't mind !

"Under the Hood"















Su-27SKM loadout (Sukhoi).


Su-30 loadout (Sukhoi).

 

[beckham]

Russian Airforce Sukoi-30MKK and Mig-29 MK2






flankers and flares

 

[beckham]

Smart Skin concept for Su-30MKI

FORCE - A Complete News Magazine on National Security - Defence Magazine
The pre-planned product improvement roadmap for the Su-30MKI continues to make steady progress, with two Indian Air Force (IAF) Su-30MKIs, delivered in mid-2002, being dispatched to United Aircraft Corp (UAC) of Russia¡'s Irkutsk-based facility (IRKUT Corp) where both airframes will be strengthened and refurbished, and their navigation-and-attack system will be upgraded in order to arm the aircraft with the BrahMos supersonic air-launched cruise missile for both maritime strike and ground attack. Thus, while all structural and electrical work will be undertaken at Irkutsk, the Tikhomirov-NIIP will upgrade the Su-30MKI¡'s existing NO-11M Bars passive phased-array radar¡'s performance and operating modes by incorporating a radar target extraction LRU. Once all this has been done, the two upgraded Su-30MKIs will be flown back to India to begin the weapons qualification test-firings, which will be jointly conducted by BrahMos Aerospace and the IAF.
And come 2014, UAC, together with Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd (HAL) will begin upgrading the first 100 IAF Su-30MKIs by modifying their airframes to make them stealthy, converting the existing Bars into an active phased-array radar, enhancing the situational awareness by incorporating active electronically scanned transmit/receive arrays on the aircraft's wings, and beefing up the defensive-aids suite by installing a combined radar/laser warning system and a missile approach warning system. Tikhomirov-NIIP had by last November begun laboratory-level tests of a ¡Bars¡, which was fitted with an AESA array made up of X-band transmit/receive modules built by Istok JSC.

Since then, another two Bars radars have been modified as part of the R&D phase, which will last until 2012, and will be followed by flight qualification a year later. Incidentally, Tikhomirov-NIIP has also developed the Irbis-E passive phased-array radar for the Su-35BM and will soon begin work on modifying the Irbis-E into an active phased-array radar, which will go on board the Fifth Generation Fighter Aircraft (FGFA) that will be co-developed by UAC and HAL. In addition, both UAC and Tikhomirov-NIIP have come together to develop the smart skin concept under which an AESA array's transmit/receive modules can be placed anywhere on board the Su-30MKI to generate the relevant radiation field required for achieving more than 180-degree field-of-view.

 

[MZUBAIR]

Difference between SU30 MKI vs Su-30MKK/MK2

SU-30 MKI

Crew: 2
Max takeoff weight: 38,800 kg (85,600 lb)
Powerplant: 2× Lyulka AL-31FP turbofans with thrust vectoring, 131 kN (29,449 lbf) each
Maximum speed: Mach 2.35
Radar: N011M Bars (Panther) (PESA)
Role: Multirole aircraft

Su-30MKK/MK2

Crew: 2
Max takeoff weight: 34,500 kg
Powerplant: 2× Lyulka AL-31F turbofans, 123 kN (27,600 lbf)[9] each
Maximum Speed : Never exceed speed: Mach 2.5
Radar: 1 × NIIP N001VEP fire-control radar (PESA)
Role All-weather, long-range strike fighter

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Technologywise both aircrafts are quite same.....Airframe, radar and engine have similarities. Avionics are different coz both have different roles for their countries ((China) Su-30MKK/MK2, (India) Su-30 MKI).

 

[MZUBAIR]

Man is looking so small infront of the bird.

 

[beckham]

Man is looking so small infront of the bird.

The bird is a big brutal beauty !

 

[Myth_buster_1]

Its a repost of my own post, hope you don't mind !

"Under the Hood"















Su-27SKM loadout (Sukhoi).



Su-30 loadout (Sukhoi).

ausairpower is not a reliable source. Its based on one man's work who is on his own mission to convinces his government that F-22 is the only answer. He has falsely claimed non american platforms to be way inferior to the russians.... Dont for get... India will be shortly selecting SH for its MRCA tender... SH will be IAF top of the line plane until PAKFA arrives..

 

[Join]

This really is a rocking plane... A cool front line fighter.... Nice to have them.... India is building and purchasing more and more of those