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Well folks here a tough question that's been confusing me for sometime now... I don't know how to put it but here you go.. (read it all the way through)
Last month I was asked a hypothetical question by my friend, that what would i do if Balochistan leaves Pakistan - my strange reply was that although I've never been there but my blood lines are directly from there and no matter how much Pak has done for me i would side with "my land" (that doesnt mean anti-Pak though)
So this question made me think of about 40% of the Pakistanis whose family migrated from present day India, how could you/they hate India(there part/village) after all that is their land, those are their people with the only difference being in personal faith.
And same goes for Indians who migrated from present day Pakistan. E.g. if some indian migrated from Peshawar side he still would be a Pathan and he SHOULD be accepted by Pathan if he is a hindu or a athiest for that matter dont you think?
Hypothetically if 20-30% of our population says that they dont believe in god i.e. they are athiest would we give them a seprate land? would we even consider them a seperate nation? If my son changes his belief doesn't he still remain my son?
I mean most of Pakistanis living overseas say their loyalty lies with Pakistan even though they are not born in Pakistan i.e. their blood lines are from Pakistan, cant the same logic be applied to these people although they were born in Pakistan but strictly strictly speaking they are not the "people of the land" (i don't mean any offence) and their ancestors are from India.
Moreover i would like to hear about your thought if your family did migrate to either side, don't you ever feel like going and exploring your past?
 
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Mine did.

But that was 63 odd years ago.

...and seriously I don't care anymore.

They came here and made this land their home.

There is no silly romanticism, well at least not in my heart nor in anyone's whom I've met and who shares a similar story.

Seriously, who cares? :what:
 
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There was a projected by British Council on the same subject of "I Belong" and in that project, I represented NCA Lahore. There were 16-20 writers who wrote on this topic and it was a surprise that everybody had his/her own sense and translation of word "belonging".

Let me give you few thoughts from those writers..

- Some believed the place where they had been born was their identity and land and they belonged there. It didn't matter to them where they moved afterwords and their connection with their birthplace was eternal.

- Some believed the place where they gained concisness and found themselves at the age of 4-5 was their land as their life started from that place and that point onwards. So they belonged there.

- Still a variation of writers believed that the place which made them Human from a Homo sapiens was their land and their identity. The place which gave them resources and "comfortable home" was their belonging place.

- Some believed the home where they have their family, parents, brothers and sisters is their home and if entire family migrates, the home migrates and new land becomes the place where he belongs. So it was basically the family which they had a sense of belonging with.

- Some writers had a troubled past and they wanted to escape from that. At some age they escaped from their bad-patch and the place which had offered them comfort was their home and their land.

This is the beauty of human that the same stone is worthless for few and gem for others. You can never say everybody thinks and finds himself in the same shoe where you stand today. You can find some thought which are common in a group but within the same group you will find deviations.

For Pakistanis who migrated from Indian to Pakistan, the Cause was their home. Had Pakistan (the geographical land) been built on the top of Mount-Everest or K-2 in a temperature far blow acceptable levels, Pakistanis would still have accepted that as their home because they were not coming towards a culture or piece of land, they were coming towards an Ideology which separated them from another ideology and that ideology was their home.

"There lives a little Indian in every Pakistani and a Pakistani in every Indian" seems true if try to be very literal. However there is a Pakistani Ideology which makes Pakistanis a Pakistani and a Hindu Ideology (which later converted into an Indian Ideology) which makes Indians an Indian. So it was a spilt of Ideologies instead of pieces of lands.. you will still find many on both side who would disagree and deviate from this theory but it was and would remain a two nation theory which defined and derived Pakistan and Pakistanis out of India and this is where majority of Pakistanis Belong.

Your Question that what will happen if (God Forbid) Baluchistan got isolated from Pakistan.. well they will have some similar feelings as Bangladeshi have today.. so they are a case study to learn how they feel where they belong to.

Not to mention, there is a major spilt inside Bangladesh.. some are Pro Pakistani and others are Pro India. So the same India-Pakistani spilt can once again be seen inside one country.
 
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my family is from Multan, and to be able to go to the place where my grandfather grew up would be incredible. its hard to put it in words on how it would be to someday ask my papaji if i can take him on a trip and fly him to multan :pakistan:

a man can wish, right?
 
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my family is from Multan, and to be able to go to the place where my grandfather grew up would be incredible. its hard to put it in words on how it would be to someday ask my papaji if i can take him on a trip and fly him to multan :pakistan:

a man can wish, right?


dont come multan with this avatar ok lolz its already too hot in multan .
 
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If we were to follow roots, we would all be in such love with Africa.

But to correctly denote a particular nation, one would have to think of it in particular times.

The India of pre-1947 period is not the India today. Today it is an entirely different country filled with different peoples bearing different ideologies.

Similarly, the Pakistan of 60's or the 70's is not the same Pakistan today. Today it is filled with different peoples driving the nation in a completely different direction. A totally different country.

So, about your doubt on Balochistan, I am certain if you were around in Pakistan the 60's, you would have never pondered on this question. If Balochistan does get formed, then 10+ years later people of that country will read its own history books. The kids that might have been born in Balochistan of Pakistan to swear their loyalties for the sake of Pakistan, would rather be entering the world in a different country to read its different books and swear against Pakistan.

I would say, go the Gandhi way - Vasudhaiva Kutumbakam - enjoy the world. :cheers:
 
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