Study: Germans see Islam as a threat

[T-123456]

Who is this us?

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[Chinese-Dragon]

We should have more of these studies.

Maybe it will eventually sink into Muslims that media control is the most important asset in the world.

If you control the media, you control people's minds. If you don't, your enemies will.

There is only so much that media control can achieve.

You think that "Zionists" control the world media, so why is it that Israel is one of the most negatively-viewed countries in the entire world? They are ranked right at the bottom.

Also, you can't change the fact that these terrorist attacks ARE happening all over the world. In fact, the West is not even the biggest victim, it is Asia that is the biggest victim.

According to the Global Terror Index, South Asia is the region of the world that is the most badly hit. Then the Middle East and Africa, then Russia, then Southeast Asia.

Hell, even China gets hit with more of these attacks than the West does. The West gets hit the least by these extremists, isn't that ironic.

 

[iam not greek]

I will be honest and i too feel Islam is a threat to world peace. In India itself all the terrorist activity are carried out by a Muslim group IM. Muslims generally are very narrow minded except in few countries. what is even scarier is that they are in majority in the world today and if they take over the control of the world then its not late when human life will come back to stone age.

 

[JayAtl]

???Muslim under 18 can visit a mosque to pray, but law bans force people under 18 years old enter church or mosque, you should tell children and get their agreement

see highlighted. Just Fake it and hope people who are eager to be at bent knees like those who thank you fall for it.

The imam’s sermon at Friday Prayer must run no longer than a half-hour, the rules say. Prayer in public areas outside the mosque is forbidden. Residents of Khotan are not allowed to worship at mosques outside of town.

One rule on the wall says that government workers and nonreligious people may not be “forced” to attend services at the mosque — a generous wording of a law that prohibits government workers and Communist Party members from going at all. Wary of Islam, China Tightens a Vise of Rules
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/19/world/asia/19xinjiang.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

Chinese Muslims banned from fasting in Ramadan
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The repression of Tibetan Buddhists and Uighur Muslims continues. The Chinese government continued to implement measures that strictly regulated religious activity in the Xinjiang Uighur Autonomous Region.

Only religious groups belonging to one of the five state-sanctioned "patriotic religious associations" are permitted to register and to hold worship services. Religious groups, such as Protestant groups unaffiliated with a patriotic religious association, or Catholics professing loyalty to the Vatican, are not permitted to register.

 

[Vinod2070]

There is only so much that media control can achieve.

You think that "Zionists" control the world media, so why is it that Israel is one of the most negatively-viewed countries in the entire world? They are ranked right at the bottom.

Also, you can't change the fact that these terrorist attacks ARE happening all over the world. In fact, the West is not even the biggest victim, it is Asia that is the biggest victim.

According to the Global Terror Index, South Asia is the region of the world that is the most badly hit. Then the Middle East and Africa, then Russia, then Southeast Asia.

Hell, even China gets hit with more of these attacks than the West does. The West gets hit the least by these extremists, isn't that ironic.

It is not about the quest for truth for many.

It is about simple, nay simplistic answers that avoid any responsibility to correct things within.

 

[AHAM BRIHMASMI]

Some of the best people I 've met are Muslims and sadly some of the worst are also Muslims but religion is not what makes them good or bad.

A.P.J. Kalam--------------------------------OBL.

As per his daily activities and thinking, APJ is not a muslim, he is only born muslim.

There is a direct proportion between being true muslim and being fanatic.

 

[Desert Fox]

This is how the rest of the world sees it. All references to Muslim should be read with "some" before the word "Muslim".

1) The western world gives equal opportunities to a bright life for Muslims and even asylum as in the case of the Boston bombers. Yet Muslims can bomb their own adopted country.

2) Pakistanis are treated like low class laborers by the Arabs and will never accept a Pakistani as an Arab. Yet we see Pakistanis claiming their identity to be Arab. On the other hand many western countries give them opportunities much better than the Arab world but they are all Kaffir....

3) How many non Muslim terrorists will take their god's name before aiming a missile at a passenger plane? or press the device to detonate a bomb?

4) If the phrase "terrorists are not muslim" is true why are the non terrorist Muslims silent or only whimper. If indeed the number of Non terrorist muslims outnumber the terrorist kind, why aren't they loud enough? Is it because some were in their mind, they agree with atleast somethings the terror outfit believes in?

5) Muslims hate countries that give equal rights to Muslims, Love countries that do not give equal rights to Muslims ( Example: Pakistanis love for Arabs and Chine. Hate for the western world).



I can go on but i'll stop here. The above examples are something that non-muslims will find illogical, almost on the border of crazy and dangerous.

You are spot on with your post my friend. I have said the same thing to many delusional countrymen of mine on this very forum and in return i have been labeled a indian and God knows what else.


These people have a identity crises. They try to be more Arab than the Arabs, despite that Arabs treat their camels better than they treat these people. Arabs make fun of them and have funny names for them when they see how desperate these fools are to associate themselves as Arabs.

Arabs only use these fools in the name of "Ummah" when they have a motive, but once their motive has been achieved they dispose of these fools and treat them worse than dogs.

If it was up to me, i would ship all of these Arab boot lickers to the GCC so they can experience first hand how their Arab "brothers" treat their kind, but i fear even then these delusional indoctrinated fools will persist to licking Arab boots.

America and the West in general has made a huge mistake by allowing illiterate asylum seekers from African and middle Eastern countries into their nations. They have allowed the trash of those African and ME nations to enter their countries bringing with them the same bigoted, hypocritical, and extremist subhuman mindset prevalent in their countries of origin.

All blame for this goes on the Liberal Leftist Marxist scums and their support for open borders.

See this post in my thread and in this post in particular watch the video to understand who is actually supporting this open border policy in Europe in order to destroy Western Civilization:

http://www.defence.pk/forums/europe...onalism-rise-europe-russia-3.html#post3513231

 

[mahatir]

Media influence.

They have a large turkish population where most of them are muslims. I don't think they see them or others as a threat even though this study says otherwise.

Once they get to know people who are muslims then usually all the suspicion, fear fades away....

Media influence.

They have a large turkish population where most of them are muslims. I don't think they see them or others as a threat even though this study says otherwise.

Once they get to know people who are muslims then usually all the suspicion, fear fades away....

Well most of the Turks living in germany are actually " Kurdish " and you can see how terrorism spread in Turkey as a result of the fascist nationalist Kurdish movement PKK .

The kurds are a Tribal nation , they lived on looting caravans and fighting as mercenaries for other empires due to the fact they lived under a tribal structure in an isolated mountain region in southern eastern Turkey . Ataturk tried to civilize them after the Turkish war of independence , a significant number adopted modern way of life and integrated within the Turkish society , but those living in southern eastern Turkey near Iraq border still adopt the barbarian tribal culture they inherited from their ancestors.

To be specific , Kurds in Turkey are pretty much similar to the Bediouns .

Bs,Germans are just afraid of muslim extremist.
All the terorrist attacks made people carefull and anti islam.
Who can blame them?
The biggest terorrist acts were by muslim extremist.
There are over 6 milion muslims in Germany,so they are afraid of all of them?
They just fear muslims extremists and lets be fair mosly arab extremists.

I agree Arabs are a source of trouble in France , but in Germany its because of the backward tribal kurds , especially the kurdish gangsters .

There are not many Arabs in Germany , they barely cross the 100 thousand , most of Germany's problem is with the Turkish community which is actually the turkish kurds to be specific .

 

[mahatir]

There is anyway a problem with some Muslims overall regardless of their ethnic background , this comes from the Wahabi/salafi ideology that encourages some muslims to impose sharia law regardless where they live and never respect the laws not made by " allah " .

The absence of a strong secular foundation in the Muslim world has lead to this misery we live in today with clerks brainwashing kids with hatred and intolerance speech .

They blame everything on the Jews and live on conspiracy theory , simply this problem will not be solved until the Muslims start to realize that they lost and its time for them to reform their way of thinking and life .

By the way Sharia law does not suit the 21st centurty we have to live examples that failed miserably Afghanistan and Somalia , I do not think anyone with a half brain cell would want to live in such places.

 

[xuxu1457]

see highlighted. Just Fake it and hope people who are eager to be at bent knees like those who thank you fall for it.



Chinese Muslims banned from fasting in Ramadan
Chinese Muslims banned from fasting in Ramadan | MuslimVillage.com




The repression of Tibetan Buddhists and Uighur Muslims continues. The Chinese government continued to implement measures that strictly regulated religious activity in the Xinjiang Uighur Autonomous Region.

Only religious groups belonging to one of the five state-sanctioned "patriotic religious associations" are permitted to register and to hold worship services. Religious groups, such as Protestant groups unaffiliated with a patriotic religious association, or Catholics professing loyalty to the Vatican, are not permitted to register.

Funny thing, I live in China, sounds you know China more than I;
I went to church when I was a child at 5 years old, and read bible to my mother, grandmother and others at church after I went to school, since they are not well read&#65288;about 10 old women are Christian in my village&#65292; they can't read fluent&#65289;.So some times mother will call me for help, promised me delicious food, but if I don't want to sometimes she will not force me. General thinking for East Asian, religion is a very private thing&#65292; when one is a child, he doesn't have the ability to know which he want, so based on <Law of the People's Republic of China on the Protection of Minors>, no one or agency can force child enter any religion&#65292;you can attract children but can't force
Article 9 The parents or other guardians of minors shall respect the minors' right to receive education, must ensure to the minors of school age the compulsory education as provided by relevant regulations, and shall not make minors receiving compulsory education at school discontinue their schooling.
Article 11 The parents or other guardians of minors may not permit or force the minors to marry, nor may they undertake an engagement for the minors.
Based on <Regulations on Religious Affairs>
Article 39, A citizen shall have freedom of religious belief. Any organization and individual shall neither force a citizen to believe or not to believe in a religion, nor discriminate both a citizen with religious belief and a citizen without religious belief.

&#12288;&#12288;There shall be mutual respect between citizens with religious belief and those without religious belief, and among citizens of different religions and different religious sects.

 

[Developereo]

There is only so much that media control can achieve.

You think that "Zionists" control the world media, so why is it that Israel is one of the most negatively-viewed countries in the entire world? They are ranked right at the bottom.

Because, when you look at the FACTS of Israel, it is a colonial cancer. The mere fact that Israel receives any sympathy at all is testament to the triumph of the Zionists' media campaign.

If any other group of religious fanatics invaded a foreign land, kicked out the locals, colluded with colonial masters and claimed that land because their God had so ordained, they would be castigated. Yet Israel has managed to portray itself as the victim in all this.

Also, you can't change the fact that these terrorist attacks ARE happening all over the world. In fact, the West is not even the biggest victim, it is Asia that is the biggest victim.

According to the Global Terror Index, South Asia is the region of the world that is the most badly hit. Then the Middle East and Africa, then Russia, then Southeast Asia.

Hell, even China gets hit with more of these attacks than the West does. The West gets hit the least by these extremists, isn't that ironic.

The topic is about the integration of local Muslim community in Western countries, not global terrorism.

As for terrorism, that is also a debatable subject. Terrorism has become a convenient label for many governments to repress their citizens and deny them rights. Most of these regions of terrorism deny access to independent media to ascertain the facts.

Also, in the case of Christian or Jewish minorities being persecuted, the dominant West makes sure to highlight and address their concerns, even getting them freedom (South Sudan, East Timor, etc.). India pokes its nose into Sri Lankan affairs at the behest of its Hindu Tamil constituency. But, when Muslim minorities are persecuted -- when Burmese military joins hands with Buddhist monks to lead rampaging mobs against Muslims, or when Gujarat state officials and police use voter records to escort murderous mobs to their Muslim victims -- then there is scant recourse.

As I have always said, if Muslim countries had the economic, diplomatic, military and media clout to redress the legitimate grievances of Muslim minorities, there would be much less global terrorism in the name of Islam.

 

[AUSTERLITZ]

The recurring fear is-If they had the military and economic clout as u say,there would be less terrorism as then islam would take over suppressing everything else with violence and that would be the end of progressive human civilization.Worldwide mullah raj.

 

[Vinod2070]

Because, when you look at the FACTS of Israel, it is a colonial cancer. The mere fact that Israel receives any sympathy at all is testament to the triumph of the Zionists' media campaign.

If any other group of religious fanatics invaded a foreign land, kicked out the locals, colluded with colonial masters and claimed that land because their God had so ordained, they would be castigated. Yet Israel has managed to portray itself as the victim in all this.

One more country in our immediate neighborhood comes to mind. Only the colonialists in this case happen to sundry Turks/Arabs/Afghans and therefore presumably more acceptable.

With far more devastation than in Palestine.

That is dismissed by some as an issue of "time" (as in the times were barbaric, not the people involved or their ideology).

Unless people learn to respect the golden rule and expect from others what they practice themselves, they will never sound credible.

The topic is about the integration of local Muslim community in Western countries, not global terrorism.

As for terrorism, that is also a debatable subject. Terrorism has become a convenient label for many governments to repress their citizens and deny them rights. Most of these regions of terrorism deny access to independent media to ascertain the facts.

Also, in the case of Christian or Jewish minorities being persecuted, the dominant West makes sure to highlight and address their concerns, even getting them freedom (South Sudan, East Timor, etc.). India pokes its nose into Sri Lankan affairs at the behest of its Hindu Tamil constituency. But, when Muslim minorities are persecuted -- when Burmese military joins hands with Buddhist monks to lead rampaging mobs against Muslims, or when Gujarat state officials and police use voter records to escort murderous mobs to their Muslim victims -- then there is scant recourse.

As I have always said, if Muslim countries had the economic, diplomatic, military and media clout to redress the legitimate grievances of Muslim minorities, there would be much less global terrorism in the name of Islam.

Others may think that Muslims are getting away with persecuting minorities (and minority Shia or other sects) in their own lands, denying them religious freedom (or any freedom at all) while enjoying full rights in the non Muslim countries.

Depends on who is looking.

 

[jbond197]

and yet there are more than a hundred million living in India - presumably hell bent on threatening Indians??


No, give it some thought and write something you can defend

Not everyone can be as tolerant as Indians and the same trait is visible in vast majority of Indian Muslims barring a few influenced by extremist ideologies flowing from across the border. It's a fact that majority of Muslims elsewhere are very rigid/intolerant in comparison with majority of Indian and East Asian Muslims and that's what is impacting their image.

 

[Developereo]

One more country in our immediate neighborhood comes to mind. Only the colonialists in this case happen to sundry Turks/Arabs/Afghans and therefore presumably more acceptable.

The concept of the end of colonialism applies to the modern era.

If one goes back in time, then almost all conquests were "colonial", including most of the wars within the Indian subcontinent itself.

After the WW of the early twentieth century, it was deemed the end of the colonial era, where the European colonial masters left their domains to the indigenous peoples. The ONLY exception is Israel which was reserved for people migrating into the new land. This migration -- colonization -- was facilitated, even orchestrated, by the British colonial rulers and, therefore, Israel is a direct symbol of European colonialism.