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"Directorate S: The C. I. A. and America's Secret Wars in Afghanistan and Pakistan, 2001-2016" by Steve Coll holds Pakistan ISI's Directorate S primarily responsible for America's longest war.


The author does acknowledge other factors such as Washington's policy failures, Kabul government's corruption, divisions and dysfunction, Indian intelligence RAW's role, etc. However, he plays down the significance of these other factors and pins the blame squarely on Pakistan ISI, particularly its Directorate S which the author describes as one of the ISI directorates "devoted to secret operations in support of the Taliban, Kashmiri guerrillas, and other violent Islamic radicals". The book sticks essentially to America's oft-repeated narrative of blaming Pakistan for US failure to win the war after 16 years of fighting.

Vital American Interests in Afghanistan:

Coll narrates top-level discussions during the successive administrations of President George W. Bush and President Barack Obama identified America's objectives/vital interests in the region are as follows:

1. Destroy Al Qaeda in the region

2. Ensure Pakistan's stability to keep nukes out of the hands of terrorists

Notably absent from these goals is the defeat/destruction of the Taliban.

While there was considerable success in achieving the first objective, the actions taken to achieve that success induced instability in Pakistan. It gave rise to Tehrik e Taliban Pakistan (TTP) which launched deadly attacks on the Pakistani state that killed tens of thousands of civilians and security personnel.

Efforts by the United States to negotiate with the Afghan Taliban went nowhere, partly due to strong opposition to such talks by Tajik faction of the Afghan government.

India-Pakistan Great Game in Afghanistan:

Author Steve Coll quotes Ambassador Richard Holbrooke, President Barack Obama's representative for the region, as explaining how critical India-Pakistan relationship is to solving Afghanistan. Holbrooke said, "There are three countries here--Pakistan, Afghanistan, and India--with vastly different stages of political, social, and economic development. They share a common strategic space. As has happened so many times in history, the weak state is the one that sucks in the others. That's the history of Afghanistan and now the Great Game is being played with different players. The India-Pakistan relationship is an absolutely critical driver".

India's Covert War Against Pakistan:

Coll acknowledges Indian intelligence agency RAW's role in Afghanistan saying that "it was not as if R.A.W. had dropped out of covert actions specifically designed to undermine Pakistani stability"..... efforts that run counter to America's vital interest/goal number 2 in the region.

However, the author underplays its importance. He fails to take notice of the mounting evidence that even some Indian analysts and media find hard to ignore. Here are some instances:

1. Bharat Karnad, a professor of national security studies at the Centre for Policy Research in New Delhi, recently acknowledged India's use of Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) terrorist group against Pakistan in an Op Ed he wrote for Hindustan Times.

2. Indian journalist Praveen Swami said in a piece published in "Frontline": "Since 2013, India has secretly built up a covert action program against Pakistan."

3. India's former RAW officers, including one ex chief, have blamed Indian spy Kulbhushan Jadhav, arrested by Pakistan in 2016, for getting caught in Pakistan as a "result of unprofessionalism", according to a report in India's "The Quint" owned and operated by a joint venture of Bloomberg News and Quintillion Media. The report that appeared briefly on The Quint website has since been removed, apparently under pressure from the Indian government.

4. A story by Indian journalist Karan Thapar pointed out several flaws in the Indian narrative claiming that Kulbhushan Jadhav, arrested in Pakistan while engaging in India's covert war in Balochistan, was an innocent Indian businessman kidnapped from Chabahar by Pakistani agents. Writing for the Indian Express, Thapar debunked the entire official story from New Delhi.

Former US Defense Secretary Hagel:

Indian journalist claims that India's covert war against Pakistan started in 2013. However, former US Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel said back in 2011 that "India has always used Afghanistan as a second front against Pakistan. India has over the years been financing problems in Pakistan". Secretary Hagel was speaking at Cameron University in Oklahoma.

General David Petraeus's View:

General David Petraeus, former CIA director and commander of US troops in Afghanistan, has said there is no evidence of Pakistan playing a double game and supporting terrorists in Afghanistan.

Speaking at the Royal United Services Institute (RUSI) in London in 2016, he said "I looked very very hard then (as US commander in Afghanistan) and again as CIA director at the nature of the relationship between the various (militant) groups in FATA and Baluchistan and the Pakistan Army and the ISI and I was never convinced of what certain journalists have alleged (about ISI support of militant groups in FATA).... I have talked to them (journalists) asked them what their sources are and I have not been able to come to grips with that based on what I know from these different positions (as US commander and CIA director)".

Gen Petraeus did acknowledge that "there's communication between the ISI and various militant groups in FATA and Balochistan (Haqqanis, Taliban, Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan, etc) but some of it you'd do anyway as an intelligence service." He added that "there may be some degree of accommodation that is forced on them (Pakistanis) because of the limits of their (Pakistan's) forces."

Former CIA Officer Michael Scheuer's View of ISI:

To put unrelenting western and India media and analysts' attacks on the ISI in perspective, let's read some excerpts from an interview of ex CIA officer and chief Bin Laden hunter Michael Scheuer on ISI, and watch the following video:

1. ISI is like all other intelligence services--like the Australian service or the American service.

2. ISI works for the interest of their country, not to help other countries.

3. The idea that ISI is a rogue organization is very popular--and even the Pakistanis promote it---but having worked with ISI for the better part of 20 years, I know the ISI is very disciplined and very able intelligence agency.

4. Pakistanis can not leave the area (AfPak) when we (Americans) do. They have to try and stabilize Afghanistan with a favorable Islamic government so they can move their 100,000 troops from their western border to the eastern border with India which---whether we like it or not, they see as a bigger threat.

5. We (US) have created the mess in South Asia and the Pakistanis have to sort it out. Our (US) problems in Afghanistan are of our own making.

6. Al Qaeda has grown from just one platform (Afghanistan in 2001) to six platforms now.

Summary:

"Directorate S: The C. I. A. and America's Secret Wars in Afghanistan and Pakistan, 2001-2016" by Steve Coll holds Pakistan ISI's Directorate S primarily responsible for America's longest war. The author does acknowledge other factors such as Washington's policy failures, Kabul government's corruption, divisions and dysfunction, Indian intelligence RAW's role, etc. However, he plays down the significance of these other factors and pins the blame squarely on Pakistan ISI, particularly its Directorate S. Coll downplays all evidence pointing to India's covert war being waged against Pakistan from the Afghan soil. It is this war that is destabilizing both Afghanistan and Pakistan. Ignoring it will delay any resolution to the Afghan problem.

Here's a video of ex CIA Officer Michael Scheuer talking about ISI:



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http://www.riazhaq.com/2018/02/steve-colls-directorate-s-demonizes.html
 
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The same old accusations, but the Americans are the real losers here. Their accusations and finger pointing has pushed Pakistan into a camp we wanted to be from day one. No wonder the Yanks are licking their wounds now.

Pakistan is not an American client state anymore. They can shove their bribe aid up their buttocks.
 
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Steve Coll is a journalist who started his career as a young man in New Delhi, India.

Like many impressionable young reporters who get their first lessons about South Asia while posted in India, he too learned of the region from a very Indian perspective. His book reflects that.

And what lessons are those?

Read Alice Albinia's preface to her book "Empires of the Indus":

"It was April, 2000, almost a year since the war between Pakistan and India over Kargil in Kashmir had ended, and the newspapers which the delivery man threw on to my terrace every morning still portrayed Pakistan as a rogue state, governed by military cowboys, inhabited by murderous fundamentalists: the rhetoric had the patina of hysteria."


http://www.riazhaq.com/2010/11/rulers-and-media-manufacture-consent-in.html
 
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The same old accusations, but the Americans are the real losers here. Their accusations and finger pointing has pushed Pakistan into a camp we wanted to be from day one. No wonder the Yanks are licking their wounds now.

Pakistan is not an American client state anymore. They can shove their bribe aid up their buttocks.
It still is...but hopefully not for long...
 
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They always forget the damage Pakistan has suffered from 2006 onwards....
Bomb blast everywhere, no economy and our image tarnished.
Why did not ISI stop all that mess, if ISI is so powerfuln
Or why would ISI do all the things they allege ISI to do, when Pakistan was burning itself....
If only we have worked openly and not defensively and promoted our narrative.
But government in Islamabad is always worried about securing the next elections. They have no interest in foreign policy.
 
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Steve Coll is a journalist who started his career as a young man in New Delhi, India.

Like many impressionable young reporters who get their first lessons about South Asia while posted in India, he too learned of the region from a very Indian perspective. His book reflects that.

And what lessons are those?

Read Alice Albinia's preface to her book "Empires of the Indus":

"It was April, 2000, almost a year since the war between Pakistan and India over Kargil in Kashmir had ended, and the newspapers which the delivery man threw on to my terrace every morning still portrayed Pakistan as a rogue state, governed by military cowboys, inhabited by murderous fundamentalists: the rhetoric had the patina of hysteria."


http://www.riazhaq.com/2010/11/rulers-and-media-manufacture-consent-in.html

Steve Coll spent three years as a Washington Post correspondent in New Delhi and this taints his book on ISI (his second book, by the way) how? He spent many years and conducted countless interviews, including many Pakistanis. This is weak even by your standards.
 
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Steve Coll spent three years as a Washington Post correspondent in New Delhi and this taints his book on ISI (his second book, by the way) how? He spent many years and conducted countless interviews, including many Pakistanis. This is weak even by your standards.

I find Michael Scheuer much more credible in assessing ISI and its role in Afghanistan.

To put unrelenting western and India media and analysts' attacks on the ISI in perspective, let's read some excerpts from an interview of ex CIA officer and chief Bin Laden hunter Michael Scheuer on ISI, and watch the following video:

1. ISI is like all other intelligence services--like the Australian service or the American service.

2. ISI works for the interest of their country, not to help other countries.

3. The idea that ISI is a rogue organization is very popular--and even the Pakistanis promote it---but having worked with ISI for the better part of 20 years, I know the ISI is very disciplined and very able intelligence agency.

4. Pakistanis can not leave the area (AfPak) when we (Americans) do. They have to try and stabilize Afghanistan with a favorable Islamic government so they can move their 100,000 troops from their western border to the eastern border with India which---whether we like it or not, they see as a bigger threat.

5. We (US) have created the mess in South Asia and the Pakistanis have to sort it out. Our (US) problems in Afghanistan are of our own making.

6. Al Qaeda has grown from just one platform (Afghanistan in 2001) to six platforms now.


 
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Why the f*ck would you read a book on Afghanistan from a US journo who started out his life in India? We all know what they are there for fgs.
 
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I heard Steve Coll, author of Directorate S, interviewed by Michael Krasny on KQED Forum this morning.

Coll quoted Ex Vice President Joe Biden as saying: "Pakistan is 50 times more important to US than Afghanistan"

Later in the interview, Coll acknowledged that there are several ungoverned areas like Somalia and weak states elsewhere from where Al Qaeda and other Islamic militants operate. However, he said Afghanistan is different because it's next door to Pakistan which has nuclear weapons. It's important to US because Islamic militants in Afghanistan threaten Pakistan's stability and security of its nuclear weapons that could fall into the hands of terrorists.

Coll's statements beg the following question: Are the US actions in the region contributing to Pakistan's stability?

He answered it partly when he volunteered that Pakistan was a safe place when he traveled extensively throughout the country and covered Pakistan for Washington Post before 911.

He also said the Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) cam close to marching to Islamabad in 2009 after they took over Swat.

Coll also said that Pakistan will not be persuaded by Trump's argument that the US is prepared to stay in Afghanistan for as long as it takes to "win" .

https://ww2.kqed.org/forum/2018/02/...tary-involvement-in-afghanistan-and-pakistan/
 
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I will watch it when i will get some more time. Btw i have heard another western aithors book is coming on pakisatn iwill share it here if its a correct news.

Why the f*ck would you read a book on Afghanistan from a US journo who started out his life in India? We all know what they are there for fgs.
Its 5th gen warfare one SHOULD AND MUST read it to know what propaganda is done against them. You know i dont follow bollywood but whenever theres a hype abt anti pak and anti muslim film imdo read up their stories and watch trailers to see what propaganda is dome against us and i aphave really gotten to see so,e very disturbing thinking of indians.

Recently I came across one of their film called qurbans story, the story seemed clearly anti muslim narrative peddling then i googled online and watched it in bits and i was disgusted how thru the movie they had shown muslims are into terrorism and they would go to any lengths just to fulfill their goals. It was very stupid but it sort of helped me understand how muslims are protrayed there and ironically the guy who played the main role of a terrorist himself is a muslim actor. How pathetic.

Why the f*ck would you read a book on Afghanistan from a US journo who started out his life in India? We all know what they are there for fgs.
Similarly theres another indian film that was banned in pak for anti pak content its called agent vinod, i havent watched it but i read its story online. See tere are tommes of anti pak and anti muslim fake history films one doesnt need to watch every one of them but unless he really wishes but one could always read their storylines online on wiki and get a clue of what they show about pakistan or muslims history.

In agent vinod ( havent watched it read the story) they show that some rogue major or officer from isi pak intel agency steals a nuclear decice and wants to explode it, then kareena an isi agent and saif a raw agent work together to disable that decice and in the end he manages to. Its shytt but these are indian tools to spread propaganda against pakistan by subliminally creating image that isi always funds terrorism ,it has rogue elements, paks nuke devices arent safe etc etc.
 
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Steve Coll spent three years as a Washington Post correspondent in New Delhi and this taints his book on ISI (his second book, by the way) how? He spent many years and conducted countless interviews, including many Pakistanis. This is weak even by your standards.
And it has nothing to do with the fact that you're an indian and an indian American?
 
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I will watch it when i will get some more time. Btw i have heard another western aithors book is coming on pakisatn iwill share it here if its a correct news.


Its 5th gen warfare one SHOULD AND MUST read it to know what propaganda is done against them. You know i dont follow bollywood but whenever theres a hype abt anti pak and anti muslim film imdo read up their stories and watch trailers to see what propaganda is dome against us and i aphave really gotten to see so,e very disturbing thinking of indians.

Recently I came across one of their film called qurbans story, the story seemed clearly anti muslim narrative peddling then i googled online and watched it in bits and i was disgusted how thru the movie they had shown muslims are into terrorism and they would go to any lengths just to fulfill their goals. It was very stupid but it sort of helped me understand how muslims are protrayed there and ironically the guy who played the main role of a terrorist himself is a muslim actor. How pathetic.


Similarly theres another indian film that was banned in pak for anyi pak content its called agent vinod, i havent watched it but i read its story online. See tere are tommes of anti pak and anti muslim fake history films one doesnt need to watch every one of them but unless he really wishes but one could always read their storylines online on wiki and get a clue of what they show about pakistan or muslims history.

In agent vinod ( havent watched it read the story) they show that some rogue major or officer from isi pak intel agency steals a nuclear decice and wants to explode it, then kareena an isi agent and saif a raw agent work together to disable that decice and in the end he manages to. Its shytt but these are indian tools to spread propaganda against pakistan by subliminally creating image that isi always funds terrorism ,it has rogue elements, paks nuke devices arent safe etc etc.
But that is expected. Where is OUR film industry? Spread the truth and counter the propaganda.
 
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