Sri Lanka's Killing Fields-atrocities by SL army against Tamil civilians

[jayron]

1) perspective
LTTE were supported and funded by the Indians. They were responsible for massacres as well as the Sri Lankans.

LTTE's Kattankudi Muslim Muslim Mosque Massacre by LTTE

The Sri Lankan governments killing of civilians was alsojust as bad (some will argue that's warfare)

However LTTE did start it.

2) as in nagasaki and hiroshima, some will argue that sri lanka's ruthless campaign saved lives in the long run.

Seriously, who is supporting the LTTE here? You are actually equating a terrorist organization like LTTE with SL army by posting LTTE's atrocities in response to SL army's .

 

[Water Car Engineer]

If India didn't eff up Sri Lanka, it would have a nominal per capita between $6000-$10000 today. The jealous old witch could not stand that I am sure. The economy the Indians tout about is due to IMF and not because of brilliant Indian work. IMF literally shoved down the idea of opening the Indian economy, they accepted kicking and screaming because they were bankrupt.

Yup, just two decades ago these geniuses bankrupted themselves with no clue about wt* to do about it.

What does this have to do with anything??Ya, India was almost bankrupt in the early 1990s, but look where it is NOW you sore loser. IMF told India to reform Indian labour laws back then. India had to sell 67 tons of gold to the IMF as part of a bailout deal. They didn't shove the idea of opening the Indian economy. And clearly Narasimha Rao and Manmohan Singh did know wt* to do back then. And no body kicked and screamed either.

 

[temujin]

1) perspective
LTTE were supported and funded by the Indians. They were responsible for massacres as well as the Sri Lankans.

LTTE's Kattankudi Muslim Muslim Mosque Massacre by LTTE

The Sri Lankan governments killing of civilians was alsojust as bad (some will argue that's warfare)

2) as in nagasaki and hiroshima, some will argue that sri lanka's ruthless campaign saved lives in the long run.

As already stated by others on many occasions previously, no one is defending the actions of LTTE.

So now you are crediting bad boy America, which you consider the root of all evil judging by your previous posts, with saving lives through the murder of 200000 civilians in Hiroshima and Nagasaki at a time when the outcome of WW II was all but decided?

Please come up with a better reason to justify your assertion that killing of unarmed and defenseless civilians helps save lives in the long run..I take it this principle of 'prophylactic murder' holds true for places like Afghanistan, FATA etc as well?

 

[gubbi]

Even my 10 yr old nephew knows he needs to cite when he quotes.

Are you mental? Look it up on the interwebz if you are capable enough.

A 10 year old knows when to talk and when not to. A 10 year old would also know to look up information in books before answering questions. Are you mentally developed enough to do that?

 

[roadrunner]

As already stated by others on many occasions previously, no one is defending the actions of LTTE.

So now you are crediting bad boy America, which you consider the root of all evil judging by your previous posts, with saving lives through the murder of 200000 civilians in Hiroshima and Nagasaki at a time when the outcome of WW II was all but decided?

Please come up with a better reason to justify your assertion that killing of unarmed and defenseless civilians helps save lives in the long run..I take it this principle of 'prophylactic murder' holds true for places like Afghanistan, FATA etc as well?

I'm not crediting anything. I brought up the Hiroshima and Nagasaki incident because a lot of people (probably you in a different format) would use it to justify ending the second world war.

 

[fallstuff]

This thread is about SL army's killing of Tamils. Not about skih genocide or Bengali genocie.

LTTE was formed because of the genocide of Tamils by groups like JVP. Indra Gandhi exploited it, just like she exploited Mukthi Bahini to create your country.

Agreed. According to wiki the Sri Lankan military was trying to keep the burial of 13 soldiers killed by LTTE a secret to prevent a majority backlash. Evidently it didn't work.

Somewhere between 400-3000 died. Its a shame that none were tried for the slaughters.

However, it should not have been exploited. LTTE was formed before this particular atrocity. But unlike many Indian posters that claim that killing of the train passengers was the trigger of Gujrat killings, I am not going to blame the LTTE for the massacre. I don't think the SL Gov. should be held responsible for the events of May 2009. If anything this finally stopped the killings.

 

[Kaniska]

India can make noise whatever it can but the fact is after India's failed foreign policy to support Tamil nationalism is a legacy of failed foreign policy.India is really in a back foot in international arena to expect any postie support from Sri Lanka if India raise this issue. We condemn the brutalities that has happened in Sri Lanka( In case this is justified) but again if brutality and human right violation is not a relative concept. If we condemn brutalities in Sri Lanka then all Indian should also condemn Indian Army role in Kashmir also...I know this is a very very sensitive topic to correlate with each other...but the fact is we can not condemn one thing at one perspective and then justify the same in other perspective. We have to be consistent. Ifany one is condemning Sri Lanka Army then we should be patiently listen and absorb all the remarks made by Non India friends regarding Kashmir other human right violation happening in our country too....

Now the choice is yours ..You decide...
If you ask me...then i would tell that initiating the Tamil cause is the biggest foreign policy blunder that Congress has made at any point of time...and hence I feel rather than putting responsibility squarely on SL Army Congress Party should look back its dirty foreign policy decisions that has created such a mess.
Even India Gov should also share the blame for the entire mess rather than squarely blaming SL Gov for supporting this separatist movement.

I condemn the human right violation but at the end of the day...This is an exclusive internal affair of Srilanka....

 

[fallstuff]

Is the following true ?

"At the time of 1983 riots, the head of police was a tamil person. All the DGPs were tamil. But the police did nothing to stop the riots. Why? "

 

[notsuperstitious]

India can make noise whatever it can but the fact is after India's failed foreign policy to support Tamil nationalism is a legacy of failed foreign policy.India is really in a back foot in international arena to expect any postie support from Sri Lanka if India raise this issue. We condemn the brutalities that has happened in Sri Lanka( In case this is justified) but again if brutality and human right violation is not a relative concept. If we condemn brutalities in Sri Lanka then all Indian should also condemn Indian Army role in Kashmir also...I know this is a very very sensitive topic to correlate with each other...but the fact is we can not condemn one thing at one perspective and then justify the same in other perspective. We have to be consistent. Ifany one is condemning Sri Lanka Army then we should be patiently listen and absorb all the remarks made by Non India friends regarding Kashmir other human right violation happening in our country too....

Now the choice is yours ..You decide...
If you ask me...then i would tell that initiating the Tamil cause is the biggest foreign policy blunder that Congress has made at any point of time...and hence I feel rather than putting responsibility squarely on SL Army Congress Party should look back its dirty foreign policy decisions that has created such a mess.
Even India Gov should also share the blame for the entire mess rather than squarely blaming SL Gov for supporting this separatist movement.

I condemn the human right violation but at the end of the day...This is an exclusive internal affair of Srilanka....

India has accepted there have been excesses by armed forces in Kashmir and disciplined hundreds of soldiers. Indians do not support excesses against Indians by our armed forces. Please see the difference. We also do not want Pakistani civilians murdered because 42% of them support LET , even though some of those terrorist supporters seem to be happy at the murder of Tamils just because they are majority Hindu.

Yes it is an exclusive internal affair of Sri Lanka. But Sri Lanka needs to treat their Tamils as full citizens as it has implications for India too. We are supposed to be concerned for Palestinians but NOT for Tamils in SL that affects peace in India?

No doubt India's policy with LTTE was wrong, but India has honestly tried to fix that error, no point dwelling on it and misiing the real issue that created LTTE in the first place.

 

[fallstuff]

Is the following true ?


"At the time of 1983 riots, the head of police was a tamil person. All the DGPs were tamil. But the police did nothing to stop the riots. Why? "

The answer is in the following clip. At 5:26 he says all the police high officials were Tamils, At 6:36 he says ethnic Sinhalese were cleansed out of North Sri Lanka prior to 1983 followed by the muslims. Certainly worth a look.

 

[SpArK]

After documentary on Lanka 'war crimes', UK calls for probe​

Colombo: The British government said on Wednesday it is shocked by a documentary that purportedly shows Sri Lankan troops committing war crimes, and warned that it will back international action unless the island nation shows progress with an investigation this year.


Foreign Office Minister Alistair Burt said he was "shocked by the horrific scenes" in the documentary aired by Britain's Channel 4 television late Tuesday.

"Since the end of the conflict, the U.K. has called for an independent, thorough and credible investigation of the allegations that war crimes were committed during the hostilities, and the U.K. government expects to see progress by the end of the year," Burt said in a statement.

"If the Sri Lankan government does not respond we will support the international community in revisiting all options available to press the Sri Lankan government to fulfill its obligations," he said.

The documentary appears to show civilian deaths and prisoner executions in the last stages of the country's civil war, which ended in May 2009.

It shows screaming civilians running for cover during a shelling attack, and dead men, women and children lying on a road and inside makeshift hospitals that came under attack.

It also shows three people who appear to be young female rebel fighters sitting on the ground blindfolded with their hands tied behind them. A man gives instructions and another man who appears to be a soldier shoots at their heads, and they slump down.

Channel 4 said the video was obtained from ethnic Tamil civilians and Sri Lankan soldiers, and last month a U.N. expert said it showed "definitive war crimes."

Sri Lanka's government says the video is fake.

"As far as the Channel 4 video clip is concerned, at the very outset we had experts brought in and in accordance with their analysis the authenticity of the footage was in serious doubt," Media Minister Keheliya Rambukwella told The Associated Press.

"This kind of manipulation will not be taken lightly," he said, without explaining what action the government would take.

He also criticized Britain's "unilateral" decision to set a time frame in asking Sri Lanka to show progress in its investigation.

Sri Lanka's embassy in London said the film "has the potential to incite hatred amongst different communities in Sri Lanka, including future generations, and thereby, adversely affect the ongoing national reconciliation process."

In a statement, it called the allegations regarding army conduct "malicious," but said if they are proven to be true the government-appointed Lessons Learnt and Reconciliation Commission would take legal action.

A U.N. experts panel reported in April that there are credible reports that both the government and Tamil Tiger rebels committed serious human rights violations -- including possible war crimes and crimes against humanity -- in the last months of the decades-long war. It said tens of thousands of civilians may have been killed, and called for an independent international investigation.

U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon has said he can initiate an investigation only with the approval of the U.N. General Assembly, Security Council or Human Rights Council.

Sri Lanka counts on the support of Russia and China to extricate itself from any possible international action.

China was among Sri Lanka's allies that defeated a resolution in the U.N. Human Rights Council in 2009 within days after the end of the civil war, calling for an investigation into alleged atrocities committed during the conflict. The countries also pushed through a resolution praising Sri Lanka for defeating the Tamil Tiger rebels.


Read more at: After documentary on Lanka 'war crimes', UK calls for probe

 

[Lankan Ranger]

Sri Lanka already rejected the video, anyway already our president in Russia to attend a economic summit. Chinese president also attending.

 

[Lankan Ranger]

our president will meet president's of Russia and China. This week.

 

[SpArK]

our president will meet president's of Russia and China. This week.

You have already said that.

Now dont post pics of president handshaking and all.

Thanks

 

[IBRIS]

anyway already our president in Russia to attend a economic summit. Chinese president also attending.

So how is that relevant to this matter of crimes against Tamils by SL Army... ????