Stragetic setback for Russia - The US will emerge re-fuelled

[Titanium100]

There will be no second empire in this world. One of the purposes of establishing Belt and Road Initiative is to unite Eurasia and build a multipolar world.

Oright you are playing very diplomatic here brother

 

[chinasun]

Oright you are playing very diplomatic here brother

Chinese philosophy tells us to go with the tide. People all over the world don't want to have empires anymore. Chinese leaders have said many times that China will never become an empire.

 

[Titanium100]

Chinese philosophy tells us to go with the tide. People all over the world don't want to have empires anymore. Chinese leaders have said many times that China will never become an empire.

I would have believed you if this was 1946 or a similar day in the future..

The world is erractic bro and long peace in this format is not feasible but post a new order yes...

Perhaps we will be able to see 200 years long peace or even longer but nonetheless a long peace.. I think we will be able to enter a 1000 year long peace but this format can't sustain it

 

[xyxmt]

100% Biden retreating

 

[Titanium100]

100% Biden retreating

Nah.. Russia will retreat most likely unless they launch an incursion to some form or level..

1. Ukraine will stay pro-west

2. NATO will remain in East Europe with more reinforcements

 

[maverick1977]

The reason the Americans were spamming the invasion was part of their mind games and to disrupt Russia's intentions..

1. Biden said many times with confident look ''He will attack cause he put himself where he can't backout''

This means Biden's intel team is top notch...

2. The situation is double edged sword for Putin with two options ''Invade by making an incursion re-enter the revival of new Russian age at the becosting of US or retreat giving initiative back to the US where Russia's influence will slowly begin to fade and that aura of fear will be gone in Europe..

Russian incursion will embolden them into a new Russian golden age while the US will fade influence wise slowly by such outcome where the Russian's will step into the world stage overnight..

3. Hence the Americans have been obsessed with invasion because they don't want it to happen otherwise it will make there prestige suffer including influence will wane down

It is the aftermath outfall what scares the US and loss of influence as consequence and A new belligerent Russia stepping into the world stage.. Russia's stock will go up ridiculously and will mentally gain influence over east europe as few of them will exit for security reasons... Croatia, Hungary, Bulgaria, Greece, Macedonia, Montonegro will leave NATO and the baltics may exit but not guaraanteed..

An Eastern ortodox alliance could take shape as a consequence of that on the eastern-south European territories

America wants invasion to happen to revive NATO and to get other nations to chip more into the kitty... NATO is almost dead and needs a conflict for its revival, This will also devastate Russian oil supply as if the war didnt happen then Russia is to make billions more as oil prices are high. US is using Ukraine as a Guinea pig...

I do not agree with your analysis.

 

[zzzz]

Nah.. Russia will retreat most likely unless they launch an incursion to some form or level..

1. Ukraine will stay pro-west

2. NATO will remain in East Europe with more reinforcements

First you make up delusional story about Russia invading Ukraine then claim that Russia retreating when nothing happened. Geniously

Ukraine is degrading and collapsing corrupt mafia state. Their real population dropped to 30 mil. Just last year alone they lost 1 mil people. 1 mil out of 30 mil in one year. Out of this only 100-150k died from covid. In 15 years their population will be 15-20 mil with most people 60+ years old. And 5-10 mil more of Ukrainians will migrate to Russia.

Russia is enjoying the fact that collapsing Ukraine is pro-West. Thats why Ukraine and their buthurt Western masters so desperate to drag and keep Russia in conflict with Ukraine to distract mad, hunger and freezing Ukrainian population from what they did to Ukraine. Thats the reason they refuse to comply with ceasefire in Donbass and shelling it for 7 years.

The great destruction and genocide of Ukrainian nation by West - this is what History will teach in second half of this century. Thats why people in West who knows what is going on so desperate.

 

[Piotr]

First you make up delusional story about Russia invading Ukraine then claim that Russia retreating when nothing happened. Geniously

Ukraine is degrading and collapsing corrupt mafia state. Their real population dropped to 30 mil. Just last year alone they lost 1 mil people. 1 mil out of 30 mil in one year. Out of this only 100-150k died from covid. In 15 years their population will be 15-20 mil with most people 60+ years old. And 5-10 mil more of Ukrainians will migrate to Russia.

Russia is enjoying the fact that collapsing Ukraine is pro-West. Thats why Ukraine and their buthurt Western masters so desperate to drag and keep Russia in conflict with Ukraine to distract mad, hunger and freezing Ukrainian population from what they did to Ukraine. Thats the reason they refuse to comply with ceasefire in Donbass and shelling it for 7 years.

The great destruction and genocide of Ukrainian nation by West - this is what History will teach in second half of this century. Thats why people in West who knows what is going on so desperate.

In 1980s Antonov in the Ukraine produced hundreds of aircrafts per year. Since US coup against the Ukraine in 2014, the Ukraine is in freefall. AFAIK Antonov hasn't produced a single new aircraft since 2016. Thanks to USA the Ukraine is now the poorest country in Europe.

 

[Titanium100]

America wants invasion to happen to revive NATO and to get other nations to chip more into the kitty... NATO is almost dead and needs a conflict for its revival, This will also devastate Russian oil supply as if the war didnt happen then Russia is to make billions more as oil prices are high. US is using Ukraine as a Guinea pig...

I do not agree with your analysis.

Not really bro.. A russian retreat will also have bad consequences for China as emboldened US will emerge from this crisis.. Russia even doing a limited incursion will halt a re-emergence and emboldened US war hawks something similar to the cold war but at much less scale..

An emboldened US rednecks will heavily fortify Japan, South korea, Guam and japanese islands closer to Taiwan like Okinawa with reinforcements like madman hence this retreat will have consequences and blow-back for Russia and China...

Just watch closely Biden will give orders to dispatch and strengthen these flanks just like he did here succesfully and he will see that it worked..

deployment of rednecks and hillbillies is guaraanted

 

[Enigma SIG]

Russia just needs to sit back and watch the US cry wolf. Last thing Russia wants is a a united Europe staring down its neck. Europe is very fractured right now.

 

[kingQamaR]

How did this Russian megalomaniac believed he could get away with seizing a whole European country by force. Expect no opposition from the EU. Now he’s stuck Ukraine democratic break out made him panic miscalculation will cost him his own future back in Russia.

 

[Titanium100]

How did this Russian megalomaniac believed he could get away with seizing a whole European country by force. Expect no opposition from the EU. Now he’s stuck Ukraine democratic break out made him panic miscalculation will cost him his own future back in Russia.

EU is divided and Weak but uncle sam is the enforcer who doesn't want to lose an inch

 

[LeGenD]

EU is divided and Weak but uncle sam is the enforcer who doesn't want to lose an inch

Europeans might have internal differences but they take NATO very seriously.

The reason the Americans were spamming the invasion was part of their mind games and to disrupt Russia's intentions..

1. Biden said many times with confident look ''He(Putin) will attack cause he put himself where he can't backout''

This means Biden's intel team is top notch...

2. The situation is double edged sword for Putin with two options ''Invade by making an incursion re-enter the revival of new Russian age at the becosting of US or retreat giving initiative back to the US where Russia's influence will slowly begin to fade and that aura of fear will be gone in Europe..

Russian incursion will embolden them into a new Russian golden age while the US will fade influence wise slowly by such outcome where the Russian's will step into the world stage overnight..

3. Hence the Americans have been obsessed with invasion because they don't want it to happen otherwise it will make there prestige suffer including influence will wane down

It is the aftermath outfall what scares the US and loss of influence as consequence and A new belligerent Russia stepping into the world stage.. Russia's stock will go up ridiculously and will mentally gain influence over east europe as few of them will exit for security reasons... Croatia, Hungary, Bulgaria, Greece, Macedonia, Montonegro will leave NATO and the baltics may exit but not guaraanteed..

An Eastern ortodox alliance could take shape as a consequence of that on the eastern-south European territories

Ukraine can develop advanced equipment but have neglected its own defensive needs for so many years which is strange. It is a buffer state between NATO and Russia much like Belarus.

Russia can invade Ukraine but it will be booted from Nord Stream 2.

What is Nord Stream 2 and can Biden kill it?

By Ivana Kottasová and Charles Riley, CNN Business

www.kten.com

Russia is alarmed by Ukrainian tilt towards NATO because it wants to maintain buffer zones between NATO and itself.

Russian concern is valid from its own security standpoint but it remains to be seen how it can reshape Ukraine. Russia managed to annex some parts of Ukraine in 2014 but it might want to cut through Ukraine further, to create a buffer zone of sorts between NATO and itself. Time will tell.

 

[GumNaam]

The reason the Americans were spamming the invasion was part of their mind games and to disrupt Russia's intentions..

1. Biden said many times with confident look ''He(Putin) will attack cause he put himself where he can't backout''

This means Biden's intel team is top notch...

2. The situation is double edged sword for Putin with two options ''Invade by making an incursion re-enter the revival of new Russian age at the becosting of US or retreat giving initiative back to the US where Russia's influence will slowly begin to fade and that aura of fear will be gone in Europe..

Russian incursion will embolden them into a new Russian golden age while the US will fade influence wise slowly by such outcome where the Russian's will step into the world stage overnight..

3. Hence the Americans have been obsessed with invasion because they don't want it to happen otherwise it will make there prestige suffer including influence will wane down

It is the aftermath outfall what scares the US and loss of influence as consequence and A new belligerent Russia stepping into the world stage.. Russia's stock will go up ridiculously and will mentally gain influence over east europe as few of them will exit for security reasons... Croatia, Hungary, Bulgaria, Greece, Macedonia, Montonegro will leave NATO and the baltics may exit but not guaraanteed..

An Eastern ortodox alliance could take shape as a consequence of that on the eastern-south European territories

Russia's ultimate aim is to prove to the world that american sanctions aren't dangerous, they are meaningless...Russia will do so either conquering ukraine or toppling the pro-american regime in kiev and replacing it with a pro-Russian government through civil uprising of the pro-Russian population. when america reacts with its so called "never tried before supposedly devastating sactions), Russia starve europe of gas causing a crash in the european stocks while also suspending oil shipments to the u.s. don't forget, Russia is the 2nd largest exporter of oil to u.s. no Russian oil will mean either long lines in front of american gas stations or paying $15 per gallon for the expensive canadian/american oil. that too will cause a crash in the american stock markets. america doesn't have the luxury of switching to middle eastern oil as it will put them in a precarious position in front of the middle eastern oil suppliers who will charge an arm and a leg from the americans for their oil given that u.s. won't have much of an option. All the while when Russia will switch itself off from the swift system to both its own SPFS and Chinese CIPS there by taking all the nations that are aligned with Russia and China as well. the only thing that america can do to prevent this from happening is to military intervene and get into a hot confrontation against Russia, which is something that washington has no gutts to do.

Right now, Russia holds the power to literally RUIN the so called "global rule based order" and shake it down to the rubbles.

 

[LeGenD]

Russia's ultimate aim is to prove to the world that american sanctions aren't dangerous, they are meaningless...Russia will do so either conquering ukraine or toppling the pro-american regime in kiev and replacing it with a pro-Russian government through civil uprising of the pro-Russian population. when america reacts with its so called "never tried before supposedly devastating sactions), Russia starve europe of gas causing a crash in the european stocks while also suspending oil shipments to the u.s. don't forget, Russia is the 2nd largest exporter of oil to u.s. no Russian oil will mean either long lines in front of american gas stations or paying $15 per gallon for the expensive canadian/american oil. that too will cause a crash in the american stock markets. america doesn't have the luxury of switching to middle eastern oil as it will put them in a precarious position in front of the middle eastern oil suppliers who will charge an arm and a leg from the americans for their oil given that u.s. won't have much of an option. All the while when Russia will switch itself off from the swift system to both its own SPFS and Chinese CIPS there by taking all the nations that are aligned with Russia and China as well. the only thing that america can do to prevent this from happening is to military intervene and get into a hot confrontation against Russia, which is something that washington has no gutts to do.

Right now, Russia holds the power to literally RUIN the so called "global rule based order" and shake it down to the rubbles.

Are you for real?

Russia used to be 5th largest economy in the world before 2014. Russia dropped to 11th spot due to American sanctions. Russian military modernization plan also took a hit by extension. American sanctions do bite depending upon to what extent they are imposed and which economic streams are targeted.

Russia can benefit much from its Nord Stream 2 deal with Germany but it is risking being booted from this deal if it chooses to invade Ukraine again. You may check the link I shared above.

Russian gas exports to USA are not significant:

Is Russia selling gas to the US? – DW – 01/10/2018

Companies in the United States are trying to force Russia out of the European gas market. Now, though, it has emerged that Russian liquefied natural gas is being supplied directly to the US. How does this fit together?

www.dw.com

Generally speaking, it's difficult for Russia and other states to export to the US. "Prices are low there, because the Americans have enough gas of their own," says Bikh.

Natural gas imports and exports - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)

Sources of U.S. natural gas imports and destinations of U.S. natural gas exports, and import and export volumes by pipelines and trucks and as LNG.

www.eia.gov

Although most of the natural gas consumed in the United States is produced in the United States, the United States imports some natural gas to help supply domestic demand. The United States also exports natural gas. Most natural gas imports and exports are by pipeline as a gas and by ship as liquefied natural gas (LNG). Small amounts of natural gas are imported and exported by trucks as LNG and as compressed natural gas (CNG).