Stand-off with China in Ladakh is India’s worst border tension since Kargil in 1999

[xeuss]

Debatable. Who did China receive almost immediate assistance from in the Covid outbreak's early days? Pakistan stepped up. A nation never really knows when it may need its true allies, until that day arrives.

US interest's aligned with Pakistan as long as there was a USSR.

Do you think China's interest will always align with Pakistan if either China or Pakistan (or both) make peace with India?

There are no permanent allies and enemies in geopolitics. Relationships are transactional and issue based.

Having said that, if China has not dumped North Korea despite the headache it has carried over the years (with no apparent benefit for China), I doubt it will dump Pakistan so easily. Perhaps China (or rather the CCP) values long term relationships more than the Western colonialists.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

but how will modi govt react to pressure from hindu safroni jazbati boys whoes delusion he fueled and they will demand response
with economy going down and pressre from hindutuva powa modi govt will be forced to do something he will react like an idiot!

That's better than having your country smashed to bits by the Chinese superpower.

 

[IMARV]

He paid blood money, secondly manhandling? it was fingering inside a diplomat that had full immunity, so much for shitty Indian supa pawa

That's what your definition of being a shitty nation? Blood money as tradition and diplomat mishandling responded diplomatically as shitty?

Nice tradition one must say.

 

[salarsikander]

That's what your definition of being a shitty nation? Blood money as tradition and diplomat mishandling responded diplomatically as shitty?

Nice tradition one must say.

The guy had diplomatic immunity and yet still paid the blood money, the women had full diplomatic immunity and yet was subjected to fingering humiliation, basically the humiliation was for entire nation of Supa pawa india

 

[Jackdaws]

Doesnt matter, he paid the blood money according to traditions


LOL, whatever makes you sleep. The fact of the matter is your diplomatic was treated and fingered like a terrorist, far worse than anything we have seen, a New precedent set by US for Indians

Lol. Sure sure. Give living in lala land.

I don't think that was the outcome she wanted though. I believe she cannot go back to the US, and her husband and children are US citizens.

That's true. Maybe there are in India now. Not followed up.

 

[salarsikander]

Lol. Sure sure. Give living in lala land.

No exactly but in reality where Indian with full diplomatic status is subjected to brutal Fingering

 

[Max]

because opposing China will put indirect diplomatic pressure on Pakistan.

How? Turks can support whomever they want, we will not back down from our interests. Turkey in the past supported northern alliance warlords, but it didn't stop our proxies? did it? you guys think too highly of Turkey.

 

[Jackdaws]

No exactly but in reality where Indian with full diplomatic status is subjected to brutal Fingering

Actually consular officers don't have full diplomatic status, embassy officers do. And CIA contractors have 0 diplomatic status. But in some countries, throw a few coins and they can get away with murder. That's the reality.

 

[Max]

US interest's aligned with Pakistan as long as there was a USSR.

Do you think China's interest will always align with Pakistan if either China or Pakistan (or both) make peace with India?

There are no permanent allies and enemies in geopolitics. Relationships are transactional and issue based.

Having said that, if China has not dumped North Korea despite the headache it has carried over the years (with no apparent benefit for China), I doubt it will dump Pakistan so easily. Perhaps China (or rather the CCP) values long term relationships more than the Western colonialists.

Completly agree with this,

National interests derives relationships, if China and Pakistan have common interests for lets say 5000 years. we will continue to be friends, if our interests collide, we maybe on each other's throat vert next moment.

 

[IMARV]

The guy had diplomatic immunity and yet still paid the blood money, the women had full diplomatic immunity and yet was subjected to fingering humiliation, basically the humiliation was for entire nation of Supa pawa india

Pakistan disputed his diplomatic immunity and rejected US claim and thus yourself taking a pride in putting a diplomat with immunity under arrest is hilarious as well as contrary to Pakistan stand.

He was treated as a normal foreign personal who killed Pakistanis. Got scott free by throwing some money.

Nice tradition one must say.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Actually consular officers don't have full diplomatic status, embassy officers do. And CIA contractors have 0 diplomatic status. But in some countries, throw a few coins and they can get away with murder. That's the reality.

Just like some Italian Marines killing 2 indian fisherman then being released and not even paying a penny:

https://caravanmagazine.in/politics/italian-marines-kerala-fishermen

Pakistan disputed his diplomatic immunity and rejected US claim and thus yourself taking a pride in putting a diplomat with immunity under arrest is hilarious as well as contrary to Pakistan stand.

He was treated as a normal foreign personal who killed Pakistanis. Got scott free by throwing some money.

Nice tradition one must say.

What about Italian Marines killing 2 indian fisherman then being released and not even paying a penny:

https://caravanmagazine.in/politics/italian-marines-kerala-fishermen

 

[T-123456]

try to understand what he wrote, he said opposition is expected from "Ummah" in case of Pakistani interests not support. he didn't ask for any support.

How they can support anyway? when they don't have means to safeguard themselves.

Yes but did you also read the part where he included us in the ''Ummah''?

''Your remarks is just like any typical Muslim countries and We can not expect any Muslim countries the level what China playing an important role for us.''

What does this quote tell you?
When did we ever oppose anything regarding Pakistan?
We dont care for CCP/CPC China,never did never will.
Your ally,your support.

 

[Moriro]

How? Turks can support whomever they want, we will not back down from our interests. Turkey in the past supported northern alliance warlords, but it didn't stop our proxies? did it? you guys think too highly of Turkey.

Northern alliance was not a state representing entity and incomparable to the influence of indians have in international politics. By only giving moral support and diplomatic back up to Kashmiri freedom fighter we are blamed of supporting terror by india and the nations who support them, we also are continiously struggling with Fatf. Without diplomatic support you cannot expect to absorb the impacts of Kashmir conflict. Turkey no doubt is now a country with growing regional influence, any diplomatic support to india by any mean and any reason will give them a good face and hide their attrocities in Kashmir and hence undermining our diplomatic efforts against them.

 

[IMARV]

What about Italian Marines killing 2 indian fisherman then being released and not even paying a penny:

https://caravanmagazine.in/politics/italian-marines-kerala-fishermen

The case is still ongoing in international court of arbitration. Indian law do not permit money for clemency.

 

[twocents]

I have seen that. Basically the official Chinese line masquerading as an opinion piece. But nothing about their army moves in Ladakh and Sikkim. Will let some Chinese poster let us know if anything is being reported in local media. I don't think so, because usually it would have made out if it had.

I am only aware of one Global Times report on the issue. Whatever has happened or is happening hasn't become newsworthy in the Chinese media, at least not yet.