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Strategic options on kashmir issue

Barring Ser 1 , which of the remaining options has Pak not tried unsuccessfully in the past ?

As regards’ now or never ‘ , Never is the answer. The sooner Pak realises this & moves on the better for it

India meanwhile does what it deems best for its land.
Never say never...
 
Fuel the uprising and force India to attack us and then we take Kashmir. Thats the only thing we can do

great strategist musharraf was trained in the same school where you teach .he also went to take kashmir through kargil.
 
Who was the Pakistani ruler? Give tge name and born location of the great ruler from present Pakistan land?

Again, from Western countries was ruling on us including Pakistan. Its funny if someone has identity problems.
i think he is confusing Turkik and Central Asian invaders with peoples indiginous to Pakistan. The fact is for 10,000 years Pakistan has been ruled by foreigners, from Mauryans and Guptas to Greeks to Kushans to Huns to Mughals. India, in contrast, was ruled by foreign powers for less than 500 years of its 10,000 year history. Not only that, but Hindu Indian empires ruled over modern Pakistan for almost 500 years. On the other hand, no empire native to Pakistan ever ruled any significant part of India. Pakistanis could barely rule themselves, let alone others.

I keep on posting this map made by the British, because this map alone destroys the myths of "1000 year Muslim rule" held by insecure Pakistanis.

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Who was the Pakistani ruler? Give tge name and born location of the great ruler from present Pakistan land?

Again, from Western countries was ruling on us including Pakistan. Its funny if someone has identity problems.

1. Akbar, the famous Mughal emperor, was born in Umarkot in Rajputana (Presnet day Sindh in Pakistan).

2. Shahjahan another Mughal emperor was born in Lahore, Pakistan
 
Who was the Pakistani ruler? Give tge name and born location of the great ruler from present Pakistan land?

Again, from Western countries was ruling on us including Pakistan. Its funny if someone has identity problems.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Punjab
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Sindh
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Khyber_Pakhtunkhwa
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Balochistan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Kashmir

Your right it is funny when gangus with identity problems try to project their insecurities onto Pakistanis.

i think he is confusing Turkik and Central Asian invaders with peoples indiginous to Pakistan. The fact is for 10,000 years Pakistan has been ruled by foreigners, from Mauryans and Guptas to Greeks to Kushans to Huns to Mughals. India, in contrast, was ruled by foreign powers for less than 500 years of its 10,000 year history. Not only that, but Hindu Indian empires ruled over modern Pakistan for almost 500 years. On the other hand, no empire native to Pakistan ever ruled any significant part of India. Pakistanis could barely rule themselves, let alone others.

I keep on posting this map made by the British, because this map alone destroys the myths of "1000 year Muslim rule" held by insecure Pakistanis.

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According to gangu logic Pashtuns now count as "foreigners" :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
 
India, in contrast, was ruled by foreign powers for less than 500 years of its 10,000 year history.

You forgot to add few zeros. I am doing that for you. It is not 10,000 years, but 1,000,000,000,000,000 years.:lol:

I keep on posting this map made by the British, because this map alone destroys the myths of "1000 year Muslim rule" held by insecure Pakistanis.

:omghaha::omghaha::omghaha::omghaha::omghaha:
 
Wow the 2-3 years which Marathas held dominion, before being humiliated, and chased out of Punjab was really embarassing for us. Yes thats completely the same as hundreds of years of subjugation by Muslim rulers in every region of India.


you are arguing with monkeys here ,

1 .a nation who rewards a coward with veer chakra ( on getting shot down)

2. they even celebrate raja prithvi who was humiliated by sultan ghouri and had his head chopped off while captive


point is, indians would celebrate anyone /anything that even stood up to muslim conquest ( only to be slapped down)

:)
 
1. Akbar, the famous Mughal emperor, was born in Umarkot in Rajputana (Presnet day Sindh in Pakistan).

2. Shahjahan another Mughal emperor was born in Lahore, Pakistan

Mughal came from Uzbekistan and occupied both present Pakistan and India. How come they became Pakistani or Indian?

Just take a example : during the British raj if any British kids born in India or Pakistan then was they called Indian or Pakistani?
 
Mughal came from Uzbekistan and occupied both present Pakistan and India. How come they became Pakistani or Indian?

Just take a example : during the British raj if any British kids born in India or Pakistan then was they called Indian or Pakistani?
Aryans became Indians too
 
Pakistan have no realistic options, strategic or otherwise, to do anything about Indian Kashmir. You got no tangible support from any other nation on earth on it, not even from Saudia, not the USA either, or any of the other gulf/Islamic countries. Platitudes mean nothing, words of support from socialist leaders in the US and UK mean nothing, they were just pandering for the muslim vote anyway.

It is probably best to forget about Indian Kashmir and concentrate on improving the economy etc.
 
Aryans became Indians too

The fact is that most of the people, currently living in subcontinent, are descendants of those people, who came here, from other regions, in different times and periods, for a variety of reasons. But these elite Hindus are very selective, in this respect, and distort the history to suit their narrative. It is almost futile to discuss with them this issue in a rational manner. The real problem is religion; so whoever came and became Hindu, is acceptable; others are not. As simple as that.
 
These were not great rulers. Yaar.
These are only few rulers and including many rulers from India if you just go the list.

Aryans became Indians too

Aryan's were not occupiers or rulers.

Try to understand difference first, Sir.
 
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